Your opinion of the FBI may be charging Clinton?

[Red Cat]

We can't go back to that era, trump can't take away woman's rights, and yes woman weren't payed as much back then but now it's different that's why we have the 19th amendment clearly stating how woman can vote, and I'm not supporting Clinton for woman's rights, as that dosent do anything for me whatsoever.

Women can vote, but technically the Constitution doesn't give them any other rights. The Equal Rights Amendment was never passed. No one makes extremely obvious attempts to discriminate against women because it's political suicide and it's possible the courts would overturn any law based on the 14th amendment, but there are a lot of subtle and some not so subtle attempts to roll back women's rights because there is nothing in the Constitution which explicitly makes that illegal. So it's possible Trump actually could take away women's rights if he is elected.

 

[nintendofan85]

I'm not saying bill Clinton was bad, he was very average, he didn't really accomplish anything, but I don't know much about bill Clinton so I can't say much

If a budget surplus isn't an achievement I don't know what is.

 

[oath2order]

but I don't know much about bill Clinton

That explains a lot.

 

[Jared:3]

Even if Trump can't take away women's rights, it still bothers me that he said that the United States hasn't been great since an era when women, African Americans, and the LGBT community all had a very minimal amount of rights. And how was Bill Clinton a bad president? The economy grew by over 4% in the late 1990s and a budget surplus even began in 1998 and it came to an end in 2002 because George W. Bush had to fund the war in Afghanistan and was beginning preparations for the invasion of Iraq, which in my opinion was a completely unnecessary war.

I never said Clinton was bad but 4% isn't really an accomplishment, I'm just saying he was average, and George w bush wasn't a good president like I said i don't know much about woman's rights or really anything about bill clinton

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That explains a lot.

Then maybe you can explain why he's a good president if you know so much

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If a budget surplus isn't an achievement I don't know what is.

It's just 4% isn't an accomplishment compared to what other presidents have done in the past

 

[nintendofan85]

I never said Clinton was bad but 4% isn't really an accomplishment, I'm just saying he was average, and George w bush wasn't a good president like I said i don't know much about woman's rights or really anything about bill clinton

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Then maybe you can explain why he's a good president if you know so much

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It's just 4% isn't an accomplishment compared to what other presidents have done in the past

Actually, it is. Beginning in 1973, during the administration of Richard Nixon, the U.S. economy kept doing poorly, and during all administrations from Richard Nixon's to Jimmy Carter's the economy was experiencing stagflation. The energy crises that occurred in both 1973 and 1979 only exacerbated the recessions. Finally, during the middle of Ronald Reagan's administration in the mid-1980s the economy began doing well again, but then that all came to an end soon afterward with the early 1990s recession. Bill Clinton managed to effectively end the early 1990s recession and make the economy do well again. Plus, the economy never grew by 4% during the administrations of George W. Bush or Barack Obama.

 

[oath2order]

I never said Clinton was bad but 4% isn't really an accomplishment, I'm just saying he was average, and George w bush wasn't a good president like I said i don't know much about woman's rights or really anything about bill clinton

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Then maybe you can explain why he's a good president if you know so much

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It's just 4% isn't an accomplishment compared to what other presidents have done in the past

Considering that we've been running a deficit, yes, a 4% surplus is an accomplishment.

Unemployment dropped from 7.5% to 4.0% by the end of his second term.

Crime was at a 26 year low by the end of his term.

He banned assault weapons, signed a bill requiring a waiting period and background check for handguns, and resulted in a 40% decline in gun crime by 2001.

The poverty rate near the end of his term was 11.8%, lowest it had been since 1979.

 

[Jared:3]

Actually, it is. Beginning in 1973, during the administration of Richard Nixon, the U.S. economy kept doing poorly, and during all administrations from Richard Nixon's to Jimmy Carter's the economy was experiencing stagflation. The energy crises that occurred in both 1973 and 1979 only exacerbated the recessions. Finally, during the middle of Ronald Reagan's administration in the mid-1980s the economy began doing well again, but then that all came to an end soon afterward with the early 1990s recession. Bill Clinton managed to effectively end the early 1990s recession and make the economy do well again. Plus, the economy never grew by 4% during the administrations of George W. Bush or Barack Obama.

Ok but what does this have to do with hillary? Just because her husband did well, does not mean she will, I can't see her doing anything right, the economy now is worse than ever, and our military is a huge issue, and hillary has no intentions to fix these issues but all she talks about is woman's rights which is great and all for woman but in the end that won't really do anything

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Considering that we've been running a deficit, yes, a 4% surplus is an accomplishment.

Unemployment dropped from 7.5% to 4.0% by the end of his second term.

Crime was at a 26 year low by the end of his term.

He banned assault weapons, signed a bill requiring a waiting period and background check for handguns, and resulted in a 40% decline in gun crime by 2001.

The poverty rate near the end of his term was 11.8%, lowest it had been since 1979.

Ok thanks for the info

 

[oath2order]

That's right, our military is an issue. We should stop ****ing around in other countries.

 

[Jared:3]

That's right, our military is an issue. We should stop ****ing around in other countries.

I very much agree, this Isis bull crap isn't worth it

 

[nintendofan85]

Ok but what does this have to do with hillary? Just because her husband did well, does not mean she will, I can't see her doing anything right, the economy now is worse than ever, and our military is a huge issue, and hillary has no intentions to fix these issues but all she talks about is woman's rights which is great and all for woman but in the end that won't really do anything

I see your point and I myself don't think she'd do as well as her husband. However, she is running a campaign based on nostalgia for her husband's administration (she has in fact mentioned his economic record) and I just hope that the good feelings people had in the 1990s can return. 9/11 and the Great Recession are the reasons why George W. Bush and Barack Obama (especially George W. Bush) both were unable to revive the Clinton-era optimism and I believe if that if she takes some pointers from him (and she will, remember, you "get two for the price of one", just like when Bill Clinton first ran for president in 1992), at least some of it can come back. That's my hope. Trump isn't going to make anyone feel optimistic, in my opinion. A lot of Trump's supporters believe that the optimism many Americans had during the Reagan administration will come back, but Donald Trump isn't Ronald Reagan. In fact, Donald Trump was actually a Democrat during most of Reagan's administration, and he's switched parties countless times since 1987.

 

[Bowie]

She's a liar, she's manipulative, and she's changed many of her opinions just to keep hip with the kids and gain more supporters ("Delete your account.") I can't trust her as far as I could throw her and, as bad as Trump is, I think Trump is intelligent and I think he's said all these things just to prove a point about how dumb we all are to vote for him. If he was really as dumb as that, he wouldn't have made it into politics at all.

 

[Red Cat]

I see your point and I myself don't think she'd do as well as her husband. However, she is running a campaign based on nostalgia for her husband's administration (she has in fact mention his economic record) and I just hope that the good feelings people had in the 1990s can return. 9/11 and the Great Recession are the reasons why George W. Bush and Barack Obama (especially George W. Bush) both were unable to revive the Clinton-era optimism and I believe if that if she takes some pointers from him (and she will, remember, you "get two for the price of one", just like when Bill Clinton first ran for president in 1992), at least some of it can come back. That's my hope. Trump isn't going to make anyone feel optimistic, in my opinion. A lot of Trump's supporters believe that the optimism many Americans had during the Reagan administration will come back, but Donald Trump isn't Ronald Reagan. In fact, Donald Trump was actually a Democrat during most of Reagan's administration, and he's switched parties countless times since 1987.

I feel like people's nostalgia for the past depends on who they are. If you are a straight, white, male then doing the time warp back to the 90's sounds cool, but if you are non-white, female, or an LGBT individual, then you are much less likely to romanticize that decade. Bill Clinton signed a number of bad laws including the Defense of Marriage Act, Don't Ask Don't Tell, "Welfare Reform", and the crime bill which disproportionately harmed minorities. The main reason people don't talk about that stuff as much is because a lot of that stuff was undone during Obama's presidency. The economic pie has gotten larger since the 90's, but it seems smaller because it has to be cut into more slices now that fewer people are being marginalized. Even after Bush took a sledgehammer to the economy during his presidency, people decided to go in a new direction in 2008 instead of going back to the Clintons, and I think we have seen a lot more social progress because of that decision than we would have seen if Hillary Clinton were chosen back then. During this primary, she has tried to be more like Obama and less like Bill for a reason and it seems to have worked.

 

[nintendofan85]

I feel like people's nostalgia for the past depends on who they are. If you are a straight, white, male then doing the time warp back to the 90's sounds cool, but if you are non-white, female, or an LGBT individual, then you are much less likely to romanticize that decade. Bill Clinton signed a number of bad laws including the Defense of Marriage Act, Don't Ask Don't Tell, "Welfare Reform", and the crime bill which disproportionately harmed minorities. The main reason people don't talk about that stuff as much is because a lot of that stuff was undone during Obama's presidency. The economic pie has gotten larger since the 90's, but it seems smaller because it has to be cut into more slices now that fewer people are being marginalized. Even after Bush took a sledgehammer to the economy during his presidency, people decided to go in a new direction in 2008 instead of going back to the Clintons, and I think we have seen a lot more social progress because of that decision than we would have seen if Hillary Clinton were chosen back then. During this primary, she has tried to be more like Obama and less like Bill for a reason and it seems to have worked.

That is true, but I feel like people were just in general more optimistic then. For one thing, the debt-to-GDP ratio actually got lower when Clinton was president unlike the Bush and Obama administrations.

 

[f11]

She should but she has the whole government wrapped around her finger I doubt she'd be charged or arrested.

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She's a liar, she's manipulative, and she's changed many of her opinions just to keep hip with the kids and gain more supporters ("Delete your account.") I can't trust her as far as I could throw her and, as bad as Trump is, I think Trump is intelligent and I think he's said all these things just to prove a point about how dumb we all are to vote for him. If he was really as dumb as that, he wouldn't have made it into politics at all.

dude ur not even American pls be calm

 

[Red Cat]

She should but she has the whole government wrapped around her finger

And Trump has all of his money wrapped around his tiny hands.

 

[LambdaDelta]

I think Trump is intelligent and I think he's said all these things just to prove a point about how dumb we all are to vote for him.

tbh I'm completely positive you're giving him far too much credit

If he was really as dumb as that, he wouldn't have made it into politics at all.

well it's not like modern American politics has been a beacon of intelligence to begin with

 

[visibleghost]

I hope she gets out of the race, if she goes to jail Bernie has a chance, I would vote for him! Hillary sucks, what a lier she is

aren't you like 13 pretty sure you can't vote..?

but if she does get locked up or w/e and someone else gets to be the candidate for the democrats i'll be happy lmao.

 

[Jared:3]

aren't you like 13 pretty sure you can't vote..?

but if she does get locked up or w/e and someone else gets to be the candidate for the democrats i'll be happy lmao.

I don't mean like literally vote for him, it's just Bernie is way better than Clinton I would be just as happy as you

 

[visibleghost]

I don't mean like literally vote for him, it's just Bernie is way better than Clinton I would be just as happy as you

oh yah okay then
i agree lol.

 

[N e s s]

Yeah the 1950's was a very good era, and I'm not a woman so I wouldn't mind

God damn this pissed me off, you uneducated swine.