Petitions were funny, I hope they add them back! Actually I really love NH cause I'm a lot into decorating and online play (it's so easy to visit other islands with dodo codes), but I miss some stuff like villagers visiting you etc. And please nerf the bugs dialog of lazys :s
why does this game feel so incomplete?
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moon_child
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I’m also probably in the minority here but the wallpapers / floorings / furniture in NH are way classier in my opinion. We might not have a lot of those series furnitures available in NL but to me, the NH ones are more or less more practical to use in the house. I hated almost all NL sets except for maybe the Alpine and Rococo ones. The rest of the NL sets are just so tacky and childish I would never put them on my own house to decorate because they look so garish. The ones in NH, though limited and sometimes basic, are easier on the eyes, more practical, sophisticated and good enough for me to decorate my house with.
toadsworthy
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Lol if they released everything from day 1, so many people would've hacked, TT, or whatever to just collect everything and it would have sort of ruined the game imo. I agree there is a lack of furniture but I don't think its a big enough deal or soils the actual game. I think we should expect the slow introduction of more furniture/ villager conversations/ and other content over time which is more pleasing to me than dropping a collectithon from day 1.
Wait, let me stop you there, as this is wrong information, NL had 72 bugs and fish while NH has 80
I'm a new AC player, never played any of the previous games. I really enjoy the game, there's so much to do everyday and don't miss anything, I'll just be glad if anything new comes along. Maybe try not comparing it so much to the other ones and enjoy it for what it is?
Noel_in_Sunrise
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Oh, I can't believe I forgot to mention the biggest reason that it feels incomplete to me! Nook's store only has one upgrade!
I know people say that it is okay for things to be missing because the game is releasing in chunks, but without a roadmap for where the game is going, it is so hard to know if it will ever feel complete. I wish Nintendo gave us an idea of what they are planning.
I know people say that it is okay for things to be missing because the game is releasing in chunks, but without a roadmap for where the game is going, it is so hard to know if it will ever feel complete. I wish Nintendo gave us an idea of what they are planning.
In that furnishings count are multiple colors of an item considered unique items? Because that changes things significantly. There are far fewer unique furniture sets in this game.
Regarding the predictability of the dialogue, it is definitely a bit more one-note from my experience, at least for the initial dialog of the day. And certain things seem to be very repetitive. I know that Peppies are always going to say that they will eat a piece of fruit that you gift them so fast that it will be RUDE. And Lazies are going to eat their fruit with the bugs. Always. (They're always talking about bugs instead of napping, eating, comic books, and playtime, in general.) If you talk to a villager more than twice in one day, they throw you attitude about it (especially uchis) so probably a lot of people stop trying to talk to them after that. It's only after the third time that more flavorful conversation starts to happen. Also, the more you build your friendship level with them, the more opportunities you will get for missions and other sorts of interactions. But the baseline dialog, the stuff that happens when you talk to them once or twice a day, is very repetititve. Buongiorno. That's Italian for you're going to have a good giorno.
can everyone stop romanticizing new leaf lmao yeah it was fun but when you finished your town and unlocked everything it was so boring, not to mention how you:
- couldn’t put furniture anywhere outdoors, it all had to be done with pwps and there weren’t enough of them and a lot of them were weird. remember that giant boot and the weird spinny globe?
- yeah there was more furniture but all of it was basically living room/bedroom furniture! there was no variety because none of it was meant to go outdoors. in this game there are less indoor furniture sets but so many different types of things to make so many different types of cool areas!
- couldn’t choose where your villagers went so you constantly had to worry about someone plopping their house directly on top of everything you’d created
- had to play basically every day or else risk your dreamies moving away without telling you
- couldn’t craft anything so you had to bring everything to cyrus to customize and tbh most of the available patterns left a lot to be desired
- couldn’t hold more than 16 items (including tools) without using your letter slots, and then you couldn’t take out new letters til you cleared those slots
- couldn’t use the tool ring or the wardrobe screens we have now, so you had to cycle though EVERY tool to get to the one you wanted and when you wanted to change your clothes you had to scroll through your tiny storage and try to remember what an item looked like, then put it in your probably full pockets, then drag it onto you to wear it, only to realize it doesn’t match like you thought so back to square 1.
like i loved new leaf and got really deep into it but it had so many flaws and it got so boring once you unlocked everything and was so stressful because there was always a chance of losing a favorite villager. new horizons is so much better and so much more chill and so much nicer done, PLUS we’re getting all these updates throughout the year to add EVEN MORE stuff.
not saying it’s wrong to feel like it’s incomplete right now since i mean technically it is, they haven’t released everything yet that they plan to give us. but don’t sit here and say new leaf was so much better when it was literally not. the people who think that can just go back to the tiny screens and blocky fuzzy pixelated graphics that they love so much lmao and the rest of us will enjoy this pretty, peaceful game as it comes out.
- couldn’t put furniture anywhere outdoors, it all had to be done with pwps and there weren’t enough of them and a lot of them were weird. remember that giant boot and the weird spinny globe?
- yeah there was more furniture but all of it was basically living room/bedroom furniture! there was no variety because none of it was meant to go outdoors. in this game there are less indoor furniture sets but so many different types of things to make so many different types of cool areas!
- couldn’t choose where your villagers went so you constantly had to worry about someone plopping their house directly on top of everything you’d created
- had to play basically every day or else risk your dreamies moving away without telling you
- couldn’t craft anything so you had to bring everything to cyrus to customize and tbh most of the available patterns left a lot to be desired
- couldn’t hold more than 16 items (including tools) without using your letter slots, and then you couldn’t take out new letters til you cleared those slots
- couldn’t use the tool ring or the wardrobe screens we have now, so you had to cycle though EVERY tool to get to the one you wanted and when you wanted to change your clothes you had to scroll through your tiny storage and try to remember what an item looked like, then put it in your probably full pockets, then drag it onto you to wear it, only to realize it doesn’t match like you thought so back to square 1.
like i loved new leaf and got really deep into it but it had so many flaws and it got so boring once you unlocked everything and was so stressful because there was always a chance of losing a favorite villager. new horizons is so much better and so much more chill and so much nicer done, PLUS we’re getting all these updates throughout the year to add EVEN MORE stuff.
not saying it’s wrong to feel like it’s incomplete right now since i mean technically it is, they haven’t released everything yet that they plan to give us. but don’t sit here and say new leaf was so much better when it was literally not. the people who think that can just go back to the tiny screens and blocky fuzzy pixelated graphics that they love so much lmao and the rest of us will enjoy this pretty, peaceful game as it comes out.
No, that doesn't count the multiple colors of an item as unique items. VillagerDB has one entry per item, like the in-game catalog, and the color variations are part of that. If you search "Indoor/outdoor furniture" with the filter to only show New Horizons items, you get 1069 unique items. (If they were counted separately, the number would be higher than from NL but I don't think that's a fair comparison since many NL items could be customized to be different colors but only counted as one item). The total furniture difference is about 200 items.
Many series/sets from previous games are gone, that's true (like the modern series, which I always hated), or partially subsumed into a different color variation (like the green and blue series being customization options of the wood DIY furniture), or sort-of-but-differently represented (cute taking over for lovely, rattan for cabana, and the log DIYs for the cabin series, with the individual items in the new series varying from the originals).
The gap between the furniture items is not as large as people make it out to be, though I understand that's driven by the fact that they totally overhauled the furniture available. I'd be interested to see an item-by-item comparison of NL to NH items but I don't have that kind of time lol.
There are far more tops in NL than in NH because instead of the arctic camo, desert camo, and camo shirts being counted as three unique tops as they were in NL, you get one top, the camo tee, that comes in multiple colors (and there are way more variations of the camo tee than were in NL, it just catalogs as essentially one entry).
I looked through all the indoor/outdoor items listed on VillagerDB and to be honest a laaaarge amount of them are those insect models... And fish models, and allll those varieties of wreaths. So it's probably lacking a lot more than it just seems from the numbers
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moon_child
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Differing opinions between players, I guess. I played all the games. I still have my NL towns until now and while I did enjoy NL during its time, there’s just SO MANY things / issues I had with it that were addressed so perfectly in NH so to me, personally, NH is miles and miles better compared to NL in terms of gameplay experience. Indeed, there may be less furniture, buildings and NPCs in NH but it doesn’t bother me enough to say I would prefer NL over NH because HELL NO I can never go back to that NL lifestyle anymore after NH. Lol.
If you’re curious, there are still some NL gameplays on YouTube, I think, that you can watch to get an idea of the difference. If you can, find those that were done prior to the Welcome Amiibo update for a fairer comparison.
KK Albums are under music, not furniture items. It's a good point about the models though. 168 items with the word "model" in the name (including the non-Flick models and modeling clay etc) are in NH. NH does not have the 20 fossil models from NL. So yes, about 160 models are in the furniture items, 360 furniture difference.
I actually tried watching some NL video and call me spoiled but the graphics, especially when rendered on YouTube...lol. Folks are just using their phone camera to record their screen and it'll only take a couple of mins before I get dizzy watching said vid.
That's why I am always wondering how much of a better game it is or is it nostalgia. I mean, I've gone back to watch some movies that I swear was one of the best movies I've watched as a kid, then I started to question my taste after the fact, haha.
I can't believe you don't prefer a game where when you picked up fruit, it didn't stack and you had to manually stack it yourself! And where all bells picked up went into your pocket, never your wallet!
I honestly think that a lot of people don't like the philosophy change behind ACNH compared to the previous games. Since Nintendo has figured out they can have updates in games, that is influencing how they let us interact with content. I bet that a lot of people might be happier in the game once they let us have access to all the content that the game is supposed to have in it instead of updating throughout the year.
I agree, but at the same time I would greatly prefer what we currently have (a really strong base for a game with a lot of desperately needed new core features like terraforming and the ability to place furniture outside) with more content added later than a weak foundation with a lot of fluff. So I'm not upset. I would also rather play a somewhat empty game that gradually gains content over three years than wait an extra three years before playing at all.
I really admire the dedication the Animal Crossing development team has to preserve their employee's mental health and wellbeing by pushing back the release (and I also expect by giving us less initial content) so I don't mind waiting. I wish more developers cared that much about their employees
I really admire the dedication the Animal Crossing development team has to preserve their employee's mental health and wellbeing by pushing back the release (and I also expect by giving us less initial content) so I don't mind waiting. I wish more developers cared that much about their employees
GirlPolarBear
that tea girl
it's because it is, in comparison.
in new leaf, we had plenty of shops just at our fingertips whenever we wanted during the day - fortune tellers, shampoodles, able sisters, museum, nooks, leifs, club LOL, post office, photo booth, train station, campsite and DIVING hasn't been added yet
however in new horizons, it's been shortened to just standalone building of the airport, nooks, able sisters and museum. it seems like a big downgrade, but really it's just features presumably that will be added in the future? by the free updates alone, the game will get bigger and bigger and will add more of the features we know and love. it's probably a tactic to keep playing picking up their switches to play again for the new things, and it works as far as i'm aware
in new leaf, we had plenty of shops just at our fingertips whenever we wanted during the day - fortune tellers, shampoodles, able sisters, museum, nooks, leifs, club LOL, post office, photo booth, train station, campsite and DIVING hasn't been added yet
however in new horizons, it's been shortened to just standalone building of the airport, nooks, able sisters and museum. it seems like a big downgrade, but really it's just features presumably that will be added in the future? by the free updates alone, the game will get bigger and bigger and will add more of the features we know and love. it's probably a tactic to keep playing picking up their switches to play again for the new things, and it works as far as i'm aware
Ooooh right yeah I just saw I had my filters set up wrong, I take the KK album thing back!!!
But yes there are also about 26 wreaths that are just random flowers, I didn't count all the unique ones because I feel those belong to furniture series but that's a lot of random flowers.
360 furniture items is a lot
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