Bullying - Discussion

[Bambi]

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<) )╯ Bullying isn't acceptable, end of story.
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I agree.

I disagree with the statement that bullies go away when your an adult. Unfortunately I have encountered bullies even as an adult. Guess what? It still hurts. No matter how much you say "I don't give a **** what people think, it can still hurt. I still have remaining social anxieties. So telling people to man the **** up and not be such babies can be easier said than done. By calling people who are affected by bullying "babies" is a form of bullying. IMO.

I think people who are bullied deserve more support than that. Some people have been bullied so badly that they don't have the emotional strength to "man the **** up." They need counselling and guidance to overcome the damage caused.

I'm so shocked at some of the things said in this thread.

 

[kcrojas777]

Ok I don't think I've told anyone but my best friend before, but I don't see why I shouldn't share my thoughts.

I loved Primary School, yes, I was the awkward one at the back of the classroom that never said anything to anyone, and yes, I only really had one friend. But no one really cared, we were just a bunch of kids.

Secondary School on the other hand, is like, the worst nightmare I could possibly imagine. I get called a c*ink, a n***er and loads of horrible racist words. I can't figure out if its because I AM Japanese, or if they just find me as an easy target. They push me around all the time punch me in the arm and stomach, shove me into lockers blah blah blah. I just can't tell anyone though, I'm too shy, plus my tutor hates everyone in the class so he won't care. I once was crying in class and he was trying not to laugh like everyone else, I saw him. I can't tell the principal because he is never in, and when he is in he is way too busy, and when you knock on his door he says "Whoever it is, please come back at Lunch" and when I go back at lunch he says "Whoever it is come see me at the end of the day" and you can guess what happens then. I just can't pluck up the courage to tell my mum and dad because I would hate to see them worry, I know if I tell my mum she will cry straight away because the same thing happened to her. I won't bring back those memories for her, I just can't see her like that again. I don't live with my dad anymore, he moved to Japan after my parents split up so I can't tell him either.
The only person who knows is my best friend. She wants me to tell a teacher or some sort of adult, but I say no. If I don't give them a reaction and just walk away, they won't do it anymore. Because all they want is a reaction, to see people suffer. Its pure evil.

That is just terrible. I think for everyone in this post, if still experiencing this, keep your chin high. Don't let it bring you down, stay strong. A lot of the times yes they do it for attention but not always. My advice is to do your best to control the situation. I think everyone has expereienced some level of bullying at some point in their lives. The severity levels, and time periods vary person to person. Stay strong and don't let jerks bring you down, because in all reality, you will be the prosperous one in the end. Not them.

 

[Nicole.]

For those who know Jessie J (Famous Singer) she apparently used to get bullied as a kid, and look where she is now!

 

[KirbyHugger8D]

I've never been bullied in my life, then again I'm pretty young (just finished my 7th grade year). So I got to and went to a Catholic school and a lot of Catholic schools in my area end at the 6th grade because the only Catholic high school in my area has a 7th and 8th grade as well. The school is very small, so you talk to almost everyone every day. I guess I'm popular and I try to be nice to everyone, but bulling brings out a whole nother side of me! I just can't stand it!

For example there's this jerk in my class who thinks he's the best at everything when he's not! Our Theater class had to put on a play that was made up of short plays. Anyways this jerk was my director for one of the plays and he was bulling this girl during practice. He kept telling her that he couldn't act, she needed to try harder, she was going to ruin the play, and that it was her fault the skit want perfect. So I basically started yelling at him. I told him that it was his fault the skit was terrible because he never showed up to practice, she didn't know what to do because he was an awful director, and so on. I made him cry.... I don't feel bad at all though! He's a jerk to everyone and needed to get a taste if his own medicine. He stopped being mean to people after that or at least when I was around.

There's this girl in my class that doesn't really have any friends. I try to talk to her, but she doesn't really respond and I end up having a conversation with myself. People make fun of her behind her back all the time because she's socially awkward. I admit I did it once too, but never again! I felt awful and tried so hard to make people stop talking about her. She's so nice and I think she considers my two best friends and me to be her best friends! I drew the line when two girls told me they wrote on her locker and said "I have a really big crush on you!" She went home looking so happy because she thought a boy like her and maybe a boy does like her, but those two girls did that as a mean prank! After that I made my best friends sign a petition saying they wouldn't say anything mean about her or make fun of her and other people too. One of my "friends" (she's a total brat) is so mean to people! She called a boy fat to his face. I don't really want to be around her anymore, but the only reason she started hanging out with us was because this even bigger brat bullied her so I don't wanna leave her. Anyways so makes fun of that poor girl all the time and just doesn't stop. Next time I'm going to confront her about it and ask her to stop. Also when we come back from summer I'm really going to try to be a good friend to the girl that's being made fun of. It would be terrible if she grew up depressed and suicidle

 

[Smokey]

I myself have bullied, been bullied.
Serious physical bullying is the only one I'm really opposed to. If someone is beating you up really badly then of course you should do something about it, like tell an adult, or do nothing if nobody cares. Sucks and I feel bad for people who are in that situation.

Most other forms of bullying, however, are a complete joke, especially verbal bullying, at least to me. Yeah yeah sticks and stones and all the BS, but you're really going to be offended when someone calls you a name? That's the weakest form of bullying and if you're too much of a victim to call them a name back, then sucks for you, deal with your constant harassment.
It also seems like people can't tell when someone is just playing with you. I know when I call people names I don't seriously mean it. Really I'm expecting then to call me some petty name back, and we can have a little stupid-off; who ever comes up with the most stupid retort wins. Who the hell calls someone a nerd or dumb unironically aside from young children trying to be hardcore?

 

[Byngo]

I myself have bullied, been bullied.
Serious physical bullying is the only one I'm really opposed to. If someone is beating you up really badly then of course you should do something about it, like tell an adult, or do nothing if nobody cares. Sucks and I feel bad for people who are in that situation.

Most other forms of bullying, however, are a complete joke, especially verbal bullying, at least to me. Yeah yeah sticks and stones and all the BS, but you're really going to be offended when someone calls you a name? That's the weakest form of bullying and if you're too much of a victim to call them a name back, then sucks for you, deal with your constant harassment.
It also seems like people can't tell when someone is just playing with you. I know when I call people names I don't seriously mean it. Really I'm expecting then to call me some petty name back, and we can have a little stupid-off; who ever comes up with the most stupid retort wins. Who the hell calls someone a nerd or dumb unironically aside from young children trying to be hardcore?

Other forms of bullying are not jokes, sometimes mental abuse can be more debillitating rather than physical. There can be much more to verbal abuse than just name calling. I mean, I've heard some nasty things from people who bully that are far worse than petty name-calling.

I actually agree with your opinion that name-calling isn't bullying, but when some utterly disgusting things are spewed out, verbal abuse is most certainly bad. (Duh, it's what causes Depression in many people.) Is that not serious enough?

 

[Smokey]

There can be much more to verbal abuse than just name calling. I mean, I've heard some nasty things from people who bully that are far worse than petty name-calling.

Do you mean like death threats? Give some examples please.

 

[Byngo]

Death threats, and hateful, cuss filled comments constantly. Is that not enough? I'm not providing examples because I don't like to use those words that examples I know of have.

Like I stated in this thread a couple pages back, I have a friend who has depression. Want to know where she got the depression from? Harassment, hateful comments constantly. So yes, verbal bullying is just as bad. End of discussion.

 

[Goran]

When I was a younger child I was briefly bullied by another student in my class who seemed to have grown up in a family racist against Asians. He would curse at me, make fun of the fact that I'm Asian, push my lunch try off the table on rare occasions, and throw small things at me on the playground.

The teachers were completely unhelpful as they refused to believe my friends or I at all unless they see it happening with their own eyes. But luckily for me I had friends who stood up for me and he quickly became someone no one wanted to be friends or play with because of what kind of person he was. Eventually he just stopped.

Though it wasn't as bad for me, it is something that people shouldn't have to go through, I have gotten into a number of arguments and near physical fights with bullies trying to defend the victim in middle and high school, which is dangerous. There is no line between what kind of bullying is okay and not, it just should not happen. And if you are one of those people who does not take bullying seriously, you need to take a good hard look at yourself.

PS. That last comment wasn't aimed at anyone in general.

 

[SecondSider]

I've been bullied online, and it's for sharing on opinion with movie fans. I mean, in 1991, people complained after Dances With Wolves won Best Picture over GoodFellas. I loved both, but I think that GoodFellas is the better one. Today, there are lots of Dances With Wolves fans, and they've been growing insane after the whole debate about GoodFellas. After someone shares their opinion, shouldn't they be appreciated about it?

 

[oath2order]

I do have a problem with online bullying. Why is it that these people in the news who commit suicide after they get bullied online never block the people? Pretty much all social network sites have a block feature.

 

[Smokey]

I do have a problem with online bullying. Why is it that these people in the news who commit suicide after they get bullied online never block the people? Pretty much all social network sites have a block feature.

I'm guessing the news is skimping out on details and blowing the wrong thing out of proportion. Maybe those people were going through a really bad time and just couldn't find even a little bit of peace. Usually people aren't thinking very rationally when they're committing suicide, just a small push and they fall off the cliff.

 

[Lampokos]

Why is it that these people in the news who commit suicide after they get bullied online never block the people? Pretty much all social network sites have a block feature.

I know right?
Why does the media think it's so serious?

 

[Diableos]

I do have a problem with online bullying. Why is it that these people in the news who commit suicide after they get bullied online never block the people? Pretty much all social network sites have a block feature.

While I do agree with what you say, several friends of mine used to be constantly harassed even after blocking bullies. They would receive friend requests on everything they used, and it was very often the same small group of people trying to get to them. Some of these friends of mine I knew IRL, and others were just online friends. One of them ended up not coming online at all for almost a year because they were so upset and fed up with it. Luckily they came back, but online bullying can still be quite atrocious. However, I do still feel as though the people that are bullied online can easily escape it by blocking them, but of course there's still the possibility that they will be harassed continuously.

I myself used to be bullied every single day in high school, and I was bullied in sixth form too. I managed to pull through it in high school, but a lot of my bullies continued to harass me online too. While I could somewhat get away from it online, I would just see them again each day in school. I only shared half of my classes with them in high school, so I at least didn't have to deal with it all day long, but if I saw them in the corridors or during lunch, they'd shout things at me anyway. When I went to sixth form I unfortunately ended up sharing every single class with some bullies, so I couldn't get away from it at all. I ended up leaving because I just couldn't concentrate on my work and hated every minute of it. I do regret leaving sixth form and I will hopefully be attending a different one this September, but it turned me into such a mess for so long. I did try telling my teachers in both high school and sixth form, but they either never helped, or it just made it worse for me. I wasn't really sure how to escape it, so that's why I ended up leaving sixth form.

Gosh, I was even bullied in primary school too. I must've been bullied for at least 10 years of my life, probably 11 or 12 actually. The bullying wasn't always horrendous, as sometimes it was just silly name-calling, but it could easily go from that to being shoved around, punched, and having my things broken and stolen. But I suppose that's what I get for not being very fit and not being fond of sports, right? I would say I'm surprised I never seriously hurt myself, but my self-esteem, confidence, and my own view of myself took the brunt of it all. I can't stand bullying at all, I really can't, and that's to be expected from all the bullying I've been through, but it really does just disgust me. I hear that a lot of people bully others because they themselves are bullied, because they're jealous of the victim, to become popular, or for any other reason. All of those are ridiculous. It just shouldn't happen at all, but it does all of them. I know I'm going to be bullied again if I go back to sixth form or go to a college, and I know I'll probably be bullied if I get a job in the future too. Even if I crack down on why I was bullied and improve myself, I'm sure people will find something to bully me about.

 

[Bambi]

I do have a problem with online bullying. Why is it that these people in the news who commit suicide after they get bullied online never block the people? Pretty much all social network sites have a block feature.

I have heard of people creating fake accounts pretending to be someone else, being nice to the victim and tricking them into thinking they are a friend only to crush them later.

People are sick and a block button doesn't always help.

 

[ben_nyc]

bullying for me became really prominent when I moved to the US in 5th grade. I didn't know how american public schools were like and didn't know a lot of details about american culture so I was made fun of for making simple mistakes. I remember that I was in PE class and I didn't know how to play baseball so I sat on the field because I was confused, and everyone laughed. and also for lunch, we all sit as a class but I accidentally sat in a different class's table and was laughed at...

Sorry this had to happen. Moving to another country is a tough transition.

Shutup nerd.

No, but I really wonder what sort of discussion the guy posting this thought he'd prompt. One can safely assume that posting this on a video game message board will invariably get replies from people saying, "Yes, I've been bullied. My opinion is that it's not good."

Wow, jerk alert.

Bullying is healthy, because it forces you to grow up, and stop caring about all the bad stuff that happens. It makes you stronger in the long run, and people shouldn't try to stop it.

Lampokos, bullying isn't an accepted means of therapy/evolution for ANY modern, civil, social condition. It's a social DISEASE. There are cases where those bullied have in turn, BECOME one themselves or... lost their lives for it. A defense lawyer, a sociologist, will NEVER adapt to your line of thinking. What will you say to the parents & siblings of the victim?

Stronger laws needs to be put in effect; bullying = abuse/harassment. Unacceptable.

 

[Byngo]

Lampokos, bullying isn't an accepted means of therapy/evolution for ANY modern, civil, social condition. It's a social DISEASE. There are cases where those bullied have in turn, BECOME one themselves or... lost their lives for it. A defense lawyer, a sociologist, will NEVER adapt to your line of thinking. What will you say to the parents & siblings of the victim?

Stronger laws needs to be put in effect; bullying = abuse/harassment. Unacceptable.

I agree completely. It is barbaric to think that bullying is healthy, in any sense of the word. To put into perspective, just putting the words 'bullying' and 'healthy' together is utterly idiotic.

 

[Treasu(red)]

Learning to hear some of the worst insults thrown at you, about you, about things you really care about, things that crawl under your skin and eat at you... then learning how to step back, ask "Is what they said really true about me?" and answer the question. "No, that's not me." then congratulations, you've learned to ignore what other people say and love yourself. "Yes, that IS me." then congratulations, you've reaffirmed that's a true part of who you are, now love that part of yourself too. The End.

Physical bullying or destruction of property isn't okay though and actually is doing society a favor if you can get the bullies behavior corrected.

Also ignore someone who's throwing insults at you long enough and they'll get bored and leave. You're 'no fun' if they don't get a reaction.

Everybody gets bulled. EVERYBODY. I got bullied about my socks one day. It hurt but I just ignored that person and eventually they ignored me.

 

[tigereyes86]

I know I'm going to be bullied again if I go back to sixth form or go to a college, and I know I'll probably be bullied if I get a job in the future too. Even if I crack down on why I was bullied and improve myself, I'm sure people will find something to bully me about.

This is truly awful . You've had to go through this and now assume you'll be bullied everywhere. This is what it does to people and this is why it's so bad. I'm so sorry. I know that doesn't make it better and that it's not my fault, but I can't help say it.

Let me tell you that the real world is not the same. I got a job after school and instatntly noticed the difference. People are nice, mostly treat you with respect (this depends on your boss and there are a rare few that are nasty, not going to lie) and as a result, you grow as a person. Choose where you apply, avoid the kinds of places that younger people work as this wouldn't be a good move for you. Try to get into a place where the workforce are more mature (mid to late twenties even) and you'll learn from them, they'll be happy to teach you etc. Good luck.

What you will also find is that because you weren't the one pushing people round and used to getting your own way, you do far better in the workplace than those who did. In ten years time I guarantee you'll be miles ahead of those bullies who made your life hell and who'll be laughing then? You (and me because you'll deserve it).

Cheesy but true-I've been there, done that, seen it.

 

[Lampokos]

Lampokos, bullying isn't an accepted means of therapy/evolution for ANY modern, civil, social condition. It's a social DISEASE. There are cases where those bullied have in turn, BECOME one themselves or... lost their lives for it. A defense lawyer, a sociologist, will NEVER adapt to your line of thinking. What will you say to the parents & siblings of the victim?

Stronger laws needs to be put in effect; bullying = abuse/harassment. Unacceptable.

First of all, let me point something out in your argument.
Suicide is for giant cowards.
Ending your own life because of a petty problem is cowardly.
There are people with much bigger problems than you out there, and most of them, well, probably aren't killing themselves.
There are some homeless people out there that struggle to get food, and they don't kill themselves.
But you do? Because of some mean words, or a punch or two? Or public humiliation?
I've been bullied before. It's absolutely not a big deal.

Bullying builds character, and helps you deal with real, legitimate criticism in the real world. Bullying is healthy.

I agree completely. It is barbaric to think that bullying is healthy, in any sense of the word. To put into perspective, just putting the words 'bullying' and 'healthy' together is utterly idiotic.

First of all, it's not barbaric.
Here's the definition of barbaric:
Adjective
1. Savagely cruel; exceedingly brutal.
2. Primitive; unsophisticated.

Neither of those definitions apply to what I said.
Stating that bullying is healthy is not savagely cruel, or exceedingly brutal, because in my view, it has positive effects.
It's not brutal, because I don't have any brutal intention behind it, and there is none that exists there.
It's also not unsophisticated.
Here is the definition of sophisticated:
Adjective
1. (of a machine, system, or technique) Developed to a high degree of complexity.
2. (of a person or their thoughts, reactions, and understanding) Aware of and able to interpret complex issues; subtle.

Calling me unsophisticated because of what I state is ridiculous, because I am both aware of, and able to interpret complex issues.
I wouldn't be posting in this thread if I wasn't able to interpret the issue, because I wouldn't have deemed it worth my time to argue my point.

Second of all, it's not idiotic,
If you look at my statement above, it should tell you why.