Two sub-types of each personality?
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Hazel isn't quite mean and rude but she sure isn't a "big sis" type either. I mean she's a debbie downer and semi-angry all the time.
I realize now that I sound extremely definitive in my post, which is reeeeally bad form- I'm embarrassed by that, and I'm seriously sorry. I got excited and went off instead of slowing down and rereading my post a few times. All of this is still fan observation and these investigations are still in early stages.
There is one more value in the data that might be related to sub-types that would stray permanently into the two category per personality description- column AH, _33af13e1 is the boolean NpcTalkType. It is either a one or a zero (two states) and is again unique to each villager. However, all anyone has on this right now is whether or not each villager's NpcTalkType is a 1 or a 0, and the name is just that- a name, meaning it could have all the bearing or absolutely zero bearing on the described sub-types. All of this information is very much "live" and I plan to report back with more discoveries when they are made. At the moment, the villager hobbies are the only unique things about the villagers that have sufficiently demonstrated to differentiate between the villagers within the personalities, but as with every early investigation, there is absolutely more to come.
FWIW, it seems like most of the villager analysis posted here relates pretty strongly to the hobbies while there isn't nearly as much discussion surrounding differences in dialogue.
I would say maybe astrological signs have something to do with it? But at the beginning of the conversation someone stated that Olivia and Opal seem different but they have the same sign, and a 1. Only difference seems to be species and that one has the music interest and the other fashion. But then we add in my Ankha who seems very "oh bless your heart" to me so far, and her interest is nature, she's also a cat, and has a 1 as well.
@aibo, thanks so much for linking the spreadsheet and your other thoughts. I appreciate it, and would be interested (and still thankful!) if you ever come across anything new.
@aibo, thanks so much for linking the spreadsheet and your other thoughts. I appreciate it, and would be interested (and still thankful!) if you ever come across anything new.
FWIW, I think it would be useful if participants in this thread could take special note of their villagers with the same personality types and different interests/NpcTalkType values. Is anyone interested in doing some field research on this? If so, I'll start a thread.
It’s fine! I was just confused that’s all lol. The interests are definitely the only thing I’m seeing currently that differentiates same personality villagers. If there really are personality sub types, maybe they’ll come into play in future updates.
MyVisionIsDying
| Tired Geek |
This entire thread is pretty interesting.
I think I noticed this with my Lazy villagers, they both talk about bugs but Filbert talks about food more (and, bizarrely, how he can make himself smell like anything, and that's a conversation I really want to forget) whereas I think I'm yet to really hear Egbert enthuse about food. Egbert also Naruto runs a lot more than Filbert, who seems more interested in chilling under trees. I'm sure I'll be observing them closer now, haha.
I would say I've noticed with my Normal villagers but I try to keep interacting with Jambette in any form to a minimum, so Vesta probably has more personality to me because I speak with and watch her more. Until I find another normal (ideally Kiki because I love and want her) then I don't think I'll look for differences.
I am, however, excited to see how Antonio and Bill differ as Jocks. The latter just moved in so tomorrow will be a good day to,,, annoy my boy.
I think I noticed this with my Lazy villagers, they both talk about bugs but Filbert talks about food more (and, bizarrely, how he can make himself smell like anything, and that's a conversation I really want to forget) whereas I think I'm yet to really hear Egbert enthuse about food. Egbert also Naruto runs a lot more than Filbert, who seems more interested in chilling under trees. I'm sure I'll be observing them closer now, haha.
I would say I've noticed with my Normal villagers but I try to keep interacting with Jambette in any form to a minimum, so Vesta probably has more personality to me because I speak with and watch her more. Until I find another normal (ideally Kiki because I love and want her) then I don't think I'll look for differences.
I am, however, excited to see how Antonio and Bill differ as Jocks. The latter just moved in so tomorrow will be a good day to,,, annoy my boy.
Galactic Fork
Bunny Enthusiast
I have 3 Peppies in my village. Pippy and Gabi are nearly identical. They are both aspiring popstars and that's pretty much all they talk about. (I also think they have a problem cause they keep trying to sell all their stuff, all the time.). But Chrissy is different. I don't have a sense of her personality yet, but she's never mentioned singing, signing autographs, or her fans.
Yes, please, I would be extremely interested!
Though so far, my experiences aren't lining up when it comes to dialogue. Spork is listed as "nature" type, while Cranston is "play" type but they are both absolutely obsessed with bugs and have the exact same dialog.
I think it's likely that the _9eea1288 value/type only determines their idle actions while outside.
As anecdotal evidence, I can offer that both Tangy (peppy, music type) and Marina (normal, music type), sing constantly. While my other normal, Peaches (education type), never sings and is usually found reading. My other peppies, Pango (fashion type, often found doing yoga) and Flora (play type, often found running) also never sing.
But it seems like there are more than two types for each personality. Ie. my peppies are music, fashion, and play type, respectively.
So if dialogue can indeed be different based on sub-types, it's likely determined by one of the other values.
smudgedhorizon
Senior Member
I don’t know if this is useful but I have Apple (peppy) & Anabelle (peppy) and they are completely different to each other, don’t say the same things. They actually seem to really dislike each other & have frequent falling outs. Anabelle has become close friends with Cranky Elvis (I mention it because I thought traditionally cranky & peppy weren’t supposed to get on very well?) they sing together on the town plaza, do yoga together, & are often visiting each other’s houses.
Apple is a Peppy-Play NpcTalkType 0, and Anabelle is a Peppy-Fashion NpcTalkType 1, so they are indeed defined noticeably differently ingame.
My 2 snootys are best friends but def have different hobbies. Francine gardens a lot and Bitty is always walking around the shops with a bag.
I have 3 normals (rip me) Marina sings ALL the time while Margie and Megan study bugs and plants a lot. Margie and Marina are besties but neither interacts much with Megan. I wonder if/when we get Sanrio villagers if Chelsea will sing a lot too?
I have 3 normals (rip me) Marina sings ALL the time while Margie and Megan study bugs and plants a lot. Margie and Marina are besties but neither interacts much with Megan. I wonder if/when we get Sanrio villagers if Chelsea will sing a lot too?
smudgedhorizon
Senior Member
Thank you! Where in the spreadsheet do I find the talk type? Apologies if it has already been explained somewhere & I’ve missed it. Would Pango & Anabelle be identical?
The NpcTalkType boolean state is listed under the _33af13e1 column.
Pango is Peppy-Fashion NpcTalkType 1 and Anabelle is a Peppy-Fashion NpcTalkType 1, so they are indeed the same.
smudgedhorizon
Senior Member
Ohhhh I’m sad about that, I love both of those & I was hoping they would be slightly different enough that I could justify having both in my island without them being identical in & speech/interests etc.
the only type i have two of is snooty and i don't talk to claudia much since i don't plan on keeping her, but i noticed that chadder (who has moved out) comes off as quite a bit differently than raymond. chadder seemed a bit more extroverted and more like a typical smug villager but raymond seems less brash in a way? though because i didn't plan on keeping chadder either i didn't talk to him all that much so it might just be a case of not having known him enough so i don't have much to base it off of, though the fact that we now have confirmed subtypes makes me think maybe they are different...?
edit: i just checked aibo's spreadsheet and chadder is talktype 0 while raymond is talktype 1, so if those values do determine their subtypes it would make sense why they come off differently.
edit: i just checked aibo's spreadsheet and chadder is talktype 0 while raymond is talktype 1, so if those values do determine their subtypes it would make sense why they come off differently.
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smudgedhorizon
Senior Member
Interestingly I’ve just watched through 25+ of clips on Twitter of random people’s Pango interactions & she has repeatedly said lines of dialogue about being a famous Popstar that Anabelle has literally never mentioned once to me in what must be 100s of times of me talking to her, so I honestly don’t know what to think. I might amiibo card her in & see the differences myself in person, but they DO definitely seem different to me.
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