Which Super Smash Bros game do you like best?

Which SSB do you like best?

  • Super Smash Bros

    Votes: 3 5.7%
  • Super Smash Bros Melee

    Votes: 24 45.3%
  • Super Smash Bros Brawl

    Votes: 26 49.1%

  • Total voters
    53
Was going to write something, but then I saw this.
You look familiar :D

Also, this thread is "Which Super Smash Bros game do you like best?" not "Which Super Smash Bros game is theoretically the best?" so stop the idiotic arguing.

Whatever, I digress. Do what you want. Keep telling people the game they like is broken etc etc blah.



*post directed at pidjiken probably butchered name though ahuehue
 
Stating that you find a game others truly love to be broken doesn't mean it is to anyone but the one stating it. I find it to be fully functional. Some changes just have to be gotten used to, or you simply choose not to partake.

You obviously don't understand. This is not about op characters, or balance issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T2i-KWp2Vg

Tell me this isn't broken. Only the severely ignorant, fanboyish, or delusional can watch **** like this and try to claim this isn't broken. This can be done on any game setting, in any game.

Fact: The game is broken. This is only 1 of the broken gameplay issues.
 
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So Metaknight can fly about infinitely? That's a cowards move and those who would use it, I would have to cease play with.

Which means you consider it broken. Otherwise you'd have no problem with people using it.

I don't care if they want to try to hit me with a torando repetitively either. There's plenty of spammy moves on all versions. There are ways around it.

The problem with the tornado is that there are only a handful of moves that have a programmed priority over it. Most of the characters in Brawl can be shut out completely by it and the sky attack alone, which also takes priority over nearly every other move in the game. If you don't know what priority means, it means that when two moves are used against each other, one with a higher priority will hit, while the one with the lower priority will miss or deal no damage. Metaknights skillset alone influenced the tiers substantially. Whoever can hit him is typically higher in the tier list, those who can't are typically much lower.

Not to mention how broken Mr. Game and Watch is. That 25% chance 9 Hammer insta kill is bull****. Free wins for single skill spammers. This is why Samus, despite being considered bottom of the tier list in the original smash brothers, was banned at events. Her down smash was an insta kill.

Snake is ****ing ******** for any game that includes a smash ball, even in tourneys his power, priotity rating, and speed make him the best behind metaknight. No one comes close to these two.

Fact: You value your opinion too highly if you keep calling it fact.

A fact is a fact. Just because you want it to be an opinion doesn't make it so.
 
All these people voting for Brawl.

Are you all 12 or something? Even people who played Brawl know Melee is the best.
 
Which means you consider it broken. Otherwise you'd have no problem with people using it.



The problem with the tornado is that there are only a handful of moves that have a programmed priority over it. Most of the characters in Brawl can be shut out completely by it and the sky attack alone, which also takes priority over nearly every other move in the game. If you don't know what priority means, it means that when two moves are used against each other, one with a higher priority will hit, while the one with the lower priority will miss or deal no damage. Metaknights skillset alone influenced the tiers substantially. Whoever can hit him is typically higher in the tier list, those who can't are typically much lower.

Not to mention how broken Mr. Game and Watch is. That 25% chance 9 Hammer insta kill is bull****. Free wins for single skill spammers. This is why Samus, despite being considered bottom of the tier list in the original smash brothers, was banned at events. Her down smash was an insta kill.

Snake is ****ing ******** for any game that includes a smash ball, even in tourneys his power, priotity rating, and speed make him the best behind metaknight. No one comes close to these two.



A fact is a fact. Just because you want it to be an opinion doesn't make it so.

Brawl's cool, yo.
 
All these people voting for Brawl.

Are you all 12 or something? Even people who played Brawl know Melee is the best.

I know right? lol
Absolutely not. I don't care much for cheaters. Which is who spammy moves are used by. Just because its in the game, it is not broken. If your disc is in two pieces, by all means, call it broken.
Define Broken: having been fractured or damaged and no longer in one piece or in working order.
The game is in one, fully functional piece. Regardless of whether or not you enjoy any given part. It plays exactly as was intended by the creators.

You aren't using the correct definition of broken.

Define: Broken (Games) A game object or facility that is too good to exist. It is so powerful that it is unbalancing and hence breaks the game. Every winning player has to use this to be competitive.

When nearly every tourney (95%+ ) was won by anything but a metaknight for years.

When Metaknight was banned, nearly every tourney was won by Snake for the next year. ( 90%+)

SSBB is BROKEN by definition


I use Captain Falcon, Pit and Marth. I have no trouble whooping Snake or Metaknight. Even online. It comes down to skill, if you're lacking, I guess it might not be as fun.

You aren't playing any snakes or Metaknights of any viable skill then. It's simple as that. I've never once said you can't have fun with brawl. The problem is the flawed perception that this isn't a broken game. It is, by definition, a broken game.


Define Fact: A thing that is indisputably the case.
The FACT that I am able to dispute your claim, states that your argument is based on Opinion.

You are disputing the case based on the wrong definition of the word broken. Thus your argument is invalid and the fact withheld.


The rest is incorrect conjecture based on the flawed definition so I've omitted it from response.
 
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These arguments, even when you're wrong you just keep going. You are a very difficult individual to hold respect for. "What are you, twelve?"

Wait wait wait. lol wut?

So you use the incorrect definition, get called out on it, get proven completely wrong.

After this you refuse to so much as formulate a rebuttal, then call me 12 while falsely clinging to your claims of being correct based on a definition that does not apply to the current debate.

lul....

So you classify under delusional then I guess. Either that or you're just really bad at debate considering you fight solely with opinions and refuse to acknowledge facts. Are you a theist by any chance?
 
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This is your character. Would you like me to bring up the Gamefaqs thing? Where EVERYONE called you out and you STILL fought it?

Wut? I don't even think I have a gamefaqs account. Pidjiken is the only username I use anywhere. =/ This is incredibly confusing. Please link what you are referencing.

YOU used a definition that makes no sense. If a game were too good to exist, it simply would not exist.

Just because you do not understand it, does not mean it makes no sense. It just means you need help with clarification so that you can understand it. The definition is not saying the game is too good to exist, it is saying that an aspect of the game is too good to exist. It is in reference to a game mechanic or character that is simply too good to be true. It does not mean the ENTIRE GAME. It means an aspect of the game is so good or overpowered that it causes the games competitive aspect to be completely unfair and unbalanced to the point of requirement for winning anything at a competitive level.

Yours is a loser's definition.

Mine is the true definition of the word broken when used to reference a game. If you don't like the definition of the word then I don't know what to tell you. It is what it is, as you stated prior, you cannot refute a proper definition.

more stuff based on misconceptions. Then the theist comment.

I merely asked if you were a theist because your argument style matches one. You aren't using facts, you're jumping around the issue and using opinions based on misconceptions and incorrect definitions. When presented with facts you are ignoring them and spouting more baseless opinions.
 
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Wut? I don't even think I have a gamefaqs account. Pidjiken is the only username I use anywhere. =/ This is incredibly confusing. Please link what you are referencing.



Just because you do not understand it, does not mean it makes no sense. It just means you need help with clarification so that you can understand it. The definition is not saying the game is too good to exist, it is saying that an aspect of the game is too good to exist. It is in reference to a game mechanic or character that is simply too good to be true. It does not mean the ENTIRE GAME. It means an aspect of the game is so good or overpowered that it causes the games competitive aspect to be completely unfair and unbalanced to the point of requirement for winning anything at a competitive level.



Mine is the true definition of the word broken when used to reference a game. If you don't like the definition of the word then I don't know what to tell you. It is what it is, as you stated prior, you cannot refute a proper definition.



I merely asked if you were a theist because your argument style matches one. You aren't using facts, you're jumping around the issue and using opinions based on misconceptions and incorrect definitions. When presented with facts you are ignoring them and spouting more baseless opinions.

hes right
youre stuck on yourself
brawl is better
 
hes right
youre stuck on yourself
brawl is better

He's using the incorrect definition of the term. You can't be right when you base your argument on a falsehood. It's basic logic.

I'm still wondering what the hell he's talking about on a gamefaqs board. =/
 
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@Pidjiken and Aquadirt: You guys both have good ideas of what the game is about. But can you at least agree to disagree that your way is right? There is not always one or wrong way in an argument. Sometimes it may never finish at all because people fail to accept the reality of that. You guys need to knock off the arguing, and get over it. You also both need to accept that each of your statements are at least partially biased based on the fact that you've played the game differently from each other. In the end, if you keep countering each other you'll get this thread locked and make people lose the chance to vote and voice what they think about the series overall. That's totally not necessary, and the lame 12 year old excuse is so overrated. Seriously. Get a grip.
 
@Pidjiken and Aquadirt: You guys both have good ideas of what the game is about. But can you at least agree to disagree that your way is right? There is not always one or wrong way in an argument. Sometimes it may never finish at all because people fail to accept the reality of that. You guys need to knock off the arguing, and get over it. You also both need to accept that each of your statements are at least partially biased based on the fact that you've played the game differently from each other. In the end, if you keep countering each other you'll get this thread locked and make people lose the chance to vote and voice what they think about the series overall. That's totally not necessary, and the lame 12 year old excuse is so overrated. Seriously. Get a grip.



Did either of you even consider what I said here? STOP FIGHTING. I'm seriously considering just reporting you both if you don't quit it.
 
@Pidjiken and Aquadirt: You guys both have good ideas of what the game is about. But can you at least agree to disagree that your way is right? There is not always one or wrong way in an argument. Sometimes it may never finish at all because people fail to accept the reality of that. You guys need to knock off the arguing, and get over it. You also both need to accept that each of your statements are at least partially biased based on the fact that you've played the game differently from each other. In the end, if you keep countering each other you'll get this thread locked and make people lose the chance to vote and voice what they think about the series overall. That's totally not necessary, and the lame 12 year old excuse is so overrated. Seriously. Get a grip.

I'd actually like him to post proof of his attacks. He's claiming some bull**** based on a forum I don't even use, and as far as I know have never used. I go to gamefaqs maybe once a year for a guide, I don't have an account, and I certainly have never posted on their board.

If he's going to throw personal attacks based on something he assumes was me he'd better be ready to rectify his impolite behavior appropriately.

I'e been nothing but courteous during this debate between me and him, he's done nothing but throw insults, opinions, and misconceptions. If he had provided a shred of proof I'd feel inclined to respect his side at least to a moderate degree. However his attitude has not been one worth respecting. Once proven wrong he's flown off the handle twice now without addressing it. And posted strange threats based on speculation of something from some other board that he has not posted.
 
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