Villager Plot Resetting Issues - Any experienced resetters out there?

[Meilumi]

Hey guys,

Recently I've been having lots of problems trying to plot reset a particular villager's house. I want my new villager plot in an exact, precise location, so I've put PWPs in place to limit the possible plot locations as much as I can.

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As you can see from this picture, there are only six possible locations the new plot can be. However, I've plot reset at least 100 times, and I've only gotten plots in 4 out of the 6 possible plot locations (these are outlined in red, sorry it's kind of messy). Not once has a plot shown up in the location I want it to be (in green). I know that a house plot /can/ fit in that space, but I just don't really know why it hasn't happened before.

The location is the exact location of the house of the last villager who moved out, who also happened to be one of my original five, if that helps at all. But I've been researching around and people have said that villagers are able to move into the exact space that an old villager used to be.

Could there be any other factors influencing the plot spawns? And can anyone think of a possible explanation for why my game is being so stubborn? Any advice for what to do? Thanks a bunch to anyone who can help!

 

[lizzy541]

it could be that there is now a pwp being built behind it. the distances vary, so it may be too close. also, plot resetting is pure luck. there really isn't anything you can do except place more pwps in open areas so it lowers the amount of potential plots.

 

[Meilumi]

it could be that there is now a pwp being built behind it. the distances vary, so it may be too close. also, plot resetting is pure luck. there really isn't anything you can do except place more pwps in open areas so it lowers the amount of potential plots.

I used to have a bench PWP back there but I demolished it since I thought it might have been interfering with the plots. Destroying it didn't do anything helpful though, so I built that new PWP so the amount of possible spawning locations would decrease. Since a plot has appeared in the upper-left square before though, I don't think the top-left PWP is limiting/preventing a plot from spawning in the desired location? Maybe I'll try to pay off that PWP and see what happens.

As for placing more PWPs in open areas, I've already covered my town with dozens of PWPs so that the only possible locations for a plot to spawn are literally those 6 plots in the picture. I would have placed more PWPs if I could, but there are houses to the left and bottom of this house that don't allow for enough room to squeeze a PWP in to limit the space even more.

Thanks for the advice!!

 

[starcharmer]

Since the pwp (pwps? if that's another offscreen to the right) you already have seem to be pretty small I don't think it's a buffer issue that's causing the villager not to place their house properly, I think it's just plain RNG cruelty. :/

I had a very specific spot for Vesta to put her house when she was moving in and she would often be in the general area but not close enough despite there being ample space and that's with a house to her left, a pond behind said house and her future plot, a rock and town hall and her house wasn't in danger of interfering with the buffer zones of any of them. Took me roughly 3-4 days to line up her house and I wasn't willing to go any longer to get her to into the spot I wanted for her. x_x

I think if you are willing to have this villager where you want 'em you can definitely do it! C:

For future reference this guide might be able to help you further! ^^
http://angiestown.tumblr.com/post/91178481792/i-still-see-people-complaining-about-how-isabelle

 

[Meilumi]

Since the pwp (pwps? if that's another offscreen to the right) you already have seem to be pretty small I don't think it's a buffer issue that's causing the villager not to place their house properly, I think it's just plain RNG cruelty. :/

I had a very specific spot for Vesta to put her house when she was moving in and she would often be in the general area but not close enough despite there being ample space and that's with a house to her left, a pond behind said house and her future plot, a rock and town hall and her house wasn't in danger of interfering with the buffer zones of any of them. Took me roughly 3-4 days to line up her house and I wasn't willing to go any longer to get her to into the spot I wanted for her. x_x

I think if you are willing to have this villager where you want 'em you can definitely do it! C:

For future reference this guide might be able to help you further! ^^
http://angiestown.tumblr.com/post/91178481792/i-still-see-people-complaining-about-how-isabelle

The PWP to the right is a round streetlight, so yeah I don't think its buffer zone (I marked it with yellow) should be interfering with the buffer zone of the villager house (I marked it with green) at all. RNG really is terrible.

And man that sucks with Vesta. So did you just settle for a spot that was lined up with the other villager's house, but not in the exact spot you wanted her? The reason I want the villager in this exact spot is because it's one of the four corners of a little residential square that I have planned out, so there's not really any room for misalignment. :| I guess I'll just have to keep trying though?

 

[Patypus]

Yep, this is just a part of plot resetting RNG. I noticed that they generally have 3-4 locations that they frequently appear on, and every so often they will be on a completely random spot that allows a home to fit in. I believe that those 3-4 spots are predetermined and preferred spots for the villager (for whatever reason) and for it to appear elsewhere has a smaller chance than those spots. However, as long as you don't have any limitations on the spot, then you should be able to move them in and it all just depends on your luck!

 

[starcharmer]

The PWP to the right is a round streetlight, so yeah I don't think its buffer zone (I marked it with yellow) should be interfering with the buffer zone of the villager house (I marked it with green) at all. RNG really is terrible.

And man that sucks with Vesta. So did you just settle for a spot that was lined up with the other villager's house, but not in the exact spot you wanted her? The reason I want the villager in this exact spot is because it's one of the four corners of a little residential square that I have planned out, so there's not really any room for misalignment. :| I guess I'll just have to keep trying though?

Yeah since there's definitely no interference space-wise, I really do think it's RNG cruelty.

I settled for having her house lined up with Pashmina's because for me that was the first time her house plot had ever done that and my patience was worn thin after three days and over a few hundred times resetting. She was almost in the spot I had for her but just one space too far to the right and at that point I just wanted to get back into playing the game. x_x

Ooh... If the residential square area isn't possible to rework I would keep trying personally, especially if you're in a pattern chain of having this house appear in this general area but not close enough. Whoever is supposed to be there should get there eventually! Seeing as an old house could go there with no problems.

I wish you luck and hope your trial doesn't take as long as mine!
Or any longer amount because I've heard of some people trying from anywhere between a week and a month. D:
If anyone took that long for me I might not ever want to see them again haha!

 

[Meilumi]

Yep, this is just a part of plot resetting RNG. I noticed that they generally have 3-4 locations that they frequently appear on, and every so often they will be on a completely random spot that allows a home to fit in. I believe that those 3-4 spots are predetermined and preferred spots for the villager (for whatever reason) and for it to appear elsewhere has a smaller chance than those spots. However, as long as you don't have any limitations on the spot, then you should be able to move them in and it all just depends on your luck!

Plot resetting RNG just really is a pain, but hopefully my luck will someday pull through! Thanks for your insight!

Yeah since there's definitely no interference space-wise, I really do think it's RNG cruelty.

I settled for having her house lined up with Pashmina's because for me that was the first time her house plot had ever done that and my patience was worn thin after three days and over a few hundred times resetting. She was almost in the spot I had for her but just one space too far to the right and at that point I just wanted to get back into playing the game. x_x

Ooh... If the residential square area isn't possible to rework I would keep trying personally, especially if you're in a pattern chain of having this house appear in this general area but not close enough. Whoever is supposed to be there should get there eventually! Seeing as an old house could go there with no problems.

I wish you luck and hope your trial doesn't take as long as mine!
Or any longer amount because I've heard of some people trying from anywhere between a week and a month. D:
If anyone took that long for me I might not ever want to see them again haha!

Yeah, I understand that frustration. This is the last of my permanent 10 villagers on my 2nd game, so I'm also itching to get to work developing the town now. D:

And yeah, I've erected PWPs all over my town so that the only 6 possible plot spawning locations are those I have in the picture. And I guess at this point I'll just keep on trying, thanks for the luck!

 

[ona272]

uggh i feel your pain! i actually tried to see if the way you answer the questions had anything to do with the plot reset.
im an idiot.
it doesnt x__-

but i think you got the right idea of limiting the space that the house can spawn at. its all a matter of trial and error. keep at it!! having the perfect town and layout is WORTH IT!!!<3

 

[HoennMaster]

Have you tried using this trick to help get different spots?

 

[Patypus]

Have you tried using this trick to help get different spots?

Wow I haven't! Maybe I will give this a shot and post updates on whether it works

 

[Meilumi]

uggh i feel your pain! i actually tried to see if the way you answer the questions had anything to do with the plot reset.
im an idiot.
it doesnt x__-

but i think you got the right idea of limiting the space that the house can spawn at. its all a matter of trial and error. keep at it!! having the perfect town and layout is WORTH IT!!!<3

Yeah, I've also been trying to just any explanation for why the game mechanics are acting this way. Like the time of day? How long ago the previous villager moved out? Time traveling backwards and plot resetting on a date earlier than the previous villager's move-out date? All of these are pretty unlikely to begin with, I just really want to know for certain.

Have you tried using this trick to help get different spots?

Yup, but I haven't been doing it that frequently, maybe just once every 10-20ish resets or so. I'll definitely try doing it every 4-6 resets to see if it helps at all.

 

[Red Cat]

I really don't have any idea exact how the plotting mechanics work, but I've run into the same problem. The thing that I speculate is that the game tries to plot a villager in a random spot and checks to see if that spot is allowed for the house. If that spot is not allowed, I think the game might be programmed to "move" the plot over a space instead of picking another completely random location for the plot, and the game keeps moving the plot one space at a time until it finds a legal spot. If this is true (again, I have no idea), then maybe most of the initial plot spots eventually lead to a plot on one of the four spots that you keep getting the plot on. So it could still be possible that your odds of getting a house there are still very small even though you have greatly limited the number of possible plot locations.

 

[starcharmer]

Have you tried using this trick to help get different spots?

Gonna say this trick definitely works! This is what I was trying to say with the pattern chain.
Once I got it going, Vesta and Snake's plots were a cinch!

 

[Meilumi]

I really don't have any idea exact how the plotting mechanics work, but I've run into the same problem. The thing that I speculate is that the game tries to plot a villager in a random spot and checks to see if that spot is allowed for the house. If that spot is not allowed, I think the game might be programmed to "move" the plot over a space instead of picking another completely random location for the plot, and the game keeps moving the plot one space at a time until it finds a legal spot. If this is true (again, I have no idea), then maybe most of the initial plot spots eventually lead to a plot on one of the four spots that you keep getting the plot on. So it could still be possible that your odds of getting a house there are still very small even though you have greatly limited the number of possible plot locations.

That's a really interesting theory that sounds plausible/could be in line with the problems that I'm having. It just so happens to be that the plot I want the house in is in the far upper right corner of the map. (Here's a picture I took of the space I want it to go, it's the upper right house and the border to the right is the cliff: http://imgur.com/fcsqvsV ) There's barely any space there for possible plots to spawn compared with all the space of the rest of the town. (Edit: uploaded my map of my town http://imgur.com/e63feUX )

So theoretically it still is possible for a plot to spawn somewhere in the upper right corner and then "move" down/left a space to wedge into the perfect position I guess. It's just very unlikely that the plot would go into the spot I want because most of the plots are "moving" up/right from the lower/more left parts of town. (If that makes sense.) Most of the plots I've seen are in the bottom three possible spaces, and I've seen the plot appear in the upper left only a few times.

Now I'm really curious, what's been your experience with this? :O

 

[HHoney]

Thank you for this thread! I am so frustrated right now!

I'm plot resetting later in the morning... I've been plotting and resetting for 2 days and I'm worn out. I have about the same amount of space I'm trying to for them in. It feels like this house is the capstone of my town.

Keeping this thread open for reference - will keep you posted if the trick works!

 

[hemming1996]

Same problem with Molly** and I decided to use the trick, took me a few tries but she's in a great spot now

 

[Meilumi]

Same problem with Molly** and I decided to use the trick, took me a few tries but she's in a great spot now

Awesome, glad it worked out for you!

Thank you for this thread! I am so frustrated right now!

I'm plot resetting later in the morning... I've been plotting and resetting for 2 days and I'm worn out. I have about the same amount of space I'm trying to for them in. It feels like this house is the capstone of my town.

Keeping this thread open for reference - will keep you posted if the trick works!

Good luck!! Hopefully RNG will be more in your favor than it has been with me.

 

[yasogami]

Have you tried using this trick to help get different spots?

I can confirm that this works It was taking me forever to plot reset for Octavian but after finding this neat little trick he moved to a very convenient spot within 40 mins or so. Definitely try it! Plot resetting can be a huge pain lol

 

[Patypus]

Does anyone know the best way to approach this method of plot resetting? I feel like I messed up from the beginning of preplanning my PWPs, and from the looks of it everytime I completely reset the 3DS, Francine still moves into the same general plot areas from before. I'm wondering if it's because I gave her so much room to work with that each time she tries to plot her land there, it's off by a few spaces, but everytime she plots into another area it's always more controlled and focused