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it would make sense if mafia was op, the lyncher could be used in a way to balance the game.

A "OP maf" I'm assuming would be four. Do you think that rather than 11v4 we'd have 10v4v1 to "balance" it?

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my b, misunderstood the phrase "a lyncher on a mafia"

So neutral lynchers are a thing? /noobquestion

Yes
 
A "OP maf" I'm assuming would be four. Do you think that rather than 11v4 we'd have 10v4v1 to "balance" it?

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Yes
Im not gonna assume anything, I am just looking at the possibilities, again this was just a tinfoil theory of mine not anything serious.
 
Yo I just caught up with the thread. Something that stood out to me while reading the thread is how Evan townleaned Karen for 'trying to be helpful and active' which I did not see the evidence of. Not scumreading you for it tho. Just something I took note of.

Other things:

1. I don't like how Fire and Biscuit just went mia after posting their rqs. Would like to hear more from both of you. Who do think is sus? Or not sus?

2. Slight townleans on Kirby and Dolby based on playstyle alone. It's late and I'm going to bed soon. Might change.

3. Not comfy with Ness and Cleb. No real reason, just cautious.

4. Kat having a similar role so soon btwn games is hard to believe but ehh I'll believe it for now unless Dolby becomes more sus later.

Gonna go to bed now ttyl.

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Oh before I forgot another thing, @Kit can u link to some of your past games? Or at least let us know how many games you've played before. Thanks!
 
Kat's claim along with clearing Dolby is making me uneasy but I'm going to believe it for now, Dolby is one of my town leans so I hope it's true.

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Have to agree with Seroja about Evan's read on Karen, she hasn't been THAT helpful but she does seem more laid back this time so I think she probably is town.

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I'm okay with an Ayaya lynch right now, her posts don't make sense and she seems evasive when she converses with Cleb.

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Posting a read's list soon. :)
 
@Evan neutral lynchers are the only kind of lynchers I'm aware of tbh. Basically, my wincon is to get Dolby lynched, and if he dies via other means, my objective is to stay alive to the end of the game.

@Cleb Wouldn't really call it giving up lol. I'm choosing to play by the Survivor part of my wincon rather than the Lyncher part, considering I could confirm myself. In SU I just kinda broke down.
 
Because of how I already felt about Dolby, I'm inclined for now to believe Kat's claim.
Which would make Dolby confirmed town.
Unless this is all an elaborate mafia ruse but I guess we'll see.
 
Kit i have a question for you on the previous page: who do you think we should lynch?
 
I mean think about it from maf!Kat's perspective. Huge reverse psychology going on. She makes this big, bold claim and steals a lot of attention (something mafs normally don't want to do.) She claims to be neutral and collabs with Dolby to confirm each other (Kat as neutral and Dolby as good). She plays off of her survival wincon so we leave her and Dolby the hell alone. At least mafs survive until the end. GG.

Having said that, again I will choose to believe her story at this point in the game, especially when we have more deserving lynch candidates. I will definitely keep my eye on them though.

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*at least two mafs
 
Kit i have a question for you on the previous page: who do you think we should lynch?

I don't know. Everyone seems to want to lynch ayaya but I don't feel strongly either way.
I guess I need to look into her posts more.
It just feels like we don't have anything soild now that Kat's claimed and we're grasping at straws.

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Why didn't @Seroja say anything about ayaya? Think everyone else interesting was mentioned.
 
Reads:

Dolby: Given that Kat essentially just confirmed him, I believe him to be town.

KermitTea: Very certain that she is town after she voted Mogyay.

Arstotzkan: Not town, but you know what i mean. I believe her lyncher claim.

KirbyStarShip: His play is reminding me of how he usually plays as town, specifically post #211 where he went back through my scum meta to form a read on me that feels genuine. I feel if Kirby was scum, then he wouldn't have played "devil's advocate" for me and rather scum read me.

Biscuit_m8: Going to rebut what Kat said about them and their RQS:

Hey!

1. What are your preferred pronouns and timezone?
Her/She BST

2. How do you react to people attacking you?
I will probably defend myself

3. What will you be known for in this game?
I'd like to be noticed

4. What do you think the town to mafia to 3rd party ratio is?
12:3:1?

5. Name the scum team, go.
Randomly looking at the list... Mogyay, idk

I don't think that scum, especially a new player, would be willing to say that on #3. But this is probably the townread I'm least sure about given how they've only made about 1 post so far.

Toadsworthy/Fireninja1: Both need to post more.

To be continued on my phone because tablet is about to die
 
Just out of camp and my nephew was born an hour ago, going to visit him now... I will make a post and read over everything as soon as I calm down! Looking for an RQS
 
Almost done with my reads, at rehearsal until 5 so won't be active. I'll post them in about 2 hours.
 
Wow I missed a lot.

So I thought there was scum in Ness/ Kat. But after Kat claim I believe her claim for now. I just didn't like how you claimed so quickly.
Going to work on my reads.
 
Are we gonna talk about who we want lynched? As far as I remember we only have a few hours left, and while I'm not opposed to the Ayaya vote that's up in the slightest, I don't agree with the idea of giving one person sole control over the vote.

...which is part of the reason why I'm voting now, but seeing so few votes with so little time left in the Day is kind of unnerving. I'm wondering if there aren't votes on Ayaya right now because scum is worrying about her getting lynched?
 
We have 4 hours left, even for TBT standards the low number of votes at this point is a bit unnerving. It either means maf doesn't want ayaya dead (like cleb said) or they're fine with how the vote is going.
 
To be clear, while I'm righting this, currently I'm thinking that scum is Ayaya, Mog, and Ness. This is day one, so these reads are kinda crap, so let's get down to it

hellllo sorry for the slightly delayed start from me, i've still to read through the game (i'm on a family trip rn so activity might be so-so until the day after tomorrow when i'm home but i do have internet and a laptop so should be fine, just depends on what we're doing) but i'll read through it in the next few hours and post my initial thoughts soon i just wanted to drop by!

1. What are your preferred pronouns and timezone?
2. How do you react to people attacking you?
3. What will you be known for in this game?
4. What do you think the town to mafia to 3rd party ratio is?
5. Name the scum team, go.

1: she, gmt!
2: i'm a bit sensitive so usually i can get a bit defensive to attacks
3: i ALWAYS answer this the same but until i actually do it i will continue to say it: actually have accurate reads on people and positively contribute to the game
4: i'm not sure really, three scum and one 3rd party?
5. completely random but zendal, kat and cleb
This is a perfectly fine RQS post, however there are three things that stand out to me
1. First of all, we're roughly 200 posts in, and Mog failed to interact with or comment on the two spats which were going on (Ness/Kat and Cleb/Ayaya (though this one had just started)). Moreover, once one looks at number 5, we see the exact same thing that's wrong with Ayaya's RQS, this isn't random. Kat and Cleb are two of the more experienced players, and by this point I had a few townleans on me.
2. She also fails to elaborate on her RQS scumreads like in the last game that she was town (at that point, there had been slightly more discussion tbf, and Mog did go inactive, so this may be tempering my views)
to elaborate on my '5 scum reads' which are weak as **** but i wanted to generate some conversation so..

zendal - very defensive, appears to be appealing to emotion, calling someone out unnecessarily just to regard it in the same paragraph
sensai- didn't like how they called out utti three times, made me think they didn't want to call anyone else out and perhaps sheep on sussing utti. also didn't like how they didn't read q 4, highly likely they misread but maybe avoiding the question
kermit - idk i dont like how u sussed trundle when he did say he was busy and the game legit did just start?
qwerty - i randomly picked out someone who hadn't posted just in case there's a maf lurker about
kat - everyone above apart from kermit is relatively inexperienced so i stuck you in, sorry

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i meant question 3***

3. The answers to 2 and 3 seem like she's trying to copy what she said last time that she was town
hi everyone, sorry was asleep then had work (gmt is worst timezone for maf), i skimmed through the thread but i will have a more in-depth look later when i'm settled

1. What are your preferred pronouns and timezone?
she/her (but i don't care) and gmt
2. How do you react to people attacking you?
try and defend myself with logic and reasoning but i do get a little sensitive about it sometimes
3. What will you be known for in this game?
i'm really hoping accurate reads because i was a car crash last game
4. What do you think the town to mafia to 3rd party ratio is?
i'm not really sure, i'd guess 5?
5. Name the scum team, go.
sensai, zendal, kermit, qwerty and kat based on little to no reasoning

Now, I am aware that it's pretty unfair to hold Seroja up to the standard of Mog, especially when Mog was highly preoccupied before replacement, but her first post into the game doesn't hold up to scrutiny

Yo I just caught up with the thread. Something that stood out to me while reading the thread is how Evan townleaned Karen for 'trying to be helpful and active' which I did not see the evidence of. Not scumreading you for it tho. Just something I took note of.

Other things:

1. I don't like how Fire and Biscuit just went mia after posting their rqs. Would like to hear more from both of you. Who do think is sus? Or not sus?

2. Slight townleans on Kirby and Dolby based on playstyle alone. It's late and I'm going to bed soon. Might change.

3. Not comfy with Ness and Cleb. No real reason, just cautious.

4. Kat having a similar role so soon btwn games is hard to believe but ehh I'll believe it for now unless Dolby becomes more sus later.

Gonna go to bed now ttyl.

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Oh before I forgot another thing, @Kit can u link to some of your past games? Or at least let us know how many games you've played before. Thanks!
1. Quite a few people had townleaned Karen, I had here locked at this point
2. One and two on her list is fine, however
3. No reasoning, moreover, in the case of Ness she delibrately seems to choose him for looking weaker imo and in the case of Cleb, this leads to what Evan said on the absence of Ayaya in Seroja's post, she's possibly trying to not have to address a scummate by avoiding the issue and pushing the sus onto Cleb
4. This is the big one, first half of four has no logic, but w/e, many on TBT would make the same assumption, but from my pov (knowing I'm town), Kat is literally confirmed and there's no two ways going about it. There is no "becomeing more sus later" on this end on it

I'm currently using Ayaya as scum in Cleb v Ayaya as a sort of pivot read, as a sidenote

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Moreover, I'm feeling better about Ness for the sole reason that his reads are matching how I'm thinking rn

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Kirby, you're lurking, what do you think?
 
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