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Are you a feminist?
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There's literally almost no people like that. That's just a strawman that people who don't like 99% of feminists use to make them all look bad.
Sorry, but even the word feminist is sexist. Maybe there should be a different term?
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1. Sometimes words are just words with no implications my guy. Sorry if it was unclear.
2. Sure but as I said, those types of pride are much different. The "pride" that minorities and women feel are actually less of a pride I guess and more of like... a strong, defying, unchanging existence. It's "Yeah I'm here, yeah you hate us, no I'm not going to change for you and you can't make me back down from you". That's why "straight pride", "male pride", and "white pride" aren't things.
3. That makes your "hate crime" claim a load of bull****.
As much as I hate radfems I think comparing them to Nazis is unfair on both ends. In regard to radfems because they never committed mass genocide, and to WWII survivors.
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LOL HOW
Excuse me, but how is that false? I live in one of the most racially diverse cities in America and possibly the world. I think I wold know my own city that I have lived in for 18 years than you would. How many times have you been to Chicago?
Oh no no, I think you misunderstood me, or call is cultural difference or lost in translation. And I will be so prejudiced if I want to ok?
I was merely reacting to the words "no right". As free human beings we have the right to change our mind and not wanting to do a job anymore, or following a guy, or family. If they run away, they have their reasons right? Whatever the reasons. If they stole from you, you can fill a complain to the police, if they didn't respect their contract you can sue them or the agency, if they don't do their job well, you can fire them. So the right to leave also come with consequences.
No really? Doh! It's just what I am saying. They are humans, they have rights, and among them the right to leave unless they are in prison for some crimes.
Regarding maids that kill children, it's the same thing, it was written that there were more maids that kill children..(...) reading this, make me think that it happened more than twice and that finally maids seem, according to what I'm reading here, to have a bad reputation, and it's sure I wouldn't have one to take care of my children.
Here come the prejudiced part (since you think I'm so prejudiced). Why would you need maids for a start? Even more if they are so unreliable, thieves, lazy and babies killers. The way you describe them if like they were the scum of the society or perhaps I didn't read well or misunderstood you. In my place, very little people have maids, and they just hire them for a few hours per week because they work like 70 hours a week and have no time to clean. I don't know anybody who would keep a maid 24h/24h 7 days a week...Maybe Celine Dion, who knows? Not even disabled persons keep them that long. Here come the prejudiced part: do you really need help to take care of yourself and kids? Especially the help of so fickle maids that can't do their job right?
Question: would you do their job?
I agree with you, there are cultural differences. Also I shouldn't have written a reply when I feel angry lololol because some words/sentences came off wrong hiuhiu. Anyway yes, as you said, there are cultural differences. Here in my country at least, our currency is very low and everything is imported from overseas with the exchange rate of 1:4- meaning we have to pay 4 times more the price of what the Americans do when our salary is just about the same. Say, for example my monthly salary is $2,500 but a 3DS console is $1,400 here / a 3DS game is $180. That is more than half of my salary. And this goes for a lot of other home necessities too. Cost of living is cutthroat so both parents have to work; some even 2-3 jobs at a time. This is why people need maids to help them around the house or look after their kids. They are called lived-in maids. Food and accommodation are provided. In my family's case their working hours are like office hours. It's just that they live with us. This was when I was still a little child btw. None of my family members have lived-in maids anymore, not since 15 years ago. But yes, if you've seen any South-East Asian dramas, you'll see a lot of lived-in maids~ I called you prejudiced because you have not experienced what it's like living in these countries and yet you have such a strong opinion about it. What you hear is more often than not different than the real thing. Stories you heard from so and so must not be generalized.
I also agree with you that they have rights. My family have helped a lot of maids who ran away from their abusive employees until they have enough money to go back. Even then, my family usually paid for their fare. I am not at all saying that maids are scum of the earth. I am merely telling you the reasons why some maids chose to run away. You said "why run if the job is good" hence my answer. You can have a high paying job at a prestigious company, but if you're not happy, you'll still quit. However, if you quit without notice, there's a penalty. That is against the law. Yes, of course you can report to the police, but will that get your gold back? No. My point was, maids aren't angels, but they aren't scum either. They're just flawed humans, as are the rest of us. Yes, they can run away. And usually, my parents just let them be. Answer to question: I don't. I have a small house (I have my own house now), I can take care of it on the weekends. If I have kids, I'll quit my job and work from home. Agency fees are ridiculous omg.
In terms of maids with bad rep. In the first place, a 'murderer' maid would have gotten caught right? They would have been blacklisted. They wouldn't even be given a chance to work as a maid anymore. I think that is a no brainer. Anyway, killer maids are rare. I think there are more parents who have killed their own children than maids. I'm just saying that, these parents had no idea they hired a mentally ill person. It's unfortunate really.
Answer: Of course I will if I have no choice. The maids that came to work in our country are from neighbouring countries who are extremely poor. The pay that they earned in my country equals to the pay of what a judge earned in their country. Let that sink in.
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I didn't say the majority of feminists are like that. This kind of feminist does exist, a radical feminist as nvll calls them. I prefer the term feminazi though.
Edit: Here's my stance I posted earlier in the thread:
Sounds like somebody who supports the idea of feminism to me.
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Do people get arrested and thrown in jail for saying "Black people are thugs", "Brown people are terrorists", or "Mexicans are all illegal drug cartels" there? No, especially considering just how racist Chicago's police force is. So where are the people facing "hate crime" charges for offending people? Where?
And I go there every year funny enough.
Racism happens wherever you go and cannot be judged based on one incident with a police officer. Most police officers are told to profile and are also on steroids which is very wrong. Police brutality is a totally different subject. The problem is the people that claim somebody else is racist. I cant tell you how many times I have seen an african american walk into a store and have an issue with something and when a problem cant be resolved they claim that its because the other person is racist. Im about to go to work, if you want to continue this conversation please pm me tonight. I will be back in about 9 hours.
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Or people who do act like that are trolls laughing at the people who take them seriously.
That's a good explanation, but I also think that you misunderstood my first reply or mixed it with the previous poster, because there was not much opinion in what I posted beside debating the use of the words "no right" when the person probably wanted to mean "responsibilities". There was nothing in that post about the country in question.
Focus replied to another poster: so if they're living in a good household, doing regular maid things, being treated right and paid well, they have NO rights to run away from the house. and and you know what? more maids kill children than families kill maids.
I said Well of course they have the right to run away, it's not like if they were slaves right? And why would they run away if the job is good and they have nothing to complain about? Unless they run away with all your furniture and money. Also I don't get why one would need a maid that could murder children O.O, better not hiring them if they have bad reputation.
"why run if the job is good" Right, why? Because they have their reasons, they a not satisfied with something or just wanted to run away with your things.
In fact it was just a post on the used of some words and how it was said. Same here, you can't trust all maids or babysitters (or anybody in fact).
"Of course I will if I have no choice." means in my opinion that it's not the best job in the world but good enough to quit your family for it. Perhaps those who accepted the job first, didn't realize all responsibilities and inconvenients that come with it.
I feel many people just decide that feminism is one sided because of the 'fem'. But the literal definition of feminism is "the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes."
It's called FEMinism because on a general consensus -- women are not seen as equal to men, not the other way around.
BUT, thats all I'm saying on the topic because I'm not going to get into this on an ac forum. ALSO not trying to bash anyone. I know people have their own views etc.
It's called FEMinism because on a general consensus -- women are not seen as equal to men, not the other way around.
BUT, thats all I'm saying on the topic because I'm not going to get into this on an ac forum. ALSO not trying to bash anyone. I know people have their own views etc.
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Yes, but a lot of poor migrants go to Qatar or SA for work since these nations are wealthy. I don't deny you probably have seen maids being treated nice there, but until I stop seeing stories about random maids getting raped by Saudi Arabian diplomats, my opinion of your country is going to be low. It's a shame the highest (the rich) are abusing women and getting away with it, and the fact so your government allows that is sad. I'm not saying Saudi Arabians are bad, but your rulers are very corrupt. I understand you have a feeling of patriotism for your country, but there are definitely problems with social issues in Saudi Arabia and there's no good way to paint executing gays as something "oh, we can't help it.". I would never travel there for my own safety as well, sorry not sorry but I'm not going to like a country that would execute me for being who I am.
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you know why the government doesn't do anything about it? because they're stories. STORIES. no proof, just bullsht. the government doesn't allow rape, if that's what you mean? you can't even see a muslim woman unless you're their Mahram (a cousin, or something close idk how to explain it in english sorry) or your wife, let alone have sex with them. (you can't have sex with anyone but your husband/wife.) please, you've never even been here so please don't act like our rulers and fcking Hitler reincarnations or as bad as Kim Jong Un. i've lived here my WHOLE. ENTIRE. LIFE. i'm preetttyy sure i know what i'm talking about.
as for the gay executions i agree that shouldn't happen but put yourself in my shoes pleeeeaaaaaaassseeeee i can't do anything about it i really truthfully can't. like lets say your white (which i assume you are because of how you talk about SA. let's face it, most whites despise us lol) and i'm treating you like you're the scum of this world because you're not doing anything about KKK or Donald Trump even though you can't help it. pretty shtty right? yeah.
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