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And btw I only meant if you got the baby by intention, if you actually wanted but then changed your mind, then that's your fault, you should go through the pain, that's what I meant
 
Read the quote I said in my latest post its to both you and the other girl

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Sorry I meant male, so sorry about that

sure you didn't do that on purpose....

Ok but don't you want the baby to live? Shouldn't it deserve to get a human life instead of not getting a chance?

well, for one, it's not a baby. it's a thing that would one day become a baby if it got the chance to develop that far. and considering the suffering the pregnant person will have to go through to get it out to give it its chance i don't think it's worth it. obviously every pregnant person can decide what they feel, many people decide to not get an abortion even though they don't want a child because they think it's immoral. and there's nothing wrong with that. but people who don't want a child and would like to get an abortion absolutely should be allowed to get one.
 
yeah lol sorry i messed up the words. lmao. i know that it's considered alive from like week 22 (don't quote me on this i'm just trying to remember my old biology lessons) or something, i just didn't know the proper words. the thing is, abortions that late are only allowed in very special cases.

my mom knows a woman who got an abortion very late. (like around week 20-23 i think?). she got a gravestone for him and named him because to her he was a baby. but the doctors said that if he lived he wouldn't live for longer than a few years because he had heart problems and stuff. so she got an abortion really late because if he would have been born it would just have been bad for everyone. idk this might be kinda unrelated but, like, no one is like "oh nvm i don't want the baby" after 5 months of being pregnant and then they get an abortion.

8 weeks old is what it tends to be referred too, and I was still thinking of my opinion when I started posting here.
The only justifiable form of abortion to me is the plan B pill or whatever its called. There may well be people that decide to abort later on for whatever reason.
 
I think that it if there is free birth control available, then abortion shouldn't be needed as much. Contraceptives are there if you do not want to get pregnant whether you have consented sex or get raped.
 
sure you didn't do that on purpose....



well, for one, it's not a baby. it's a thing that would one day become a baby if it got the chance to develop that far. and considering the suffering the pregnant person will have to go through to get it out to give it its chance i don't think it's worth it. obviously every pregnant person can decide what they feel, many people decide to not get an abortion even though they don't want a child because they think it's immoral. and there's nothing wrong with that. but people who don't want a child and would like to get an abortion absolutely should be allowed to get one.

Yes I agree however if the person wanted the baby but then decides no, the woman should go through the suffering and deliver it, basically what I said in my last post

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And I actually believe in my opinion when the baby isn't exaclty there yet, it still is, and God is making it for you, and it's your child
 
I think that it if there is free birth control available, then abortion shouldn't be needed as much. Contraceptives are there if you do not want to get pregnant whether you have consented sex or get raped.

oh yeah let me just take a pill every day for years in case i get raped so i don't have to get an abortion because i don't want a child! nice!

most of the time people don't use abortion instead of regular birth control. it's not exactly nice to get one, many people get emotional and it can feel bad in your body (from what i've heard you can get cramps n stuff, also it takes quite a long time).
abortions are honestly needed. if someone forgot to use a condom or something like that still doesn't mean they deserve to be pregnant when they don't want to be pregnant.
i definitely don't think it's okay to think "well abortions exist so i don't need birth control", but honestly that's probably not a very common thought. and it definitely doesn't mean that we should get rid of abortions.
 
8 weeks old is what it tends to be referred too, and I was still thinking of my opinion when I started posting here.
The only justifiable form of abortion to me is the plan B pill or whatever its called. There may well be people that decide to abort later on for whatever reason.

In your first post you said you didn't really have an opinion on the subject, what changed?
 
im all for the choice of it. im not saying that people who are pregnant should abort. but it really should be up to the woman's choice of either wanting the baby or not. the fact that people don't want to give the woman a choice, is a problem.

like who are you to say to a complete strange whether they should abort or keep it. your not entitled to their body, their choices, and their developing embryo.
 
Actually tbh that's how I was born, I was actually born to a really poor family who couldn't take care of me but my birth mother decided to not get me aborted and she gave birth to me and gave me up for adoption
 
oh yeah let me just take a pill every day for years in case i get raped so i don't have to get an abortion because i don't want a child! nice!

most of the time people don't use abortion instead of regular birth control. it's not exactly nice to get one, many people get emotional and it can feel bad in your body (from what i've heard you can get cramps n stuff, also it takes quite a long time).
abortions are honestly needed. if someone forgot to use a condom or something like that still doesn't mean they deserve to be pregnant when they don't want to be pregnant.
i definitely don't think it's okay to think "well abortions exist so i don't need birth control", but honestly that's probably not a very common thought. and it definitely doesn't mean that we should get rid of abortions.

How can you "forget" to use a condom... I don't know how much more I can say before this gets very NSFW.
 
Yes I agree however if the person wanted the baby but then decides no, the woman should go through the suffering and deliver it, basically what I said in my last post

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And I actually believe in my opinion when the baby isn't exaclty there yet, it still is, and God is making it for you, and it's your child

Please don't bring a possibly fake deity into these conversations, not everything revolves around it.
 
Actually tbh that's how I was born, I was actually born to a really poor family who couldn't take care of me but my birth mother decided to not get me aborted and she gave birth to me and gave me up for adoption

This is true I delivered him
 
In your first post you said you didn't really have an opinion on the subject, what changed?

I don't really have an opinion on it, but I have been deciding as I go along. I have been swaying left and right on this subject, but now I'm toward anti more because it reminds me how easily I could just not exist because my mum only knew my dad for a couple of months and she accidentally got pregnant but didn't want to abort me.
 
oh yeah let me just take a pill every day for years in case i get raped so i don't have to get an abortion because i don't want a child! nice!

most of the time people don't use abortion instead of regular birth control. it's not exactly nice to get one, many people get emotional and it can feel bad in your body (from what i've heard you can get cramps n stuff, also it takes quite a long time).
abortions are honestly needed. if someone forgot to use a condom or something like that still doesn't mean they deserve to be pregnant when they don't want to be pregnant.
i definitely don't think it's okay to think "well abortions exist so i don't need birth control", but honestly that's probably not a very common thought. and it definitely doesn't mean that we should get rid of abortions.
I don't really see a problem with taking a pill everyday if it's free.
Yes, but people should understand that every time they have sex, there is a chance of getting pregnant even if they don't want to be pregnant.
I never said we need to completely get rid of abortions. I'm saying that if people took more precautionary measures to prevent pregnancy, then there would be less abortions.
 
I'm not gonna get into it on another abortion thread but two things:

1. Contraceptives and any form of birth control do not always work. Whether it's condoms, birth control, the morning after pill... none are 100%.

2. No one has sex with the intention of having a baby only to change their mind after, you're making up a situation to support your weightless argument. Plus, even if this did happen, the change of mind would have likely happened because of a change in their mental, physical, or financial ability to go through with the pregnancy. If by chance neither of those were the case, the mother still should be able to have an abortion because as it was said multiple times, carrying a baby for 9 months is a huge weight (literally) and responsibility.
 
How can you "forget" to use a condom... I don't know how much more I can say before this gets very NSFW.

lol whatever, even if you're like "f**k it, let's not use a condom" you don't deserve to be pregnant for 9 months and then give birth to a baby you did not want. yes it's irresponsible af and people should always use birth control if they don't want a child, but when a pregnancy can be prevented by getting an abortion i don't see why anyone would want to force someone to be pregnant and give birth to a child when they don't want to be pregnant.
 
How am I brining fake deity into the discussion? Did I say everything revolves around it?

You mentioned "God" when it was not needed and no you didn't say everything revolves but most serious discussions we have on these forums mention it for some reason. : P
 
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I'm not gonna get into it on another abortion thread but two things:

1. Contraceptives and any form of birth control do not always work. Whether it's condoms, birth control, the morning after pill... none are 100%.

2. No one has sex with the intention of having a baby only to change their mind after, you're making up a situation to support your weightless argument. Plus, even if this did happen, the change of mind would have likely happened because of a change in their mental, physical, or financial ability to go through with the pregnancy. If by chance neither of those were the case, the mother still should be able to have an abortion because as it was said multiple times, carrying a baby for 9 months is a huge weight (literally) and responsibility.

How do you know? That happened with my birth parents, so you can't say that dosent happen LOL

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You mentioned "God" when it was not needed and no you didn't say everything revolves but most serious discussions we have on these forums mention it for some reason. : P

Ok so is there a problem? I said that your basically killing the living being God wanted you to have, I can say whatever I want nobody else but you said anything
 
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