So we can't feel high and mighty for being female but male pride is okay? Oh, okay. Got it.
Are you a feminist?
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So we can't feel high and mighty for being female but male pride is okay? Oh, okay. Got it.
When did male pride ever come into context lol?
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You just proved my point. As a feminist you thought I was putting down females. You have become offended and decided to make a shot at making males look bad when in reality, every single thing I have said supports equality.
Hey man, check your privilege okay? Btw I don't call myself feminist. As I've said before, I don't care about labels. I just say things that I believe in period.
Check my privilege? Whats that supposed to mean? I simply posted my opinion and people started questioning my credibility as a person because I don't agree with feminism. I never wanted any drama but apparently people were looking for it.
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Google it and you'll understand where I'm coming from. Hmm maybe I understood wrong but you wrote 'As a feminist, you...'. So I took as it as you calling me a feminist. I understand and I do see some things your way. I apologise if I come off as attacking you. It's just that as a male, you don't understand what its like to be a female and what we face everyday. For me, I don't look for equality because that is not realistic. I am more to being treated fairly. Fairness. We all have different needs and capabilities; nothing in this world is equal. It is impossible for one female to be treated equaly to another female even. But at least treat both with fairness.
I am sorry for any bad feelings Infinity.
I am sorry for any bad feelings Infinity.
No worries. I am just a very opinionated person and its hard for me to not get my point across to the fullest of my potential. I hope I didn't offend anyone! And I apologize for any irritability I may have caused. Also, I don't have any hard feelings. We are all human and get flustered at times especially when people question your beliefs. The biggest issue occurs when people are too stubborn or simply do not have enough empathy to put themselves into somebody else's shoes. You're right though, sadly I will never know what it is like to be the opposite sex, but what I do know is that trouble comes from both ends and no matter who you are, pain will find its way to all of us.
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When you're part of any group that's been oppressed and have been told to sit down and shut up for so long, you have every damn right to turn that into something to be proud of.
It's not necessarily pride in just existing as a woman, but pride in all the **** women have overcome and achieved, especially when society constantly to this day tells them that they're lesser. The same goes for racial minorities and LGBT+ people.
Honeybun26
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I would say yes I am a feminist. I feel like that word has a certain stigma associated with it though, which bothers me.
It's pointless to feel like "yeah, women have been through so much, so that makes me special because I'M a woman." Because unless you yourself have been through some *****, (and even so, everybody has horror stories to tell about their life) it doesn't make sense to pat yourself on the back for what others have experienced. Just my 2 cents. I agree with Infinity, and no, I'm not a boy. Nobody makes me feel bad for being a girl. So no, I'm not a feminist.
p.s not checking back here again, lol.
That Zephyr Guy
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Today I learned being a feminist means I am by some people's definitions a sexist white lady
Also lol at people thinking you can't be snarky to sexist behavior. If someone was acting in a way that was demeaning to me, I doubt I'd be very polite to them.
Also lol at people thinking you can't be snarky to sexist behavior. If someone was acting in a way that was demeaning to me, I doubt I'd be very polite to them.
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Oh no no, I think you misunderstood me, or call is cultural difference or lost in translation. And I will be so prejudiced if I want to ok?
I was merely reacting to the words "no right". As free human beings we have the right to change our mind and not wanting to do a job anymore, or following a guy, or family. If they run away, they have their reasons right? Whatever the reasons. If they stole from you, you can fill a complain to the police, if they didn't respect their contract you can sue them or the agency, if they don't do their job well, you can fire them. So the right to leave also come with consequences.
No really? Doh! It's just what I am saying. They are humans, they have rights, and among them the right to leave unless they are in prison for some crimes.
Regarding maids that kill children, it's the same thing, it was written that there were more maids that kill children..(...) reading this, make me think that it happened more than twice and that finally maids seem, according to what I'm reading here, to have a bad reputation, and it's sure I wouldn't have one to take care of my children.
Here come the prejudiced part (since you think I'm so prejudiced). Why would you need maids for a start? Even more if they are so unreliable, thieves, lazy and babies killers. The way you describe them if like they were the scum of the society or perhaps I didn't read well or misunderstood you. In my place, very little people have maids, and they just hire them for a few hours per week because they work like 70 hours a week and have no time to clean. I don't know anybody who would keep a maid 24h/24h 7 days a week...Maybe Celine Dion, who knows? Not even disabled persons keep them that long. Here come the prejudiced part: do you really need help to take care of yourself and kids? Especially the help of so fickle maids that can't do their job right?
Question: would you do their job?
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Completely missed the point lmao. Nowhere did anyone mention "being special because you're a woman".
I'm not saying pat yourself on the back for what others have done before you. I'm saying women can be proud of women as a whole for those achievements. Also that women are still put down by societal expectations, and if they're defying those expectations and doing anything to help burn them down entirely they deserve to be proud.
You don't have to feel bad for being a woman to be a feminist oh my god how many times does someone have to say that feminism is wanting equal rights for everyone? If you don't wanna use the label, fine, but at least know what feminism is first.
If they are not slaves, they can run away. Too bad for you. Just like I can leave classe in the middle of it. That doesn't mean that they won't be consequence. The teacher may give me a bad grade, or suspend me. All in the way we say things.
What I hate is how quick some people (especially on the internet) are to judge you if you even mention the word feminist. Sometimes people will be like 'lol go back to your pointless gender studies degree, and you'll never get a boyfriend' and i'm like...? I study medicine and have a great boyfriend but cool thanks
This is hilarious.
"When you're part of any group that's been oppressed and have been told to sit down and shut up for so long, you have every damn right to turn that into something to be proud of.
It's not necessarily pride in just existing as a woman, but pride in all the **** women have overcome and achieved, especially when society constantly to this day tells them that they're lesser." - nvll
This sums up the idea that you think being a female is "empowering". People everyday put up with hardship, not just females. Don't flatter yourself thinking that females are the only ones to overcome obstacles.
By your logic Im responsible for putting a man on the moon because majority of the people were white males.... So I guess I could be proud of that right? Except I don't know the first think about jet propulsion. And in modern day women oppression? Just like racism, if you even come close to offending somebody it becomes a hate crime. Good luck oppressing ANY gender/race without repercussions.
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i'm not a slave that must mean i can run away from school and never come back ever even though my parents paid a sht ton of money to get me there right? no. that's not how it works bud. if i PAY you to STAY HERE AND DO YA DAMN WORK that means im PAYING you to STAY HERE!!!!!! AND DO YA DAMN WORK!!!! BECAUSE ITS YOUR JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! do you even know how a maid works like they came here bc its their fckin job to come here and work they chose this not me soOoOoOorry you don't like that i'm paying you money just to make me lunch or clean my room
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When did I say that? Yall on this site sure do love putting words in my mouth.
Men and white people aren't and never were oppressed in the West. Plus I never said you can't be proud to be a man or proud to be white, it's just pointless and empty since white people and men are celebrated pretty much every day. There's a difference between that pride and the pride of oppressed groups.
...What? Where do you live that people actually face legal repercussion for being sexists or racists? And no, people getting rightfully angry at you doesn't count.
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To answer all of your questions.
1. You didn't say that, you implied it.
2. It doesn't matter if they were oppressed or not, it's an achievement as a whole.
3. I have lived in Chicago most of my life.
lostineverfreeforest
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Feminazis. There's a difference. They're sexists who claim to believe in equality. A feminist wants rights equal to men, supporting woman's rights to do so. A feminazi wants to take rights from men and/or believe they deserve no rights. They aren't much unlike SJWs.
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