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Zelda Timeline

Tyeforce said:
Rawburt said:
Tyeforce said:
John102 said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepconfirmed. It exists. You can't argue with it. Well, you can, but you'd lose.
Yeah, but Ganondorf is like in every gamee, don;t you think he'd be dead by ]Ah, but that's where you're wrong.

In OoT, we see the first Ganondorf. He steals the Triforce, transforms into Ganon, is defeated by Link, and is sealed in the Sacred Realm by the Seven Sages at the end of OoT, which is the Adult Timeline. He then manages to escape the Sages' seal in TWW's backstory, and a new Link defeats him, stabbing the Master Sword through his head and turning him to stone, leaving him to drown with ancient Hyrule. He doesn't return in PH and ST, so we can skip to the Child Timeline now.

Now, when Zelda sends Link back seven years at the end of OoT, Link warns the king about Ganondorf's evil plans, and Ganondorf is arrested. The Ancient Sages attempt to execute him, but fail, so they seal him in the Twilight Realm. This is shown in TP's backstory. The young Hero of Time then travels to Termina in MM, but that's an alternate dimension and there's reappearance of Ganondorf, so we can skip this game. Then comes TP, in which we see Zant rise to power, under the command of Ganondorf from the Twilight Realm. Ganondorf and Zant spread the Twilight Curtain throughout Hyrule, but a new Link stops them, and kills Ganondorf with the Master Sword.

Now...this is where things get a little foggy. I put LoZ/AoL after TP in my timeline, but we have a problem here. Ganondorf dies in TP, but he is alive and well as Ganon in LoZ. So, the question is, how does he come back? Well, all I can say is...somehow. No matter where you put LoZ/AoL, you're always going to have a problem with Ganon. He's died 5 times in 5 different games. One of which he was revived right beforehand, so we can skip that one. So know we have 4 instances where Ganon/dorf has died. LoZ, ALttP, TWW, and TP. We already know that TWW and TP are on different timelines, and ALttP features a new Ganondorf introduced in FSA who becomes Ganon (I'll explain this in a minute), so that explains those three. But that leaves LoZ. No matter where you put it, you're gonna have a Ganon conflict. It's unavoidable. I placed LoZ/AoL after TP in my timeline because I feel that it's the most logical place for it to go, and I'll explain why in the video. So you just have to accept that Ganon was somehow revived. Not that big of a deal. Anyway, moving onward.

Yet another new hero appears in LoZ. He kills Ganon, takes the stolen Triforce of Power, and reunites the separated Triforce of Wisdom. The same Link then goes on to claim the Triforce of Courage in AoL, but again there's no Ganon, so we can skip ahead. Next in my timeline we have the Oracle games, commonly referred to as OoX by the Zelda community. In the linked ending of OoX, Twinrova manage to partly revive Ganon. They give him the Trident of Power, which, if you believe the common theory, becomes linked to Ganon's soul. Link kills the revived Ganon, and that's the last we see of him...for now.

Next comes TMC and FS, neither of which feature Ganon. After FS comes FSA, and here we see Ganon yet again. However, it's different this time. FSA's backstory tells of a Gerudo thief named Ganondorf who steals the Triforce of Power and becomes Ganon. Now, from FSA's backstory, it's obvious that the Ganondorf in FSA is clearly a different Ganondorf than the one first shown in OoT. This new Gerudo King steals the Trident of Power and becomes the "ancient demon reborn", Ganon. What happened was, when Twinrova revived Ganon in OoX, his soul was linked to the Trident of Power. When the new Ganondorf stole it, he awakened the original Ganon's soul and became him. That's why we don't see Ganondorf anymore after FSA, just Ganon. Anyway, yet another Link defeats him, and the Seven Maidens seal him in the Four Sword, which is in turn sealed in the Sacred Realm, as we see in the GBA version of ALttP. This becomes the backstory of ALttP, which comes after. It is implied that Ganon broke out of the Four Sword in GBA ALttP, and is then killed by another Link at the end of ALttP. The last game on this timeline, LA, is a direct sequel to ALttP, and doesn't feature Ganon. So, Ganon is killed for good in ALttP.

Now do you understand?
Duuuuude, come on man. You're gonna paste freaking Zelda history and expect people to actually read it?
It's their loss if they chose not to read it.
Yeah, because Zelda continuity is really important right? Thanks for showing us what's really important. ;D
 
AleZ said:
Tyeforce said:
coffeebean! said:
Tyeforce said:
Gnome said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
I was talking to Alecks, not you.
*gives tampon*
>_>

There's too much to explain why TMC shouldn't come first. Unless you want another wall of text from me, that is. If he can tell me the reasons why he thinks TMC comes first, then I only have to address those particular reasons, not all of them.
For one thing, you use the Picori Blade to defeat whatshisface [forgot]. The Master Sword was crafted as the bane of evil, so wouldn't you have the MS first?

[not tl;dr post]
No, because the Master Sword was created to protect the Triforce, as shown in ALttP. The Triforce isn't even mentioned in TMC's plot (although we know it exists, because it's clearly on Zelda's dress), so there is no need for the Master Sword. The Picori Blade/White Sword/Four Sword is used in the Four Sword series because the Triforce isn't part of the plot. Besides, if Link already has a sword that will defeat his enemy, why go to the trouble of getting another? Anyway, the absence of the Master Sword in no way proves that TMC should come before OoT. The Master Sword isn't in LoZ, AoL, LA, MM, FS, FSA, PH, and ST, but that certainly doesn't make them go before OoT. Link can use other swords. Unless it's absolutely essential to the plot, the Master Sword isn't needed, so it doesn't need to appear at all.
 
Tyeforce said:
AleZ said:
Tyeforce said:
coffeebean! said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
*gives tampon*
>_>

There's too much to explain why TMC shouldn't come first. Unless you want another wall of text from me, that is. If he can tell me the reasons why he thinks TMC comes first, then I only have to address those particular reasons, not all of them.
For one thing, you use the Picori Blade to defeat whatshisface [forgot]. The Master Sword was crafted as the bane of evil, so wouldn't you have the MS first?

[not tl;dr post]
No, because the Master Sword was created to protect the Triforce, as shown in ALttP. The Triforce isn't even mentioned in TMC's plot (although we know it exists, because it's clearly on Zelda's dress), so there is no need for the Master Sword. The Picori Blade/White Sword/Four Sword is used in the Four Sword series because the Triforce isn't part of the plot. Besides, if ]I do believe it IS in PH.

And TP said it is the bane of evil. I thought the Triforce is in Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf.
 
Megamannt125 said:
Thing about MC, it can go just about anywhere, the absence of ganon lets it fit anywhere before FS.
FS?

aaand the Picori and Minish Cap are 1 time things, so I sense a sequel.
 
AleZ said:
Megamannt125 said:
Thing about MC, it can go just about anywhere, the absence of ganon lets it fit anywhere before FS.
FS?

aaand the Picori and Minish Cap are 1 time things, so I sense a sequel.
FS is Four Sword Adventures
 
AleZ said:
Tyeforce said:
AleZ said:
Tyeforce said:
coffeebean! said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
>_>

There's too much to explain why TMC shouldn't come first. Unless you want another wall of text from me, that is. If he can tell me the reasons why he thinks TMC comes first, then I only have to address those particular reasons, not all of them.
For one thing, you use the Picori Blade to defeat whatshisface [forgot]. The Master Sword was crafted as the bane of evil, so wouldn't you have the MS first?

[not tl;dr post]
No, because the Master Sword was created to protect the Triforce, as shown in ALttP. The Triforce isn't even mentioned in TMC's plot (although we know it exists, because it's clearly on Zelda's dress), so there is no need for the Master Sword. The Picori Blade/White Sword/Four Sword is used in the Four Sword series because the Triforce isn't part of the plot. Besides, if ]I do believe it IS in PH.

And TP said it is the bane of evil. I thought the Triforce is in Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf.
No, it's not in Phantom Hourglass. That's the Phantom Sword.


Yes, the Master Sword is the Sword of Evil's Bane, but it's not the only sword that can defeat evil.
 
Megamannt125 said:
AleZ said:
Megamannt125 said:
Thing about MC, it can go just about anywhere, the absence of ganon lets it fit anywhere before FS.
FS?

aaand the Picori and Minish Cap are 1 time things, so I sense a sequel.
Four Swords, the sequal to MC.
oops scratch sequel remark

Never finished it, too much GTA as a kid distracted me.
 
Tyeforce said:
AleZ said:
Tyeforce said:
AleZ said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepall of them.
For one thing, you use the Picori Blade to defeat whatshisface [forgot]. The Master Sword was crafted as the bane of evil, so wouldn't you have the MS first?

[not tl;dr post]
No, because the Master Sword was created to protect the Triforce, as shown in ALttP. The Triforce isn't even mentioned in TMC's plot (although we know it exists, because it's clearly on Zelda's dress), so there is no need for the Master Sword. The Picori Blade/White Sword/Four Sword is used in the Four Sword series because the Triforce isn't part of the plot. Besides, if ]I do believe it IS in PH.

And TP said it is the bane of evil. I thought the Triforce is in Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf.
No, it's not in Phantom Hourglass. That's the Phantom Sword.


Yes, the Master Sword is the Sword of Evil's Bane, but it's not the only sword that can defeat evil.
What else is used, other then MS, PS, and Picori Sword?
 
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