Absurd entry fees for turnips?

[Saga]

Does anyone have advice for finding a good Discord server, group, or forum? Like, what search terms or keywords I should be looking for?

I tried googling (and looking on Discord) for 25+ and 30+ groups, thinking that other older players might be more relaxed and less profit-focused, but wasn't able to find anything. I'm happy to play with people of all ages, but really want a laid-back, friendly, generous group. Nook's Cranny just stresses me out, the way it is right now.

 

[DubiousDelphine]

The only case i ever happened. I had 575 bells for turnips. I didn't really wanted fragments on anything or tips. But people were nice and gave tips anyway.
but i dont understand why fragements or gold nuggets

 

[Raz]

Does anyone have advice for finding a good Discord server, group, or forum? Like, what search terms or keywords I should be looking for?

I tried googling (and looking on Discord) for 25+ and 30+ groups, thinking that other older players might be more relaxed and less profit-focused, but wasn't able to find anything. I'm happy to play with people of all ages, but really want a laid-back, friendly, generous group. Nook's Cranny just stresses me out, the way it is right now.

If you find any, please, let me know, as I'm also trying to find something similar.

Post automatically merged: Apr 13, 2020

The only case i ever happened. I had 575 bells for turnips. I didn't really wanted fragments on anything or tips. But people were nice and gave tips anyway.
but i dont understand why fragements or gold nuggets

They probably are asking for this because fragments and golden nuggets are the rarest materials in the game. They're hard to get than anything else, so I wouldn't be surprised if the same people that are price gouging NMTs will shift their "economy" to fragments and gold nuggets.

 

[dragonair]

There was one person who's turnips were selling at around 300 and they were telling people to message them for "negotiations" and said that if you don't tip 3 NMT per trip you can't come. Meanwhile a person right below them was selling at 600+ and only said that tips were appreciated. Guess who's I went to lol. Others say you're only allowed to come if you give rare DIYs. That's why I stick to TBT for turnip sales, I've rarely seen anyone being that intense lol.

 

[JasonBurrows]

Yeah, 100K is usually my base 10% which I think is fair! If I ever got a decently high price (above 500) I’d request the same. Just tons of stupid prices out there To make sure people don’t sell and leave, I’ve been to a couple islands where they’ve made cages Pretty clever actually lol

The only issue with that is that visitors have the option of pressing the - Button and pressing "Return to my island" and then a cage would not have worked on them at all, but yeah, cages do sound like an interesting plan.

 

[LambdaDelta]

some people be greedy, yo

They probably are asking for this because fragments and golden nuggets are the rarest materials in the game

nuggets I get, but fragments? I get that **** faster than I can even use

which I mean it certainly isn't enough to make every diy that uses them, but still

 

[Mieiki]

Any entry fee above 99k/1NMT is a scam.

 

[Zura]

I don't charge visit but I always mention tips are accepted. I don't care how much bells you make and how many trips you need, take your time! Maybe even take a tour around the block? Idc!

Of course, I'm sure it's the TTer cheaters that are the ones charging insane amounts and making a living off honest players.

 

[Kaioin]

Just look for people doing it for free tbh, plenty of people do it. I open up for free when I get good prices - I think the current focus on NMT is a little much.

 

[niconii]

I've seen people with turnip prices ranging from 150-300+ asking for absurd amounts of NMTs (2 minimum per trip LOL), IGBs, or gold, rare furniture and DIYs, and then there are some other people with higher prices like 400-500+ only asking for 1 NMT or 99k IGBs, sometimes just tips (not even mandatory! In this case, I usually still leave 99K IGBs, sometimes a NMT).

I understand giving 1 NMT/99k IGBs per entry, but anything higher than that it's a no for me tbh.

 

[Raz]

some people be greedy, yo


nuggets I get, but fragments? I get that **** faster than I can even use

which I mean it certainly isn't enough to make every diy that uses them, but still

It's probably the same people who made NMT= currency a thing. As one cant dupe NMTs (nor fragments or gold nuggets, afaik), and these materials aren't exactly as abundant as the other ones (gold is a rare drop from stones; fragmes are meteor shower-dependant), I can already see people using these things as a "new currency". Maybe not normal star fragments, but the big ones or the aries fragments, for example.

For these people, it all comes down to make something desirable enough to make people pay what they want for it.

 

[trickyfox]

I'll play the devil's advocate here: (and maybe get some hate for it)
People have valid reasons to charge for turnip trips (not talking about overcharging though, that's a different story). They can be:
- They're spending their time hosting you while they could be virtually doing anything else more enjoyable, including farming that 99k bells fee or NMT ticket;
- They don't want to be overtaken with tons of requests they can't deal with and deal then with people annoyed cursing at you because they couldn't sell turnips at your place, like it's your obbligation;
- They want a reward for the trouble caused (people destroying flowers, leaving with the - instead of airport, trolls, etc)
- They're bad at farming currency in the game and that's the best way they know.

About charging NMT for everything nowadays, reasons might be:
- They're time travelers, which makes it easy to make bells thus NMT are harder to farm and more valuable to them;
- Bells are worthless for a lot of people since they either have tons of it, or think bells lost their value with dupe abuses/time travel to turnip sales.
- They're more useful than bells, specially for people who farm materials/cycle for villagers/search for hybrids.

The solution for this: use a small community/group where people know each other. I have been in one since day 1 and it's been an amazing experience. Don't expect this experience for big groups like here, since nobody knows each other.

Additional things I'd like to say about this:
- You're not 'morally' better than someone who charges, because charging for your time is not wrong.
- Also for people saying "you shouldn't charge friends", they're not your friends most times. They're a stranger you never spoke to. You don't want their friendship, you want their turnip price. I don't charge my friends, but I definitely would charge people I don't know.
- Saying "they already have enough and I don't" doesn't change the fact they might have spent a lot of time for this and their time is still valuable. People aren't obligated to share with you their stuff.
- I hate the word "tip" for this. If payment is a MUST, use the word "fee". Tip is something optional.

 

[Romaki]

Well, 500-800k seems ridiculous, but I can understand 5 NMT. While extremely valuable, they're also relative easy to earn.

But I do think people who open up their turnip prices have a right to somewhat gatekeep them. When you have strangers constantly coming in you either have to overlook them or hide all your valuable stuff in some places they can't reach. And the higher the entry fee, the less people will decide to come to your island and you won't have to guard like 30 people an hour. But 500k should be the highest amount imo.

 

[BunnyElsa]

The only issue with that is that visitors have the option of pressing the - Button and pressing "Return to my island" and then a cage would not have worked on them at all, but yeah, cages do sound like an interesting plan.

The way he built the entrance was like, he'd push you into the jail if you didn't drop And couldn't run past to get to the shop. Was funny tbh.

I'll play the devil's advocate here: (and maybe get some hate for it)
People have valid reasons to charge for turnip trips (not talking about overcharging though, that's a different story). They can be:
- They're spending their time hosting you while they could be virtually doing anything else more enjoyable, including farming that 99k bells fee or NMT ticket;
- They don't want to be overtaken with tons of requests they can't deal with and deal then with people annoyed cursing at you because they couldn't sell turnips at your place, like it's your obbligation;
- They want a reward for the trouble caused (people destroying flowers, leaving with the - instead of airport, trolls, etc)
- They're bad at farming currency in the game and that's the best way they know.

About charging NMT for everything nowadays, reasons might be:
- They're time travelers, which makes it easy to make bells thus NMT are harder to farm and more valuable to them;
- Bells are worthless for a lot of people since they either have tons of it, or think bells lost their value with dupe abuses/time travel to turnip sales.
- They're more useful than bells, specially for people who farm materials/cycle for villagers/search for hybrids.

The solution for this: use a small community/group where people know each other. I have been in one since day 1 and it's been an amazing experience. Don't expect this experience for big groups like here, since nobody knows each other.

Additional things I'd like to say about this:
- You're not 'morally' better than someone who charges, because charging for your time is not wrong.
- Also for people saying "you shouldn't charge friends", they're not your friends most times. They're a stranger you never spoke to. You don't want their friendship, you want their turnip price. I don't charge my friends, but I definitely would charge people I don't know.
- Saying "they already have enough and I don't" doesn't change the fact they might have spent a lot of time for this and their time is still valuable. People aren't obligated to share with you their stuff.
- I hate the word "tip" for this. If payment is a MUST, use the word "fee". Tip is something optional.

100% not saying people shouldn't hold entrance fees. Hosting sessions can be really tiresome, and you're losing your own time to help others (+ what you've mentioned about the flowers etc.). I usually pay 10% (roughly 99K) or I'm happy to pay 1NMT (which is equivalent to 200K bells, as that's what I sell them for). It's the people asking for 5-10 NMT or 600K+ bells - the crazy prices which is simply just due to greed. It's mainly in this external Discord server and was wondering if anyone else was noticing the prices in general. Here, I haven't been overcharged for turnips and I love hosting my island for DIYs (usually just for a wishlist item).

 

[roseychuu]

I think people seem to be mixing up what a tip is vs a service fee? I agree that people asking for a tip isn't a tip, but I also understand asking for a /reasonable/ service fee or asking if people have anything you are looking for in return (whether it be hybrids, items, DIYs, etc)... After all, keeping yourself online for hours just to service people for 20 min of their time can leave you burnt out. I usually split whatever nmt or bells I get from people with friends of mine and if one of my friends has good turnip prices we all help each other out with that... I think you just have to find the right people. I promise there are kind people out here on TBT who are willing to help others, you'll encounter the bad eggs and people who are greedy but the good people make it worth it. You just have to look for them. There are plenty of people on this forum I've seen get together and create a small group of people willing to help one another, including people who have posted in this thread, alongside myself.

 

[trickyfox]

100% not saying people shouldn't hold entrance fees. Hosting sessions can be really tiresome, and you're losing your own time to help others (+ what you've mentioned about the flowers etc.). I usually pay 10% (roughly 99K) or I'm happy to pay 1NMT (which is equivalent to 200K bells, as that's what I sell them for). It's the people asking for 5-10 NMT or 600K+ bells - the crazy prices which is simply just due to greed. It's mainly in this external Discord server and was wondering if anyone else was noticing the prices in general. Here, I haven't been overcharged for turnips and I love hosting my island for DIYs (usually just for a wishlist item).

I know your original post didn't say that, is just that the thread itself turned into a rant about this, so thought i'd share my opinion
I too think 1NMT/99k is a fair fee, 5~10 NMT seem abusive.

Post automatically merged: Apr 13, 2020

I think people seem to be mixing up what a tip is vs a service fee?

It's like when people host a "giveaway" where you need to make something for them in exchange (like art). That's not a giveaway, that's a trade.

 

[BunnyElsa]

I know your original post didn't say that, is just that the thread itself turned into a rant about this, so thought i'd share my opinion
I too think 1NMT/99k is a fair fee, 5~10 NMT seem abusive.

Post automatically merged: Apr 13, 2020

It's like when people host a "giveaway" where you need to make something for them in exchange (like art). That's not a giveaway, that's a trade.

Ah that's more than fair, my apologies!! ☺ Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw someone's island asking 10NMT and the turnips weren't even 600+? Stoopidness.

 

[creamyy]

some of them aren't even asking for bells but very specific items like celeste diys. like that's not just something everyone has lying around

 

[JKDOS]

Based on the cost of 250k p/NMT, you could just sell 5 NMTs for 1,250,000 IGB and forget the Stalk Markets.

Tipping 1.24m IGB is beyond ridiculous unless you're making a profit of over 6m

 

[Lazaros]

my thought process is kinda weird to explain, but bear with me: i feel like, there's two sides - those who really just want to share and not force anybody to give them something, but still would like something and those who see that everyone else gets through with it, so ofc they want to do it too.

from my personal obversation, a lot of people will turn away from something if it has a high mandatory fee - say, someone is charging a 99k entry fee, people are less likely to turn away but not nearly as compelled if somebody is offering to come over for free, whereas people who charge 198k entree fees and upwards (or stuff like mats, DIYs or "rare" furniture) are less likely to be visited if they have a "sub-optimal" turnip price (somewhere from 250 to say, 450 per turnip). it takes up inventory space and those usually are people who don't allow you to come over a second time so it's "fair" for everyone, whereas they're also asking you to potentially fill 1-2 inventory spaces that you could have used to sell your turnips. it's kind of like going to a place and being mad about the prices, but still buying?

if people do not ask for a mandatory fee, but express that tips are appreciated, a lot of people might feel like "this person is nice! they are doing this for us, not for profit!" and will either bring over a gift/tip or leave them some of their turnip money after they've sold to express gratitude or make up for lost time the host has for, well, hosting this - if you have enough turnips to fill your inventory without tools like this, it's optimal for you, because you can always drop off your tip once you've MADE "stonks", whereas anything above a 99k entree fee requires you to give up an inventory space and does not let you "maximize" your profit. sure, there are people who might take advantage of this and not give the host anything - and say it's their fault for not installing a fee and just saying they'd appreciate a tip - but the vast majority tends to bring all kinds of good gifts, craftables and share their profits with the host if they aren't required to pay a fee.