Smash Bros Were you disappointed with the final Smash Direct?

Were you disappointed with the final Smash DLC characters?

  • Yes, I was disappointed.

    Votes: 26 41.3%
  • No, I liked the choices.

    Votes: 20 31.7%
  • Didn't bother me, I just welcome new fighters.

    Votes: 11 17.5%
  • I didn't know who they were.

    Votes: 6 9.5%

  • Total voters
    63
No, I'm not dissapointed. I voted for bayonetta among 5 other characters, and I love fire emblem so I liked kamui too.
Everyone is saying it's a waste of a character slot, but tbh nintendo mostly just did this for advertising so I don't think anyone could've stopped them.

Shovel knight and Shantae are both popular American games, but Japans barely knows them, so that's expected as well. I did expect shovel knight to get in bc of the amiibo, but I guess not?

I personally had no interest in King K Rool, not sure why people were so excited about him, he's a villain from 20 years ago...
 
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No, I'm not dissapointed. I voted for bayonetta among 5 other characters, and I love fire emblem so I liked kamui too.
Everyone is saying it's a waste of a character slot, but tbh nintendo mostly just did this for advertising so I don't think anyone could've stopped them.

Shovel knight and Shantae are both popular American games, but Japans barely knows them, so that's expected as well. I did expect shovel knight to get in bc of the amiibo, but I guess not?

I personally had no interest in King K Rool, not sure why people were so excited about him, he's a villain from 20 years ago...
K. Rool is pretty irrelevant these days, true. It would just be nice to have more villains in the Smash Bros. games and people really want more Donkey Kong reps.
 
Lucina adds female representation and fans who hopped on with Awakening like her for some reason. If the audio situation wasn't an issue (switching voices), she really should have just been a Marth alternate costume.
She was. Like dark Pitt and doctor Mario, they were all alt costumes for their respective character. But the devs team felt they were unique enough to be their own fighter and had a little extra time so they separated them all, and before someone complains about them "taking up character slots" sakurai has already explained that it took minimal time to develop them, and that if they weren't in the game, 3 different characters wouldn't have taken their place, we'd just have three less characters.

Shovel knight and Shantae are both popular American games, but Japans barely knows them, so that's expected as well. I did expect shovel knight to get in bc of the amiibo, but I guess not?
Never understood this logic. The SK a amiibo isn't even in the smash amiibo line, it'd totally screw up the smash Amibo if they just allowed it's SK amiibo to be used and not remake it's own smash one, which seems like a pointless move and a waste of time. Why not just delay the SK one and release the smash one with SK compatibility which would be announced alongside it's reveal, I know they did this with Mario for smash and MP lines, but Mario isn't a third party character.

As for the characters, I don't really care for any of them. But I guess Corrin was included as like an homage to marth and Roy in melee who weren't going to be included in the west because no one knew they were but they yolod and then the FE series became popular in the west because of their inclusion so I guess Corrin is just them paying homage to that which is rather fitting IMO. I am a little annoyed at another FE character, but his style is unique enough for me to not care. Bayonetta looks cool, but her inclusion seemed kind of obvious. I'd have rather the character be someone unexpected, but w/e.
Like Tao said, I was under the impression the ballot was to include a few characters, and not just one. I'm not that disappointed by her inclusion, but I'd just rather they took more than one suggestion.
Minor addition: people saying that she won the fighter ballot, and that it wasn't a suggestions box is annoying. She didn't win the ballot, she "won" in Europe and ranked within the top 5 most suggested characters world wide, and was included because she was the most realizable character they could have in smash. She didn't win, it was still a suggestions box.
 
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who the hell is shantae
She's from a series of platformers that have been on Nintendo consoles since the Game Boy Color. She's a genie who primarily attacks with her long hair, but can also use magic to transform into animal forms both for offensive purposes and to traverse areas she otherwise could not.

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She was. Like dark Pitt and doctor Mario, they were all alt costumes for their respective character. But the devs team felt they were unique enough to be their own fighter and had a little extra time so they separated them all, and before someone complains about them "taking up character slots" sakurai has already explained that it took minimal time to develop them, and that if they weren't in the game, 3 different characters wouldn't have taken their place, we'd just have three less characters.
I know they all started out as alternates, but think they probably should have just stayed that way so there would be less irritation amongst the fans. They all play somewhat differently enough from the characters they're clones of, so it doesn't personally bother me all that much, but everyone's all concerned about what is overrepresented and what is underrepresented.
 
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who the hell is shantae

Shantae-cover.jpg

General info
Shantae Wiki
Shantae: Risky's Revenge on Steam
Shantae and the Pirate's Curse on Steam

The whole Shovel Knight VS Shantae thing is because they are both "retro" platformers, but Shantae has been around far longer, so her fans assumed she'd get in based on that.

With Cloud, I was kind of expecting it. Nintendo and Square-Enix have had a business relationship for a long time. With the FF7 Remake announcement, any way they can get Cloud some recognition will result in more exposure for the FF7 Remake. Marketing, advertising, etc. People who have never played Final Fantasy but play Smash will look at Cloud and be like "Who?" then look him up, see he's from FF7, then look up FF7 and see there's a remake coming up. This would also apply to Corrin and Fire Emblem.

As for Bayonetta/Corrin, I was fine with their announcement. They both look really fun to play, with different and exciting movesets. Any new character is good. We're lucky to even have SSB4, so anything we get after release is great. I honestly don't care about the "too many Fire Emblem reps" argument....with Corrin, that's 6. Mario has 9 reps, and people keep asking for a few more (Daisy, Waluigi, Toad, etc).
 
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who the hell is shantae
A character that doesn't deserve the praise she's been getting, people just want boobs and well, Shantae has them.

But we have a certain hot witch filling in that place :^)
 
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No, I'm actually really pleased with the new comers.

I was dreading to get a character from a franchise I'm not particularly familiar with, such as Donkey kong or some small indie game, but instead we got representatives from Bayonetta and FE.

Can't wait to buy the new FE game, will definitely be maining as Corrin. Maybe Bayonetta too, if her play style is fast and fluent like Shiek's.

VERY glad that Shovel knight, Shantae, King K Rool or any other barely known characters didn't get in. extremely glad that ppl are so salty about the new 2 dlc characters coz they were stupid to think shovel knight and Shantae actually stood a chance. Dream on.

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As for Bayonetta/Corrin, I was fine with their announcement. They both look really fun to play, with different and exciting movesets. Any new character is good. We're lucky to even have SSB4, so anything we get after release is great. I honestly don't care about the "too many Fire Emblem reps" argument....with Corrin, that's 6. Mario has 9 reps, and people keep asking for a few more (Daisy, Waluigi, Toad, etc).

Exactly. I don't know why everybody moans about how many representatives there are when actually there's only 3 characters that are actually original, the other 2 are clones (Lucina + Roy, also not including Corrin since he/she's not released yet).

It's just the plain old smash community moaning for the sake of moaning.

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why corrin

rip inklings

Didn't Nintendo announce ages ago that Inklings weren't going to be in Smash?
 
A character that doesn't deserve the praise she's been getting, people just want boobs and well, Shantae has them.

But we have a certain hot witch filling in that place :^)

Omg no, i like Shantae a lot and i am gay so boobs do not interest me at all...
 
Bayonetta was a must, but Corrin is pretty forgettable. Expected Shovel Knight or some craziness like Cooking Mama, Isaac from Golden Sun or Gracie.

Cooking Mama and Gracie! HAHAHAHA

I wanted some more fun characters.... all of the DLC people we've gotten look to serious! I wanted a Captain Toad or some other Animal Crossing rep... However no shame to Bayonetta! I have never played her games, but she looks wicked fun to play as... it is a lot of Fire Emblem though, and if I wanted to play soul caliber I would buy a Playstation
 
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Cooking Mama and Gracie! HAHAHAHA

I wanted some more fun characters.... all of the DLC people we've gotten look to serious! I wanted a Captain Toad or some other Animal Crossing rep... However no shame to Bayonetta! I have never played her games, but she looks wicked fun to play as... it is a lot of Fire Emblem though, and if I wanted to play soul caliber I would buy a Playstation

Bayonetta is kinda playful but i see where you are coming from. But i honestly do not know who i would have wanted in the game without over representating a game (Fire Emblem suddenly got really big though. 6 Characters!!)
 
This is just a small thing, but can't they introduce the girl avatar as the default avatar sometimes? They already had male Robin as the default Robin in the first Smash clip. You'd think they'd switch it around this time. I actually think the female Corrin fits the name better and looks better than the male one.
 
I could not give half a heck about Corrin. I really can't. I've never heard of them, I can't give a rip about FE: Fates, it all just seemed really unnecessary and arbitrary. Why would Fire Emblem, of all franchises, have the most fighters in the roster?

Bayonetta on the other hand looks amazing. Can't wait for her. I would have gladly taken Wolf over her, though. Definitely over Corrin, too.
 
I could not give half a heck about Corrin. I really can't. I've never heard of them, I can't give a rip about FE: Fates, it all just seemed really unnecessary and arbitrary. Why would Fire Emblem, of all franchises, have the most fighters in the roster?

Bayonetta on the other hand looks amazing. Can't wait for her. I would have gladly taken Wolf over her, though. Definitely over Corrin, too.

Um, Pok?mon has 6 fighters too, you know. And for Fire Emblem, one is a full out clone. So having Corrin actually adds a bit more variety.
 
I love Bayonetta but personally I'm not a big fan of Fire Emblem. I just go with the flow and whatever new fighters are welcome I accept.
 
Um, Pok?mon has 6 fighters too, you know. And for Fire Emblem, one is a full out clone. So having Corrin actually adds a bit more variety.

No doubt Corrin does add something totally new to the FE line up, I think he looks really cool and different! (although I think he is gonna be a little OP....) but unfortunately he is picking up the bad rep of all the other FE being so similar already to each other.... mario has 7 with like two clones (dr mario and luigi) but marth, lucina, roy, all have huge similarities... ike is def more different but still has his similarities... Robin and Corrin are the only totally different. I wish they had like TRIED to put some other people in besides all these swordsman who look like they could be brothers... thats what makes me angry.

Like I think the variety could be CRAZY if they had put assets in other ways... like how mad would you be if we didn't have roy, lucina, dark pit, dr. mario? and how much cooler would it be if you had 4 totally unique characters (still rooting for Captain Toad)... I think Nintendo had a mindset to put so much stuff (music, trophies, characters) in they didn't really care at the end if they blurred the lines at the end. plus they also knew that smash was freaking amazing so knew people would overlook their laziness... which lets be real, we are

Also I don't know why Dark Pit was necessary too and in my opinion is the worst offense

shout out to pokemon for bringing 6 totally unique players!
 
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Mario has 7

Mario has 9 reps.

Mario
Luigi
Peach
Wario
Dr. Mario
Yoshi
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Rosalina & Luma


Also if you count the Koopaling skins for Bowser Jr., you can consider it 15 reps.
So I find this "X franchise has 6 reps, that's too many!" argument invalid.
 
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Yoshi and Wario come from their own series now. They originated from Mario games, but they aren't Mario reps in Smash.
 
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