We Need More Mods to Combat Spam Threads.

[cIementine]

I don't understand why mods are responsible for the destructive spam threads people keep creating; their responsibility is to delete them once reported, and hope people learn from it. they really can't stop people from making them. we could have a million mods, but people would still create spam threads.

 

[piichinu]

I don't understand why mods are responsible for the destructive spam threads people keep creating; their responsibility is to delete them once reported, and hope people learn from it. they really can't stop people from making them. we could have a million mods, but people would still create spam threads.

Reading is good for you, sweatie.

 

[Isabella]

I don't understand why mods are responsible for the destructive spam threads people keep creating; their responsibility is to delete them once reported, and hope people learn from it. they really can't stop people from making them. we could have a million mods, but people would still create spam threads.

It's not. but isn't there rules against spamming?
the point is guidelines for forums are there for a reason & if people don't follow it and do it constantly they should be banned etc.
Enforcing guidelines is up to the people who run this place.

 

[oath2order]

I don't understand why mods are responsible for the destructive spam threads people keep creating; their responsibility is to delete them once reported, and hope people learn from it. they really can't stop people from making them. we could have a million mods, but people would still create spam threads.

I mean, you're right, but the circlejerk of "the mods don't do anything" is a little strong rn

 

[Kittyinpink87]

It's not. but isn't there rules against spamming?
the point is guidelines for forums are there for a reason & if people don't follow it and do it constantly they should be banned etc.
Enforcing guidelines is up to the people who run this place.

i think the problem with that , is a lot of threads don't really start out as spam.

 

[teto]

i think the problem with that , is a lot of threads don't really start out as spam.

most threads either start as jokes and turn into spam or are just posts that become plain spam
any spam ones i've posted have been in the basement (and i got banned for one of those? for some reason?)

but either way i propose spongebob should be the new mod

 

[Chris]

I understand where you're coming from, but it still really doesn't help if you need to talk to a mod & they're all unavailable. I suppose an announcement could be made saying that moderators are busy & even if they appear online they may be doing things behind the scenes and can't answer immediately. <snip>

I agree with this. A thread which contains the current status of the availability of the mods would be very helpful for members, which can be updated by the mod depending on how much of free time they have. As of you guys volunteering for all this, it really is appreciated and we couldn't thank you more for your hard work but since you're doing this you know what you've gotten into. <snip>

Once again, we're not paid employees. There is no reason for such formality. Just like regular members, our activity goes up and down on a day-to-day basis. It's not like we plan it. We don't work in 'shifts' or have designated time off. We're online when we feel like being online and offline when we don't feel like being online, just like you all are. It's spontaneous, but most if not all of us do log into TBT on a daily basis regardless of whether we can only manage 5 minutes or 15 hours that day. If a mod is purposely taking time away (e.g. on vacation with limited interest access) we usually put it in our signatures or user titles. That's the only time it is really necessary for us to broadcast our activity levels to anyone.

For the record, despite complaints we're actually better now than ever in keeping on top of reports. Last summer I would log in each day to 25-50 reports as I was the only mod actively doing them before the August 2015 intake. That could take hours to go through depending on the complexity of each individual report. Now when I log in I never see more than 4-5, but most days it's zero and I only have to deal with new ones that come in while I'm actively online. So we're on top of the work as long as the members stay on top of reporting. If there are a couple of hours where there is no mod online it's really not as big a deal as people are making it out to be. There isn't really a way to guarantee 24/7 moderation and honestly it's not even necessary. It's an Animal Crossing forum not Buckingham Palace.

On that note: use reports. Post in Bell Tree HQ. We actually discourage people PM'ing us. It is much more likely that your problem will be dealt with faster by either of those two methods than if you're to PM one us individually.

 

[Bowie]

It's an Animal Crossing forum not Buckingham Palace.

This perfectly sums up how I feel.

 

[Red Cat]

Once again, we're not paid employees. There is no reason for such formality. Just like regular members, our activity goes up and down on a day-to-day basis. It's not like we plan it. We don't work in 'shifts' or have designated time off. We're online when we feel like being online and offline when we don't feel like being online, just like you all are. It's spontaneous, but most if not all of us do log into TBT on a daily basis regardless of whether we can only manage 5 minutes or 15 hours that day. If a mod is purposely taking time away (e.g. on vacation with limited interest access) we usually put it in our signatures or user titles. That's the only time it is really necessary for us to broadcast our activity levels to anyone.

So you're a human being with an actual real world life? No wonder you're such a terrible mod. If you'd just focus on being automod #10232 instead of doing stupid stuff like eating and sleeping, then people wouldn't complain so much.

 

[Chris]

So you're a human being with an actual real world life? No wonder you're such a terrible mod. If you'd just focus on being automod #10232 instead of doing stupid stuff like eating and sleeping, then people wouldn't complain so much.

I apologise for being human. I will resign at once.

 

[Isabella]

Once again, we're not paid employees. There is no reason for such formality. Just like regular members, our activity goes up and down on a day-to-day basis. It's not like we plan it. We don't work in 'shifts' or have designated time off. We're online when we feel like being online and offline when we don't feel like being online, just like you all are. It's spontaneous, but most if not all of us do log into TBT on a daily basis regardless of whether we can only manage 5 minutes or 15 hours that day. If a mod is purposely taking time away (e.g. on vacation with limited interest access) we usually put it in our signatures or user titles. That's the only time it is really necessary for us to broadcast our activity levels to anyone.

For the record, despite complaints we're actually better now than ever in keeping on top of reports. Last summer I would log in each day to 25-50 reports as I was the only mod actively doing them before the August 2015 intake. That could take hours to go through depending on the complexity of each individual report. Now when I log in I never see more than 4-5, but most days it's zero and I only have to deal with new ones that come in while I'm actively online. So we're on top of the work as long as the members stay on top of reporting. If there are a couple of hours where there is no mod online it's really not as big a deal as people are making it out to be. There isn't really a way to guarantee 24/7 moderation and honestly it's not even necessary. It's an Animal Crossing forum not Buckingham Palace.

On that note: use reports. Post in Bell Tree HQ. We actually discourage people PM'ing us. It is much more likely that your problem will be dealt with faster by either of those two methods than if you're to PM one us individually.

And this is the kind of mentality that tends to destroy forums & the way they run, I've seen it happen in like 2 different forums.
Everyone is aware that this is volunteer work but the point is that it helps users both new and old be able to have somebody to go to if they really need help. Nobody is asking you to be on 24/7, it's not possible~
And mods shouldn't be opposed to helping out by responding to pm's lol.
Besides, I don't think there will really be an actual emergency on a forum that requires a prompt response besides maybe an attack of spam bots or something. That's why I suggested having an announcement to clear things up because it seems like newer or younger users don't understand the concept that they won't receive an immediate response.

 

[oath2order]

And this is the kind of mentality that tends to destroy forums & the way they run, I've seen it happen in like 2 different forums.
Everyone is aware that this is volunteer work but the point is that it helps users both new and old be able to have somebody to go to if they really need help. Nobody is asking you to be on 24/7, it's not possible~
And mods shouldn't be opposed to helping out by responding to pm's lol.
Besides, I don't think there will really be an actual emergency on a forum that requires a prompt response besides maybe an attack of spam bots or something. That's why I suggested having an announcement to clear things up because it seems like newer or younger users don't understand the concept that they won't receive an immediate response.

That's the mentality the mods have had for the three years I've been here, and likely the same mentality they've had in the past before then.

Given that it's been around 11 years at this point if I'm not mistaken, somehow, just somehow, I don't entirely think that their mentality is going to destroy the forum lmao

 

[Red Cat]

I apologise for being human. I will resign at once.

I'm glad you finally see things my way. This is an Animal Crossing forum, so if you want to be a mod, you have to work slave hours like Timmy and Tommy Nook and Reese. Or better yet, be like Blathers and just be standing in the same spot your entire life sleeping during the day ready to be of service when someone wakes you up.

Edit: Isabelle is the best though, she is always on the job every hour of every single day and never sleeps. Also Kappn's entire family. If I want to go to the island at 3:00 A.M. they are there for me, even the little kid who rips me off. So I don't think it's unreasonable to ask mods not to have a life.

 

[Isabella]

That's the mentality the mods have had for the three years I've been here, and likely the same mentality they've had in the past before then.

Given that it's been around 11 years at this point if I'm not mistaken, somehow, just somehow, I don't entirely think that their mentality is going to destroy the forum lmao

Idk I just thought I'd put it out there bc it seems like multiple people on this thread are saying they don't get responses and things are slow, invisibility doesn't help, etc.

I wouldn't think it would happen but it's just not the best way to think of a mod job thing when you're helping run an entire forum & have to keep everything in check you know?

 

[tae]

i've never been on a big forum where the mods purposefully decide to appear invisible.

i think that's a really dumb thing to do. i mean, im sure you guys dislike a lot of the constant vm's or pm's but wouldn't it be a hell of a lot better to have names shown of online moderators / admins so people can specifically contact someone who is actually online rather than taking a shot in the dark at mods who would rather appear offline instead?

whats the point of being a mod if you're going to be invisible 100% of the time.

 

[Chris]

And this is the kind of mentality that tends to destroy forums & the way they run, I've seen it happen in like 2 different forums.

I've seen it too, and it's not the mentality itself but rather the staff on said boards becoming lazy and falling inactive. All seven of us are active on a (near daily if not) daily basis and keep up with reports now better than ever.

As long as concerns are in reports or the Bell Tree HQ we can deal with them ASAP. PMs limit our knowledge as a group and as a general rule tend to take longer to be addressed due to only one person having knowledge of that persons need for help.

I'm glad you finally see things my way. This is an Animal Crossing forum, so if you want to be a mod, you have to work slave hours like Timmy and Tommy Nook and Reese. Or better yet, be like Blathers and just be standing in the same spot your entire life sleeping during the day ready to be of service when someone wakes you up.

Edit: Isabelle is the best though, she is always on the job every hour of every single day and never sleeps.

Unless Jeremy starts paying me then I demand five minute breaks on days that Crazy Redd is in town. For totally legal activities, of course.

 

[Alienfish]

i've never been on a big forum where the mods purposefully decide to appear invisible.

i think that's a really dumb thing to do. i mean, im sure you guys dislike a lot of the constant vm's or pm's but wouldn't it be a hell of a lot better to have names shown of online moderators / admins so people can specifically contact someone who is actually online rather than taking a shot in the dark at mods who would rather appear offline instead?

I think they stated the reason why they are invisible most of the time. Also sometimes you can tell if they are on if they reply to stuff.

Also to everyone who complains that they appear way less than they "should" try doing a real volunteer job.. regardless if it's on an internet site or IRL and try seeing how easy it is to have time for everything.

I/you can probably have opinions on why they give infractions or think this or that person mini mods or not but that's a bit off topic.

 

[tae]

I think they stated the reason why they are invisible most of the time. Also sometimes you can tell if they are on if they reply to stuff.

i think the fastest mod i've ever encountered when it came to addressing and issue was oblivia. she's usually the only mod i ever go to now because she's always quick to reply and her follow up's are always 100% and i believe she doesn't appear offline so i /know/ she's actually able to help out when i need it.

 

[piichinu]

I'm right.

 

[Nightmares]

I agree that TBT should have a 4/25 rule. If your post is more than 4 paragraphs long and takes 25 minutes to read, then you should receive an infraction.

Yeah no thanks