Are you a feminist?

[Mints]

I don't get these type of comments
"How could you not be a feminist" I don't understand???

A feminist is someone who supports equality for ALL races, genders, sexualities, etc. Not just for a woman's rights (which is what it is often mistaken for)

 

[Llust]

Have you ever been discriminated due to your gender? Been passed over for a promotion? Been paid less than a man? Been excluded from a group or club? Been harassed due to being female but are then told 'that's just how things are?'

Knowing your gender was really interesting because, normally, when someone says they don't care about problems like this it's because they aren't being effected. But, whether you like it or not, you will almost certainly have one of the things I listed above happen to you at least once in your life.

i'd have to answer no for all of your questions. most if not all of those things have happened to me, but i don't mind. it's just how society is and i honestly couldn't care less about trying to change it. overall, i think it's great that people are recognizing equality/lgbta+, but most people i know take it a bit too far and i find it rather annoying. for example, there's debate i've been seeing among feminists at school and my co workers. according to them, it isn't fair that women aren't supposed to show their nipples, but men are. they're saying it's unfair that we can't expose our nipples, but i find this discussion really stupid considering that's just the norm of society and it's like that for a reason. then again, i don't know much about feminism considering i never got myself involved, so it's not my place to judge.

 

[seliph]

A feminist is someone who supports equality for ALL races, genders, sexualities, etc. Not just for a woman's rights (which is what it is often mistaken for)

Idk if you're referring to using the title or having the same ideals but the issues within feminism that everyone has pointed out make a very good reason as to why many people don't want to call themselves a feminist.

but i find this discussion really stupid considering that's just the norm of society and it's like that for a reason

It's there because of degrading sexualization against women lol not everything has a great reason behind it.

 

[marinamarina]

Idk if you're referring to using the title or having the same ideals but the issues within feminism that everyone has pointed out make a very good reason as to why many people don't want to call themselves a feminist.



It's there because of degrading sexualization against women lol not everything has a great reason behind it.

Yeah seriously, is there that good of a reason for considering a body part inappropriate thats purpose is literally FEEDING BABIES (cant get more vulgar than that!)

 

[meowlerrz]

i'd have to answer no for all of your questions. most if not all of those things have happened to me, but i don't mind. it's just how society is and i honestly couldn't care less about trying to change it.

You may not mind those things happening to you but what about an innocent little girl experiencing those things, or how about we stray from feminism just affecting girls and focus on boys being taught that they have to be manly or assertive, otherwise they're not a real man. Boys are criticized for getting the least bit emotional and they're taught that being called a girl is the worst insult. Are you saying that you're perfectly fine with a little girl, lets say 5 years old(too young to be sexualized by anyone) getting sent home for wearing a dress because too much of her shoulders are showing. All because this is how society is and we just need to accept it?

 

[seliph]

Yeah seriously, is there that good of a reason for considering a body part inappropriate thats purpose is literally FEEDING BABIES (cant get more vulgar than that!)

Yeah I don't see how women being thrown out of malls and coffee shops for feeding their baby is an "acceptable societal norm", especially considering the baby is usually under a wrap or a poncho.

Straight dudes are so obsessed with **** but when they're actually being used for a good purpose they yell and ask for a manager like please what do yall want!

 

[marinamarina]

Yeah I don't see how women being thrown out of malls and coffee shops for feeding their baby is an "acceptable societal norm", especially considering the baby is usually under a wrap or a poncho.

Straight dudes are so obsessed with **** but when they're actually being used for a good purpose they yell and ask for a manager like please what do yall want!

I love America cause women can't get maternity leave, but then they can't pump milk or breastfeed in a lot of places. Also some people def act like boobs exist purely for aesthetics ugh.

 

[Llust]

You may not mind those things happening to you but what about an innocent little girl experiencing those things, or how about we stray from feminism just affecting girls and focus on boys being taught that they have to be manly or assertive, otherwise they're not a real man. Boys are criticized for getting the least bit emotional and they're taught that being called a girl is the worst insult. Are you saying that you're perfectly fine with a little girl, lets say 5 years old(too young to be sexualized by anyone) getting sent home for wearing a dress because too much of her shoulders are showing. All because this is how society is and we just need to accept it?

so i'm getting bashed on simply for expressing an opinion of mine that opposes everyone elses? i respect your opinions, but you're missing my point. i dont care if those things happen to me personally, but that doesn't mean i don't have sympathy for those who do. that being societys norm is just how i see it, i'm not stopping anyone from taking action to change it and i have more important things to worry about. as for the breasts, when did i say it was wrong for women to breast feed in public? i don't have anything against that

 

[seliph]

so i'm getting bashed on simply for expressing an opinion of mine that opposes everyone elses? i respect your opinions, but you're missing my point. i dont care if those things happen to me personally, but that doesn't mean i don't have sympathy for those who do. that being societys norm is just how i see it, i'm not stopping anyone from taking action to change it and i have more important things to worry about. as for the breasts, when did i say it was wrong for women to breast feed in public? i don't have anything against that

Disagreeing and bashing are not synonymous.

Regarding the nipple thing again, we're saying womens' nipples actually serve a purpose and therefore it makes zero sense for those to be unacceptable in public when mens' are.

 

[meowlerrz]

so i'm getting bashed on simply for expressing an opinion of mine that opposes everyone elses? i respect your opinions, but you're missing my point. i dont care if those things happen to me personally, but that doesn't mean i don't have sympathy for those who do. that being societys norm is just how i see it, i'm not stopping anyone from taking action to change it and i have more important things to worry about. as for the breasts, when did i say it was wrong for women to breast feed in public? i don't have anything against that

No one's bashing you I'm just trying to see where exactly it is you're coming from. That's why I asked if that was what you were saying. I don't mind people's choices not to get involved in acts and whatnot. I mean I'm not out there protesting and stuff obviously we have things to do with our lives. But saying you're a feminist has no commitment to it, it's just an idea that you someone can choose to agree to or not. You're a feminist if you agree that there should be equality, that's all. No one's asking people to wear feminist T-shirts everywhere or shout it to the sky in a crowded area. You don't have to worry about anything that's going on but when someone asks you if you're a feminist I believe all they want to know is a yes or no answer to the definition of feminism.

 

[Fantasyrick]

Wow y'all are just shoving this down people's throats pls stop before you make someone choke.

 

[seliph]

Wow y'all are just shoving this down people's throats pls stop before you make someone choke.

This just in: Presenting someone with an opposing opinion and new information is "shoving it down people's throats". More at 11.

 

[marinamarina]

This just in: Presenting someone with an opposing opinion and new information is "shoving it down people's throats". More at 11.

For real, why can't people have a discussion without ppl shutting down?

 

[seliph]

For real, why can't people have a discussion without ppl shutting down?

I won't lie I admittedly act or sometimes even become irrationally vicious when I shouldn't at times, but I don't see anyone including myself getting upset or being pushy at all in this thread. It's just people agreeing, disagreeing, and discussing, and somehow threads like this always draw the "yikes keep it civil" and "this thread is gonna get closed"-esque comments.

 

[Shina]

Let's keep it civil here hahahaah.
a mod is viewing this thread as we speak

 

[seliph]

Let's keep it civil here hahahaah.
a mod is viewing this thread as we speak

You stop that or it's bout ta be a civil war m8 meet me behind the Caf? in 10

 

[Shina]

You stop that or it's bout ta be a civil war m8 meet me behind the Caf? in 10

but my bed time is 9...

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jk adults don't have bedtimes

 

[Oblivia]

As with all threads containing more sensitive topics, I don't mind leaving them open so long as people can keep things civil and refrain from hurling personal attacks or insulting people who hold opposing viewpoints. Just keep it calm and we'll be fine.

Also, keep in mind that posts saying things like "inb4 thread closure" or insulting the thread topic don't serve any purpose whatsoever. If you think a thread should be looked into, report it. Super easy.

 

[Aronthaer]

Short answer: yes.

Long Answer: I prefer "equality" over feminism, as feminism sounds more female-centered and doesn't seem like it's focused on true equality. I also believe that although we should both be treated fairly, there are certain things that should remain the job of men (I firmly believe in the military being for men, if you want me to explain why just ask) and some thing that should remain the job of women. We aren't the same, and we shouldn't be treated exactly the same, but I do believe that women should be treated with honor, not objectified as much as they are today.

 

[vel]

Yes, I'm a feminist. I don't completely understand the term equalist? Society has placed men above women, so when people say to equalize does that mean to bring men down to such level? Men are earning one dollar while women are earning 0.75. In my honest opinion, men do not need to be equalized. They already have rights and power, so it's the women that need to be. Don't get me wrong; I believe the women and men in other less fortunate countries should be equal as well. But in America, where I live, men have more power than any female. Female are seen as objects, and honestly don't earn as much as they should. Men do have problems, yes, but that is not the point. I am also a supporter of #blacklivesmatter. Many people have counter argued this, saying "Black lives need not matter, all lives should matter!" Racism still exists. Most people do not hire or acknowledge people of black skin, so many of them are quite poor and have to work themselves to get by. In this world, if you're poor, you mean nothing to the general public. Sure, some people have kind hearts but that does not make up for the billions of ignorant fools. Again, if you are poor, you are generally less important than someone who is rich. Why do you think rich people are judged so easily in court? All lives do matter, but black lives are the things that we should focus on right now. On the topic of feminism, the whole #freekesha thing is also supporting the equality of women.

I am a feminist. I believe in equal women rights. That does not make men less important, but men certainly do not need the attention women deserve at this moment. I do not want to have my children grow up in this world earning less the harder they work. Being one thing does not mean you cannot support another. I also support black lives, and etc. Honestly, I do not believe you cannot be an equalist and a feminist. However, I enjoy the term feminist much more.