Mafia TBT Nub Mafia IV: Hijinks in Sugar Rush (Game Over/Third Party Win)

To be honest Id rather lynch jam or someone. I feel like if Dan was mafia his scummates would tell him what to do and not to post that he's confused.

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I'll be voting for Skaro. They bandwagoned cal and hasnt contributed very much.


What if his other mafia scummates were also newbies and didn't know that they shouldn't post "I'm confused" either? This is a newbie game after all. xD
 
How? I just realized it, how is it odd, exactly?

Also, hello everyone.
I guess I just found it odd that you had originally posted something like that "the only thing we can really do on day 1 is go for lynching an inactive" and then you later said that that discussion isn't helping us. I thought you kinda contradicted yourself. I know it was probably that you were just realizing it but that's why I thought it was odd.
 
But I do know roll calling early could be taken as two ways, One: The player has no idea how to play the game and is making a huge rookie mistake. Or Two: is trying to throw suspicion off of them by false role claiming. I'd personally think the later, because honestly roll claiming this early on is a great ploy to keep the inexperienced off their back. Even if they are new themselves.
Found the reason why I'm probably getting voted, skaro is most likely skum since she just voted me also for no apparent reason.

I was the first person to actually do something aside from "checking in" or "asking for people to contribute" and you give me this? what the balls man that's pretty skummy. Also, if I were mafia I wouldn't want to draw attention to myself by doing what I did.
 
So I see that skaro bandwagoned onto dal without explaining why, which is p similar to her irc mafia playstyle as scum. (If I remember correctly) I still don't see why we're voting for him.
What if his other mafia scummates were also newbies and didn't know that they shouldn't post "I'm confused" either? This is a newbie game after all. xD

Scum team is usually a mix of newbies and experienced players.
I wouldn't mind voting for Danielkang2, I feel like they'll try pulling the 'I'm a confused player' kind of thing and try to slide by as mafia.
I don't think he's lying tbh
 
I guess I just found it odd that you had originally posted something like that "the only thing we can really do on day 1 is go for lynching an inactive" and then you later said that that discussion isn't helping us. I thought you kinda contradicted yourself. I know it was probably that you were just realizing it but that's why I thought it was odd.

Ah ok, I'd find it weird myself. Sorry, I'm usually like this in games. {really apologetic lmao}
 
Alright. With a little more than 6 hours left, I really think we should start making a call.
Here are my suspicions so far (so sorry for the long post D: ) :

ryan88:
First, talking about no lynch at the start of the game was sorta strange. The OP directly says that we can't vote no lynch. But, he brought it up.
We should not no lynch as that gives scum another chance to kill.
But, he does say some things that contribute to the discussion.
And for day, we should get some reads first. Don't vote to early. Lets wait until we get some posts and we can decide then.
Then, he says that he is one of the most active people here. I don't think so and I'm sure other don't agree with this.
why? i'm one of the more active ones in nub mafia
He doesn't add his suspicions or anything of the sort.
This may just be his playstyle but this kind of playstyle will always put him under suspicion.
I don't think he is lynch worthy but very suspicious.

Crystal:
Gives some good advice to those who are new. But, does only posts just one-liners, which is hard to read sometimes (at least for me). And, really doesn't give her opinion on anything, except:
To be honest Id rather lynch jam or someone. I feel like if Dan was mafia his scummates would tell him what to do and not to post that he's confused.

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I'll be voting for Skaro. They bandwagoned cal and hasnt contributed very much.
Here she just votes on someone that bandwagoned. I can understand that reasoning but doesn't make it seem like its an informed decision. It almost makes me want to believe that she hasn't read most of the conversation and just voted for someone else because of a simple bandwagon. I just want to point that out, but I don't think she is lynch worthy yet.
Oh, and looking at this post:
The only person who seems suspicious to me so far is dalandanator. He's really emphasizing the fact that he's a townie. I still think we should give it more time before we lynch, though.
Skaro did have some form of opinion. So, this changes how Crystal may not have been paying attention and just calling someone out without verifying whether he had some thought on dalan in the first place. Maybe he was just too scared to post and waited for someone else to vote first. Or, he could just be bandwagoning, but for her to make a statement like that and just go with it is kinda strange.

Crazy-Gamer:
Probably forgot about this game. In the last nub game he was modkilled. So, I doubt that we will see much activity from him at all. Hopefully he doesn't have an important role.

in-a-pickle:
Also, probably forgot about this game. They have played other nub games but was much more active.

alise:
First, mentions she wants to play better this game. Even though she has played a ton of mafia games. That just seems strange to me.
There may be a jump in activity, because I want to try harder this game. ^_^
But, I don't see her contributing a lot like she has in previous mafia games. But, pretty much all her roles in previous games were townie/blue roles. So, she could be scum and not posting a lot. Or, she just doesn't have time to play this.
But, of course, it might be too early to tell at this point for her. I would keep an eye out for her.
Ah ok, I'd find it weird myself. Sorry, I'm usually like this in games. {really apologetic lmao}
Now, she is not saying much in the post at all. Like what is she trying to say in this post? Sorry but, she does seem to be scummy to me.

C a l l a w a y:
She's only made two posts the entire game. And the other was her wanting to play. She does give some good input for inactive players and newbies. But, she doesn't give her reasoning on her vote for dalan at all. Seems strange for no reasoning and if she reads this and gives a reasoning than I can understand. But, it seems very strange for her to post one thing then to vote. I'm sure she read everything based on who she voted for, but we don't see any reasoning behind it.

skaro:
Has only made two posts after 'checking in'. Then votes for dalan. He does have a post about his position on dalan.
The only person who seems suspicious to me so far is dalandanator. He's really emphasizing the fact that he's a townie. I still think we should give it more time before we lynch, though.
But, he waits another day to vote. Seems fishy that he would wait for someone else to post. But, like I said above, he could be scared and could just be bandwagoning. I can't really get a read on him though.
Plus, this is his first game so his coach might be swaying his decisions a lot (and that goes for any person who this is their first time).

Saylor:
Has made a couple good posts about who candidates are to lynch and gave some good feedback.
If crazy-gamer, callaway and in-a-pickle are busy or forgot about the game then they might get modkilled eventually so if we decide to lynch an inactive I think it should be one that's just posting the bare minimum rather than one that won't show up at all.
I think players like sharkystriker22 or Summer are better lynch candidates because they've made checking in posts so they at least know about the game and just aren't posting. They still have plenty of time to post though so I won't place my vote until time is almost out, but I'd rather not lynch someone who will likely get modkilled anyway.

Sorry if you misspelled either of those names, I'm on mobile.
But, I would like to hear more on her suspicions. She posted a lot last nub game and I hope that she keeps it up this game.

gnoixaim:
Also does post some informed candidates for lynch. Which is good. I really can't get a read on her regardless of what she is posting. Looking at previous games that she has played, and basing that on this, she could be pro-town, or just not scummy. We will have to see. No reason to lynch.

Oldcatlady:
I'm getting strange vibes from her (hopefully she is female D: ). First she posts right off the bat that she is a vanilla townie.
hi I'm townie :'D

haven't been active for the past few hours since I was moving & no wifi. I'll be reading posts now.
but I'm still on my phone. ; n ;

at least my role isn't too complicated to understand.

I've seen role claims in other mafia games
so why not.
up to you to believe me or not~
This whole posts throws me off. I don't know if other people play like this on other forums, but this is an uninformed decision. Unless, she is informed from a coach to do so, which could really mean that she is scum or the coach is horrible (no offense). But, she could be making her own calls. In which case she is putting herself in a dangerous position, and possibly a harmful decision for the town.
I posted before getting to read those posts whoops.

I never said that they normal townies were powerless. I just said that the role wasn't complicated to understand.

&& if mafia really believed that I was townie, why would they vote me off or kill me? Wouldn't they want to eliminate people with more important roles such as healers or detectives?
It's not like other people who aren't in the mafia knew what role I am for sure. I might very well be mafia to them, claiming to be a townie.
Then, she says that she didn't read everything before posting. I'm just going to point that out and leave it there. I can understand her logic in this post, the mafia getting rid of more important roles. But, there is a possibility of an SK which they could just kill that person regardless. Role claiming is never good that early and I'm going to believe that there is more to this person than meets the eye. I don't believe she is townie just yet. This is her first game also so

Danielkang2:
This whole confused thing is really not making much sense to me. We have coaches for a reason, so there should be no excuse for not understanding the game. I can understand not getting terminology like scummy and SK. But, the coach should've (doesn't mean that they would've) clarified all of that up for you. I can understand if the coach is gone a lot, then that person should not have said that they wanted to be a coach in the first place. In which case, Daniel justs needs to suck it up and do the research.
I really am confused but my coach is helping me. You can lynch me idk. But I truly am not mafia. You don't have to trust me.
And this whole post just doesn't make sense to me. Either he really is confused, in which I suggest checking out Oath's TBT Mafia Wikia, or his coach is feeding him something so that he looks confused. This makes me really want to think he is scum in some way. This is also his first game so we shall see about him.

gamora:
Hasn't really aided in the discussion at all. She has pointed some things out about SK's and modkills.
I'm p sure it's 4 skum + sk, but there might not be a sk in this game
Let's go back to TBT Newbie Mafia II- On the run
In this game the sk was listed in the op, however, there was no sk.
There was an sk in TBT newbie mafia III lol.
Actually looking back at previous nub games, tina might let the mod kills slide. On the first day of Newbie Mafia III mahou was excused from being mod killed, but the next day the people that were set to get modkilled got modkilled. I don't think we should count on this tho.
So I mean, she does have something to say. But, in terms of who to lynch, she doesn't give any type of opinion at all. Which is really strange being that she is a more experienced player.

Sumemr:
Makes informed decisions even though there is a huge lack in the amount of posts (made 2 posts so far). This could either mean that she just doesn't have time to do this all the time (like others). Or, she is scum and has to make sure she is saying the right thing without stepping her bounds. This is her first TBT mafia so she might be getting some good information from her coach, which could also mean that she is scum. I don't get those reads but that is a possibility with her. We will have to see what happens.

jambouree:
Has made three posts so far, One for wanting in, one for checking in, and one for asking if we should wait for more discussion.
Should we just wait for everyone to post a little bit before making accusations?
There has been discussion so I would like to hear what they have to say now. Worst comes to worst, he is scum and just doesn't want to post or is being advised not to post.

Zigzag991:
Hasn't said much of anything even in this post:
Guess things are starting to pick up! I have to go to the movies so I won't be back for another 3 and a half hours or so. As for lynching, I think Dalandanator is acting a little wonky, so I'll have to agree that we should keep an eye on him.
He is basically saying stuff other people have already stated. And that was yesterday. I think its time for him to post his thoughts or he might be a candidate for lynching.

dalandanator:
This is another I have major suspicions on.
There are 4 skums.. right?
First, he assumes there is four scum (which is a good assumption) but that could keep us off the trail of thinking that he doesn't know who scum is by asking about it (does that make sense?). Which I mean, could just mean that he is scum, or just wanted to post about that. This just seems scummy to me.
so.. hi guys who's towni
Then, he asks who is townie about a day later at the same time. I don't know if that means anything but asking that does seem really fishy. After asking about scums, then townies... Leads me to believe he is trying to track people down. He doesn't ask about blue roles and just haphazardly posts about there being a serial killer, but there is no guarantee that there is an SK. (He could a an SK for all we know).
There's a serial killer
probably cause' I'm powerless townie who has to fear for his life coz lack of ability
Here he talks about a powerless townie. All coaches will tell you that vanilla townies are not useless at all, which probably his own ideas about town. And saying this only leads me to believe that he is scum. He says a ton before this post then, says he has a lack of ability. He's got to be putting up a face to try and lead the town astray.
Yeah almost seems like she's trying to make us passover them and vote somebody else, maybe they are scum?
And here, he adds in a little comment to try to put the scum title on someone else. For whatever reason, I feel that he is putting the blame on someone else to try and keep himself out of the scum scene. When reading this, I completely get a scummy vibe from this post.
4 scum confirmed. Tinfoil hats out boys
Another reason why he would want to draw attention away from himself.
Found the reason why I'm probably getting voted, skaro is most likely skum since she just voted me also for no apparent reason.

I was the first person to actually do something aside from "checking in" or "asking for people to contribute" and you give me this? what the balls man that's pretty skummy. Also, if I were mafia I wouldn't want to draw attention to myself by doing what I did.
Another claim with really no evidence against Skaro. Along with a statement saying that he doesn't want attention, but all he has been doing is getting attention by asking uninformed statements and comments. If anything, Dalan is our best bet right now.

sharkystriker22:
Hasn't said a word. But has checked in. Maybe a long weekend?

Cherry-Blossoms and Kawaii Cupcakes:
Both wanted to join, they are in and haven't posted anything. Maybe they forgot, but how could they forget so soon when they were the last two to enroll. Just a thought.




Well those are my notes on everyone. Hopefully this clarifies things.
For now, I would be looking into Dalan a little bit more and go from there.
 
alise:
First, mentions she wants to play better this game. Even though she has played a ton of mafia games. That just seems strange to me.

But, I don't see her contributing a lot like she has in previous mafia games. But, pretty much all her roles in previous games were townie/blue roles. So, she could be scum and not posting a lot. Or, she just doesn't have time to play this.
But, of course, it might be too early to tell at this point for her. I would keep an eye out for her.

Now, she is not saying much in the post at all. Like what is she trying to say in this post? Sorry but, she does seem to be scummy to me.
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Just because I said I want to 'play better' = scummy? Seriously? Also, just because I played lots of games does not mean I am good at them? What even? I said in multiple games I want to improve.

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Thats the reason why I joined Nub in the first place. :rolleyes:
 
dalandanator:
This is another I have major suspicions on.

First, he assumes there is four scum (which is a good assumption) but that could keep us off the trail of thinking that he doesn't know who scum is by asking about it (does that make sense?). Which I mean, could just mean that he is scum, or just wanted to post about that. This just seems scummy to me.

Then, he asks who is townie about a day later at the same time. I don't know if that means anything but asking that does seem really fishy. After asking about scums, then townies... Leads me to believe he is trying to track people down. He doesn't ask about blue roles and just haphazardly posts about there being a serial killer, but there is no guarantee that there is an SK. (He could a an SK for all we know).


Here he talks about a powerless townie. All coaches will tell you that vanilla townies are not useless at all, which probably his own ideas about town. And saying this only leads me to believe that he is scum. He says a ton before this post then, says he has a lack of ability. He's got to be putting up a face to try and lead the town astray.

And here, he adds in a little comment to try to put the scum title on someone else. For whatever reason, I feel that he is putting the blame on someone else to try and keep himself out of the scum scene. When reading this, I completely get a scummy vibe from this post.

Another reason why he would want to draw attention away from himself.

Another claim with really no evidence against Skaro. Along with a statement saying that he doesn't want attention, but all he has been doing is getting attention by asking uninformed statements and comments. If anything, Dalan is our best bet right now.
1. I went to the previous nub mafias and found out that there are always the same number of mafias: 4.
Now, if we knew the max number of mafias there could be, we can narrow down our suspicions to 4 people, those being the scummiest of the lot.

2. That was just me being bored and trying to move things along. Since nobody would talk might as well say something. TIL don't be talkative in mafia.

3. I said powerless because I found it boring that I can only help by day, and at night I'm just a sitting duck. How am I leading the town astray? Literally doing everything I can to weed out the mafia.

4. I put that there because some people don't read the op. Did you know it was updated?

5. Did you see skaro post anything as to why I should be lynched before voting for me? No? Alright. I'm getting attention because I am not mafia, also please tell me where I can find informed fountain of knowledge, because as far as I know this game is "the informed minority vs the uninformed majority"
 
Ah ok, I'd find it weird myself. Sorry, I'm usually like this in games. {really apologetic lmao}
Heh I am too, that's what I'd like to improve on.


I missed a couple pages so I'm gonna go back and read everything plus Axeler's post and then post my thoughts from there.
 
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Just because I said I want to 'play better' = scummy? Seriously? Also, just because I played lots of games does not mean I am good at them? What even? I said in multiple games I want to improve.

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Thats the reason why I joined Nub in the first place. :rolleyes:

All I'm saying for someone who wants to improve, you are not contributing much at all.
Plus, I'm sure you know something since you have played so many games.
 
1. I went to the previous nub mafias and found out that there are always the same number of mafias: 4.
Now, if we knew the max number of mafias there could be, we can narrow down our suspicions to 4 people, those being the scummiest of the lot.

2. That was just me being bored and trying to move things along. Since nobody would talk might as well say something. TIL don't be talkative in mafia.

3. I said powerless because I found it boring that I can only help by day, and at night I'm just a sitting duck. How am I leading the town astray? Literally doing everything I can to weed out the mafia.

4. I put that there because some people don't read the op. Did you know it was updated?

5. Did you see skaro post anything as to why I should be lynched before voting for me? No? Alright. I'm getting attention because I am not mafia, also please tell me where I can find informed fountain of knowledge, because as far as I know this game is "the informed minority vs the uninformed majority"

No, you want to be talkative in mafia - but the way you're doing it ... it's basically spam. If you're truly "just a townie" then maybe you need to bring things to the table, like how Axel did.

And please explain to me how your'e doing everything you can to weed out mafia? When you've posted nothing but 1 liners before you were called out.

so.. hi guys who's towni

probably cause' I'm powerless townie who has to fear for his life coz lack of ability

28 hours has passed already and they still haven't posted. Wat do

Yeah almost seems like she's trying to make us passover them and vote somebody else, maybe they are scum?

4 scum confirmed. Tinfoil hats out boys
 
All I'm saying for someone who wants to improve, you are not contributing much at all.
Plus, I'm sure you know something since you have played so many games.

What can I contribute? It's Day 1. I've tried my best.

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Honestly, I think Dalan is just a bored townie. |=
 
1. I went to the previous nub mafias and found out that there are always the same number of mafias: 4.
Now, if we knew the max number of mafias there could be, we can narrow down our suspicions to 4 people, those being the scummiest of the lot.

2. That was just me being bored and trying to move things along. Since nobody would talk might as well say something. TIL don't be talkative in mafia.

3. I said powerless because I found it boring that I can only help by day, and at night I'm just a sitting duck. How am I leading the town astray? Literally doing everything I can to weed out the mafia.

4. I put that there because some people don't read the op. Did you know it was updated?

5. Did you see skaro post anything as to why I should be lynched before voting for me? No? Alright. I'm getting attention because I am not mafia, also please tell me where I can find informed fountain of knowledge, because as far as I know this game is "the informed minority vs the uninformed majority"

1. Then why ask about it?
2. Being bored has nothing to do with this game. Plus, if you say something, it might be taken the wrong way. Try not to just say something.
3. I don't see why you would call yourself powerless because you're bored. That doesn't make much sense.
4. Of course. You have to read everything to make sure you understand everything. And, it doesn't seem like you are trying to inform others in your posts. Just saying stuff.
5. The post is right here:
The only person who seems suspicious to me so far is dalandanator. He's really emphasizing the fact that he's a townie. I still think we should give it more time before we lynch, though.
Though its not much, he did mention something.

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What can I contribute? It's Day 1. I've tried my best.

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Honestly, I think Dalan is just a bored townie. |=

Another reason why I think you and Dalan are both scum.

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If you want to contribute something, tell me who we should lynch.
 
gamora:
Hasn't really aided in the discussion at all. She has pointed some things out about SK's and modkills.

So I mean, she does have something to say. But, in terms of who to lynch, she doesn't give any type of opinion at all. Which is really strange being that she is a more experienced player.

I'm not an experienced player lol, I thought it was too early to make a lynch post, but since there's only 5 hours left I'll make one. Gotta eat first though.
 
No, you want to be talkative in mafia - but the way you're doing it ... it's basically spam. If you're truly "just a townie" then maybe you need to bring things to the table, like how Axel did.

And please explain to me how your'e doing everything you can to weed out mafia? When you've posted nothing but 1 liners before you were called out.

I really didn't know what to do initially and thought it would be a good way to pass time so.. sorry for the spam. I can't prove that I'm a townie since all of my posts seem to be interpreted as mafia-ish. You guys do have more experience so it would've been better if I had kept my mouth shut.

It is also 2 am where I'm currently at, so sorry if I miss some things.

tl;dr pls no lynch, will kepp mout shut
 
1. Then why ask about it?
2. Being bored has nothing to do with this game. Plus, if you say something, it might be taken the wrong way. Try not to just say something.
3. I don't see why you would call yourself powerless because you're bored. That doesn't make much sense.
4. Of course. You have to read everything to make sure you understand everything. And, it doesn't seem like you are trying to inform others in your posts. Just saying stuff.
5. The post is right here:

Though its not much, he did mention something.

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Another reason why I think you and Dalan are both scum.

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If you want to contribute something, tell me who we should lynch.

Um? Did you NOT read any of my posts? I dismissed my lynch thoughts because it was most likely they would be MODKILLED.

Dalan's playstyle reminds me of my old jokey playstyle, so..
 
I really didn't know what to do initially and thought it would be a good way to pass time so.. sorry for the spam. I can't prove that I'm a townie since all of my posts seem to be interpreted as mafia-ish. You guys do have more experience so it would've been better if I had kept my mouth shut.

It is also 2 am where I'm currently at, so sorry if I miss some things.

tl;dr pls no lynch, will kepp mout shut
Its imposible to no lynch.
 
1. Then why ask about it?
2. Being bored has nothing to do with this game. Plus, if you say something, it might be taken the wrong way. Try not to just say something.
3. I don't see why you would call yourself powerless because you're bored. That doesn't make much sense.
4. Of course. You have to read everything to make sure you understand everything. And, it doesn't seem like you are trying to inform others in your posts. Just saying stuff.
5. The post is right here:

Though its not much, he did mention something.

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Another reason why I think you and Dalan are both scum.

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If you want to contribute something, tell me who we should lynch.

Um? Did you NOT read any of my posts? I dismissed my lynch thoughts because it was most likely they would be MODKILLED.

Dalan's playstyle reminds me of my old jokey playstyle, so..
 
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