Astral Projection

um i hope your heart doesn't do that when you sleep because you would probably die

Haha well because mediation puts you into a deep slumber like state, it does cause the heart to slow because you are relaxing everything in your body including your mind, but it does not come close to you actually being dead. Your brain is constantly working and keeps track of everything still working including your breathing so it will keep you alive. It will not allow the heart rate to go slow enough to kill you.

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I have never really have had an OBE myself, but I have had plenty of lucid dreams. My friend claims he himself had an OBE once while sleeping but he couldn't really move because of his "cord" not letting him go. A lot of people are usually afraid in the beginning, which is quite common since fear runs thoroughly for the unknown. My guess is that he may have had some fears of leaving, which were stopping him to possibly proceed.
 
I have a few friends who have been able to do it but I would not trust myself to at all. I am scared enough of trying to do sleep paralysis because I see scary enough stuff while I am fully conscious. I think it would be a cool experience but not something that I would like to take part in.
 
Oh, don't worry! You share the planes with other creatures, some human.

What sort of creatures? :\ Are they like animals, or some sort of spiritual creature? I dunno, I was totally up for astral projection, but the thought of having to see other beings whilst I'm in that state would freak me out, lol. :') It does seem really cool, though.

But what I'm curious about is how do you know what you are seeing is actually true? Like, it could just be your imagination playing tricks on you, and creating and constructing a world that you are familiar with. But how do you know if you decide to go somewhere else, that it's not just your mind making this stuff up? I guess unless you ask someone or go check when you're awake... I dunno, it's really really cool, and I definitely do believe in spirits and stuff, but it just sounds kind of... Unbelievable, to me. But really interesting. And I would like to try it, to see it for myself! Someone should go take a camera with them and film it. :x If only that were possible...
 
But what I'm curious about is how do you know what you are seeing is actually true? Like, it could just be your imagination playing tricks on you, and creating and constructing a world that you are familiar with. But how do you know if you decide to go somewhere else, that it's not just your mind making this stuff up? I guess unless you ask someone or go check when you're awake... I dunno, it's really really cool, and I definitely do believe in spirits and stuff, but it just sounds kind of... Unbelievable, to me. But really interesting. And I would like to try it, to see it for myself! Someone should go take a camera with them and film it. :x If only that were possible...

this is what i'm inclined to believe - i'm guessing it's a sort of lucid dreaming thing.
However, I have had some interesting chats with patients who claim to have had an OBE during near death experiences, like when in cardiac arrest, and them looking down on the bed while the doctors do CPR.
 
What sort of creatures? :\ Are they like animals, or some sort of spiritual creature? I dunno, I was totally up for astral projection, but the thought of having to see other beings whilst I'm in that state would freak me out, lol. :') It does seem really cool, though.

But what I'm curious about is how do you know what you are seeing is actually true? Like, it could just be your imagination playing tricks on you, and creating and constructing a world that you are familiar with. But how do you know if you decide to go somewhere else, that it's not just your mind making this stuff up? I guess unless you ask someone or go check when you're awake... I dunno, it's really really cool, and I definitely do believe in spirits and stuff, but it just sounds kind of... Unbelievable, to me. But really interesting. And I would like to try it, to see it for myself! Someone should go take a camera with them and film it. :x If only that were possible...

The creatures there range from the ones we're familiar with here and, well, ones we're not. They are not threatening, however, so there is nothing to worry about. Even if they were, your silver cord can't be severed, meaning you can't die.

Well, there is still speculation on whether or not the astral world is a simulation of the mind, or in fact another reality. Nobody knows yet, but I myself believe it's a reality. If it were just a dream, you wouldn't be able to touch, feel and smell things in such a realistic way. Also, nobody would be experiencing the same basic thing.

About your mind constructing things, there is a specific plane you can do this on. This plane allows you to literally invent things with your mind, though they are strictly a fantasy. Any entities you encounter on this plane are things you've constructed and their behaviour is determined by how you would imagine them to be like.

A good example would be meeting celebrities in the astral world. Though this is possible with some effort, you're more likely just to create them and mistake them for being real. There are a lot of stories about people meeting religious characters there, and I think a good explanation for that would be them creating what they have been expecting to see when they got there. So, if you wanted to see the world of Animal Crossing, you could fantasise in the astral world.

It's hard to determine which plane you're on, but where you are determines where you want to be, and you could have a friend confirm aspects of their room later to you, should you choose to experiment and try to find something only they would know was there.

The reason I believe in it is because of how much sense it makes when you compare it to the paranormal happenings we knew about before the astral world became a thing. You become a spirit (or ghost) when you enter this world, and with enough energy, you can reveal yourself or manipulate small objects, which is what spirits are commonly associated with being capable of.

The technology there is very modern, apparently. Houses and cities still exist, and I remember a story where a human offered an astral projector a drink of water. I'm not too sure about things like computers, the Internet or video games, but I do know that music still exists, so that's something.
 
I am definetly going to do some more research on this, thank you for mentioning this.

It sounds interesting to me, because through my work and in my social life I`ve talked to some people with near-death experiences, who described something somewhat similar to how you describe this other dimension.

One person particularly said after awakening from a coma, he was on like a higher platform with other spirits, whom he was able to communicate with. He felt it was like a "waiting room" of sorts for souls. He saw it like they were waiting to be send down back to earth again, but who knows? Its really quite a distinctive description he gave and the vision it gave me matches what you described in your last post here quite well.

Furthermore it kind of fits what I already felt was the most likely scenario when it comes to the process you enter after dying. I always believed in some form of reincarnation of the soul, meaning it lives on and builds experience, explaining while to some other souls you feel more attracted or "pulled towards" as to others. I see it as a sign your souls have met/intertwined before.

Very interesting this if you ask me, when I have more time I`ll read up on it properly.
 
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I've always had an interest in trying this and Lucid Dreaming out, but it requires patience which is, well, something I don't have, unfortunately
 
I have been attempting AP for the past 14 months or so. I personally have got to a stage where my body will vibrate from the inside, and I will start seeing 'dual-vision'. You start to hear your ear's ringing really loud and high pitched. The reason I can not successfully AP, as far as I know, is because I always get excited, scared, or lose focus too soon, so my breathing changes and I snap out of it.

I will keep trying until I do, so hopefully before I'm 40 ;).

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Some of my personal resources for AP.
Erin Pavlina's Astral Projection Guidebook
Astral Projection for Beginners: Six Techniques for Traveling to Other Realms
Erin Pavlina's Blog has also helped me a bit.

And of course YouTube! Just searching YouTube for 'astral projection experiences' and stuff.
 
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RhinoK;4815443[B said:
]I've always had an interest in trying this and Lucid Dreaming ou[/B]t, but it requires patience which is, well, something I don't have, unfortunately

Actually, the easiest way to learn how to dream lucidly is by teaching yourself to remember your dreams first. Once you do that and open your mind to all the possibilities out there, it's merely a matter of time until you can learn to dream lucidly and to astral project yourself.
 
//refuses to let this thread die//

If anyone has any questions on AP I may not be the most knowledgeable person but I might be able to help so ask away~
 
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