Animal Crossing Twitter's next move...

[SpiritofAce]

I head onto Twitter this morning.. scroll down to the Animal Crossing section, and I see someone send out a tweet with the sole purpose of demeaning The Bit Block by attacking them for their political opinion.

Who do you think you guys are? You have absolutely no right to do this to someone. I don't share Bit Block's political viewpoint, but does that mean that we should go to Twitter and try to shame him online for it?

I'm disgusted.

 

[ForgottenT]

I don't particularly like Josh, but this is why I can't use twitter without wanting to throw myself infront of a train, cancel culture, mob mentality, echo chambers, social "justice" it's the worst userbase in existence, somehow people become the worst versions of themselves the second the little blue bird shows up.

 

[UglyMonsterFace]

People these days cannot accept that other people have different opinions. I just lost a friend the other day because I had a different opinion and got accused of being a bad person and had words put in my mouth that I never said. It's really sad that we cannot respect each other's differences anymore or at least be respectful in voicing those differences.

There are many things I disagree with about Josh's way of saying things. I don't think he's a bad person but I do think that he says things in very disagreeable ways. I still believe he's one of the most creative Nintendo channels out there.

I wish people would just be respectful of each other and stop with the mob mentality and bullying people just cuz we disagree with their views.

 

[SpiritofAce]

People these days cannot accept that other people have different opinions. I just lost a friend the other day because I had a different opinion and got accused of being a bad person and had words put in my mouth that I never said. It's really sad that we cannot respect each other's differences anymore or at least be respectful in voicing those differences.

There are many things I disagree with about Josh's way of saying things. I don't think he's a bad person but I do think that he says things in very disagreeable ways. I still believe he's one of the most creative Nintendo channels out there.

I wish people would just be respectful of each other and stop with the mob mentality and bullying people just cuz we disagree with their views.

Great post, sorry about you losing your friend. There's definitely a mob mentality out there and whatever our differences, surely politics shouldn't be a deciding factor on who your friends are, but instead who they are as a person?

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I don't particularly like Josh, but this is why I can't use twitter without wanting to throw myself infront of a train, cancel culture, mob mentality, echo chambers, social "justice" it's the worst userbase in existence, somehow people become the worst versions of themselves the second the little blue bird shows up.

People definitely have such an inflated ego hiding behind their profile picture on Twitter, moreso than any other platform.

 

[Romaki]

Can you link to what you're talking about? From what I see people are talking about him being a Trump supporter and using Animal Crossing to push his views? Quoting him: "The game franchise that literally features a giant wall protecting your town, requires you to go through a vetting process to enter each other's islands by sharing long codes and has a gigantic focus on the pros of capitalism at the very core of the experience". I don't think that statement is reasonable, also him making fun of people who love Raymond just makes him look butthurt.

But yeah, people are allowed to talk about the public statements of others. Personally I don't really have a problem with the political views of others since people are free to think whatever, but I don't think it's appropiate to use a game like Animal Crossing to push a pro-Trump narrative. It doesn't have game mechanics because it believes the statements Trump makes... People are allowed to criticize him for his comments.

I assume this is the context right? (The comments being more relevant than the post itself.)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266252666549620736

But I don't think it's right to suspend someone from Twitter after being mass-reported, or mass-reporting someone to begin with. Keep it civil.

Also it's just bad timing with everything real going on in the world right now. The Twitter mob will forget it tomorrow.

 

[SpiritofAce]

"The game franchise that literally features a giant wall protecting your town, requires you to go through a vetting process to enter each other's islands by sharing long codes and has a gigantic focus on the pros of capitalism at the very core of the experience". I don't think that statement is reasonable, also him making fun of people who love Raymond just makes him look butthurt.

But yeah, people are allowed to talk about the public statements of others. Personally I don't really have a problem with the political views of others since people are free to think whatever, but I don't think it's appropiate to use a game like Animal Crossing to push a pro-Trump narrative. It doesn't have game mechanics because it believes the statements Trump makes... People are allowed to criticize him for his comments.

I assume this is the context right? (The comments being more relevant than the post itself.)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266252666549620736

But I don't think it's right to suspend someone from Twitter after being mass-reported, or mass-reporting someone to begin with. Keep it civil.

Also it's just bad timing with everything real going on in the world right now. The Twitter mob will forget it tomorrow.

He's clearly just poking fun with that statement. Loads of people make the joke about Animal Crossing promoting Capitalism... it's kind of a running gag at this point, no? Also, he is in no way pushing a pro-Trump narrative through Animal Crossing. In one of his recent Q&As on his channels, he said he doesn't care what political viewpoint people that watch his channel have - as long as they're not overly extreme or obnoxious. So why should people villify him for his views?

(Side note - nice new Avatar, by the way. I thought I remembered you from previous threads. )

 

[Romaki]

He's clearly just poking fun with that statement. Loads of people make the joke about Animal Crossing promoting Capitalism... it's kind of a running gag at this point, no? Also, he is in no way pushing a pro-Trump narrative through Animal Crossing. In one of his recent Q&As on his channels, he said he doesn't care what political viewpoint people that watch his channel have - as long as they're not overly extreme or obnoxious. So why should people villify him for his views?

I don't think he's just poking fun (but I don't know him so this is more my first impression), but the commenters are definitely pushing it much further than he is.

Never watched his videos, so I just went off by his wall comment. But I can see how it could have been a joking response to a different comment. I think the community constantly goes from pro and anti capitalism viewpoints regarding Nook.

But I agree with him. All political opinions are allowed to be held. And you are right too, he shouldn't be villified for whatever harmless comment he makes. He didn't attack any individual person, so why would it be okay for people to attack him? Honestly just let him be and support AC content creators you like. It seems like Twitter is always searching for that one thing that allows them to dismiss and harass a person.

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I've been reading about the situation some more, and I just wanted to share the full context of the quote I posted earlier:

He's basically just saying how the game would appeal to a Trump supporter. The post ends with "The game... isn't for Trump supporters?"

I also checked out his YouTube channel since I don't know him. Clicked on his "Animal Crossing in 2020" video and it was basically just arguments like you're not allowed to like ugly villagers or how posting a villager singing for the 30th time is annoying. Pretty standard stuff. He's been doing Nintendo content for 11 years, so respect to him. None of his videos seem political, but he would still be allowed to voice his opinion like everybody else. Also I just noticed that he said "vote for whoever you like, I voted red". He didn't even make any political statement.

 

[Flodorf]

You know, as an outsider from Europe, Trump does advocate this black and white perspective no? I am not saying I agree with attacking someone who has a different political view than you, but I do find it ironic that you are defending someone who supports Trump who is all about being like that.

EDIT: And thinking about it, makes the people who react to a Trump supporter like that not much better than Trump himself!

 

[kappnfangirl]

Anyone else feel like some of these are new fans to the series? a lot of the older fans are aware that he supports trump and we still love his make believe videos. I for one definitely do not support trump in any way and my political views are liberal but I also respect other people who have a different political viewpoint. I think cancelling him just for the sole reason that he supports trump is wrong, but people are free to make their own decisions. That said, I think he's for sure one of the most creative and passionate animal crossing youtubers and has been around for a long time.

 

[Fendi]

While everyone is entitled to an opinion, I think the political climate nowadays in regards to the U.S. is so polarized. Obviously I don't intend to derail this thread into a political argument, but all I will say is that that the likes of Trump and his supporters have made extremist views be seen as "acceptable". Therefore, as much as I try my best to respect people's political standpoints, vying for an individual like Trump who has a track record of racism, misogyny, and other foul actions is not a good look in my opinion.

But in regards to Twitter, it does get a bit too much sometimes, but obviously we live in a democratic society where everyone can share their thoughts. Obviously the irony in all of this, is that Trump himself recently threatened to put stricter measures on social media, despite being responsible for fuelling the growing divide against the media on social media.

With Animal Crossing though, obviously as a franchise, they will remain neutral throughout all of this. It's rare for a brand or company to be outspoken with their political views. I also just think it's distasteful to try and carve out a political agenda from a game.

 

[Balbanes]

Sounds like some people don’t like being called out for being racist and supporting racists.

 

[Envy]

If we had two respectable sides of the political spectrum it might just be "opinions", but I don't think it is the case at this point. Someone supporting Trump speaks volumes about them, and those volumes do not reflect kindly on them. For one (amongst many things, but I'm mentioning a personal one for a reason) it means they either hate people like me, or don't care enough about our rights to not vote for him. These are not the kind of people that have any respect for my very being and they can buzz off.

I'm grateful for the warning, and I will never touch another video by TheBitBlock.

 

[Sloom]

i think i hate this thread

 

[Manah]

I do think it's perfectly understandable if someone ends friendships over politics that can kill or otherwise harm people. I don't know why that's even a question.

That said, these days I'm too old and mentally compromised to deal with all the anger on both sides. Got a valid cause but you yell at people how horrible they are for using Twitter for their hobby and not activism? I don't have the spoons to listen, bye.

Also, the real life equivalent of the "wall" and "vetting process" in AC is a house with a front door.

 

[Romaki]

You know, as an outsider from Europe, Trump does advocate this black and white perspective no? I am not saying I agree with attacking someone who has a different political view than you, but I do find it ironic that you are defending someone who supports Trump who is all about being like that.

EDIT: And thinking about it, makes the people who react to a Trump supporter like that not much better than Trump himself!

I think the black and white thinking comes more from America pretty much forcingn a two party system. One party has to be always right while the other is always wrong. America doesn't seem to have a more educated attitude towards politics, and I think that's because they don't have a politics class? I don't know where you're from, but once our class was 14/15 the politic class became the most important basic knowledge class.

The problem is that one individual having an opinion is equated to a person in power trying to push a new law or something. And whether you support it or not, you get hate from your party and the other party. Any political discussion is always handled in absolutes where one person being banned from Twitter for not even insulting or harassing anyone is justified. Discussing the errors and bad intentions of the parties shouldn't effect any individual who voted for or roots for them.

Edit: But we're not Americans, so we're not really living out the consequnces of this type of online behavior.

 

[Feraligator]

I really, really do not like this guy. I've seen some of the stuff he's said (VERY racist, sexist opinions) from Andre at GameXplain and I cannot watch his videos anymore without cringing. But that being said, I don't go on Twitter or YouTube just to call him out. I can't be bothered with this stuff. Trying to change people from these kinds of opinions is usually just a waste of time.

 

[coderp]

This entire thread is shameful to the spirit of this board...

 

[Mayor Moon]

me: a very leftist person seeing this thread i do not see

 

[DJStarstryker]

This thread feels like it should be in General Discussions. It's not really about Animal Crossing, but is more about Josh/TheBitBlock and political thoughts.

 

[Blueskyy]

This thread feels like it should be in General Discussions. It's not really about Animal Crossing, but is more about Josh/TheBitBlock and political thoughts.

Then report it so they can move it.

It really gets annoying when people dislike some one just for their beliefs. If a person tries to push their beliefs into me, they yeah...I won’t like it much. But if they just state what they believe or support I’m not going to hate them. I’d rather listen to why they believe what they do and respectful agree or disagree and counter with what I believe. I don’t really support this guy and his opinions, but I wouldn’t attack him. Twitter is such a toxic place.