Mafia TBT Micromafia: The Resistance (Spies Won)

[PunchyTheCat]

holy motherlode

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Also he doesn't even mention Antonio

 

[toadsworthy]

Also he doesn't even mention Antonio

I said its most likely Antonio/Ryumia and Dolby... I don't see Ness or You as scum, then there is me... that just leaves Dolby and Antonio. Nothing has made me believe Antonio is town

 

[Dolby]

I said its most likely Antonio/Ryumia and Dolby... I don't see Ness or You as scum, then there is me... that just leaves Dolby and Antonio. Nothing has made me believe Antonio is town

If you think that Antonio is scum with me, why did he put forward a team without either of us on it? Why do you think he put you and Punchy on it?

If I’m scum, why’d I sink my own team when I could use you as a scapegoat if I wanted it to fail

And why were you still voting yes on the me/you team when you said that you didn’t want to still be on it, even after I drew attention to that fact multiple times

 

[PunchyTheCat]

please don't make this a wallpost war

 

[toadsworthy]

If you think that Antonio is scum with me, why did he put forward a team without either of us on it? Why do you think he put you and Punchy on it?

If I’m scum, why’d I sink my own team when I could use you as a scapegoat if I wanted it to fail

And why were you still voting yes on the me/you team when you said that you didn’t want to still be on it, even after I drew attention to that fact multiple times

you're just asking questions that you damn well know I can't give answers too, theres so many variables that so much game left to play... lets actually get some freaking results and then see what happens.

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If you think that Antonio is scum with me, why did he put forward a team without either of us on it? Why do you think he put you and Punchy on it?

If I’m scum, why’d I sink my own team when I could use you as a scapegoat if I wanted it to fail

And why were you still voting yes on the me/you team when you said that you didn’t want to still be on it, even after I drew attention to that fact multiple times

I was also always ok with me and you for the 1st mission. I was at first not ok with you electing yourself into the mission, because it felt wrong to me, idk why. But I felt confident in making sure people knew it was you if the mission did come back failed... and I also knew that I would not give you any credit if it came back clear, knowing you could've just sent an all clear.

If that didn't come across, then that was my mindset for that time period.

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You were the one who said hard no to You/I for first mission

 

[Dolby]

I was also always ok with me and you for the 1st mission. I was at first not ok with you electing yourself into the mission, because it felt wrong to me, idk why. But I felt confident in making sure people knew it was you if the mission did come back failed... and I also knew that I would not give you any credit if it came back clear, knowing you could've just sent an all clear.

If that didn't come across, then that was my mindset for that time period.

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You were the one who said hard no to You/I for first mission

This is a recap of everything that went down in the first six or so hours I think of your position after I put forward the team, and it is accurate for that time period, but it doesn't include all of the voting process for the first team. But your conclusions to your posts, which give a summary of where you're at really show that you aren't comfortable with me, and definetely seem like you don't want me on the team even though you don't change your vote

Fine don't send me on the first mission, but I don't think Dolby should be in it either then.

Dolby for Scum

You even say that you want a different team for the first mission, but still stick with your yes vote, even after I drew attention to it.

If I go all-in with Dolby being scum... it pretty much clears Ness as town, so I would want Ness and I to be the ones on the mission

And yes, I was the one to literally say hard no to the first mission, but you were also in that camp. You were hardtunneling me after I decided to sus you, barely paying any attention to anyone else until you started to look at them in regards to being teammates of me. BUT, you still thought that I was scum, still actively wanted and was advocating for a different team, and still kept your vote where it was

 

[toadsworthy]

And why were you still voting yes on the me/you team when you said that you didn’t want to still be on it

I was also always ok with me and you for the 1st mission. I was at first not ok with you electing yourself into the mission, because it felt wrong to me, idk why. But I felt confident in making sure people knew it was you if the mission did come back failed... and I also knew that I would not give you any credit if it came back clear, knowing you could've just sent an all clear.

Do you want to rescind your stupid question right there? Because I gave you the answer and you ignored what actually happened.

Me saying:

Fine don't send me on the first mission, but I don't think Dolby should be in it either then.

Was directly after you already were hard tunneling me as scum, and so I never "decided" to not be on the mission with you, I was accepting that you were telling people not to put me on it.

And this:

And yes, I was the one to literally say hard no to the first mission, but you were also in that camp.

Is not the same as what you originally asked in the first quote of this post.

I "tunneled" you, I fully admit that it looks like I am "you suck, you're scum" or whatever the term is, but seeing as how you have been at this schtick from the start, any time I would sus you would've looked like that.

But your conclusions to your posts, which give a summary of where you're at really show that you aren't comfortable with me, and definetely seem like you don't want me on the team even though you don't change your vote

If your main point is that I think you are scum, yet still remained voting for us to go together on the first mission... I already explained why I was ok with it... mostly because I knew whoever went in, it would be a town point and the first mission retrospectively wouldn't be very helpful. Here was the post I made explaining that thought process originally, but I have also restated it i think two more times.

If you felt that I was pushing a scum agenda, why were you ok with being sent on a mission with me

because we would get a town-point and then you would have to try to force yourself or your partner into missions after that point... which is that really something you want to do... no no its not
So then I thought and rethinking it right now, was like maybe he is town too and we can jive on this mission and get a good town point and continue to live our lives.
I like sending me because if I end up with a mission failed I feel confident in convincing everyone you are the very scum filth that you are... so any outcome I was prepared to handle and I guess explains my mellowness.

I already answered that question for you. And yes you are absolutely right that I am not comfortable with you, but I'd rather have you on this initial mission than any subsequent one, especially with everything that has transcended in the 100+ posts since the first time we talked about this. If its you and I on the first mission and it succeeds, cool... I still would think you are scum. If its you and I and it fails, I am validated in the fact that you are indeed scum.

I don't want Dolby in anymore missions from this point on though, unless we are all ready for it to fail

 

[Biancasbotique]

Mission 1 Report: With Ryumia and Vampnessa on the team, the mission has SUCCEEDED.

One point for town.

 

[PunchyTheCat]

expected

 

[Biancasbotique]

It is now punchy's turn to propose three people that will go on a mission.

btw, Ryumia needs replacement and Dad cannot replace so if someone can replace please pm me!

thanks!

 

[PunchyTheCat]

So Dolby is scum, I'm almost completely sure of that,
Vanessa and Ryumia are probables
Toads doesn't really make a teammate for Dolby... so it is Me/Toads/VanessaORyumia

 

[Dolby]

So Dolby is scum, I'm almost completely sure of that,
Vanessa and Ryumia are probables
Toads doesn't really make a teammate for Dolby... so it is Me/Toads/VanessaORyumia

Nonononono

Look Punchy

How is Toads tunneling me looking like town to you (besides the obvious "you can't be teammed thing", fair)

How is Antonio putting Toads on the team and not himself or Ness/Vanessa look like they aren't teammed, or like he's potentially teammed with me

How is Vanessa even a potential teammate for me when I caused Ness to replace out

Also, the alignments kinda have already been drawn in the sand tbh when Vanessa stated her belief in an Antonio/Toads team

 

[Biancasbotique]

Punchy, which one will it be for the third one?

 

[toadsworthy]

How is Toads tunneling me looking like town to you (besides the obvious "you can't be teammed thing", fair)

Bro you've tunneled me this entire time too... honestly, a punchy/dolby team where Dolby is telling punchy what to do isn't out of the question either

 

[PunchyTheCat]

not decided yet Bianca.

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yeah saying Vanessa is your teammate is like grasping at straws. I think there is one scum in this group. Vanessa might need to do something like Punchy/Ryumia for the next team to rule if one of us is scum

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don't put Punchy/Vanessa/Toads in the voting thread, I haven't decided on it yet.

 

[Dolby]

You know what Punchy, if you’re deadsrt on sending Toads, send Antonio’s replacement with him

Punchy, the alignments that have been drawn up through player actions are myself/Vanessa (even though that teams not possible) and Ryu/Toads (If you think that I am teammed with Antonio, why did he say that I’m SUS, echoing Toads position, AND, in the same post not put either of us in his team)

I know that you are heavily considering Antonio as being a teammate for, but look at both Antonio’s and Vanessa interactions with me and Toads. Antonio scumread me and sent neither of us on the mission, and voted for Toads to go on my proposal while I was sinking it. Vanessa townreads me and believes in a Toads/Antonio team. If she is scum without me she had ample room to dogpile on me, if she’s scum with me (which I’m not) then that’s why she townreads me

I believe this gives no room for scum Toads to implicate a non-teammate if this fails besides you given how I feel rn. We should be sending whole alignments in the three person though rather than a mix-match

If you think that me/Antonio is more likely than me/Vanessa, fine send Vanessa, but look at my interactions between her and especially Ness. Scum doesn’t cause scum to ragequit due to pressure

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not decided yet Bianca.

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yeah saying Vanessa is your teammate is like grasping at straws. I think there is one scum in this group. Vanessa might need to do something like Punchy/Ryumia for the next team to rule if one of us is scum

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don't put Punchy/Vanessa/Toads in the voting thread, I haven't decided on it yet.

Who is this addressing?

Because my whole post was about how practically nobody could be my teammate, and that Ness wouldn't have replaced out if I was scum with him

Also, I am aware that it looks like I'm pushing for Antonio to be in, and yes, I am, and that's for one reason

The alignments in the thread right now are Antonio/Toads vs Vanessa/me

When this fails, the spy could technically be in either alignment if we send Vanessa/Toad

If we send Toad/Antonio, it can only be in one alignment

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If you're gonna treat this as validation of me being scum with Antonio and implusively send Vanessa/Toads I swear to god. But look back at me/Antonio interactions. The post where he sends out the team is a good example of "I have to be coaching him for this to make sense" but I also can't since he sent out the team. Then look at Vanessa's support for me, and Antonio's for Toads

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not decided yet Bianca.

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yeah saying Vanessa is your teammate is like grasping at straws. I think there is one scum in this group. Vanessa might need to do something like Punchy/Ryumia for the next team to rule if one of us is scum

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don't put Punchy/Vanessa/Toads in the voting thread, I haven't decided on it yet.

I never said to put out you/Ryu since I think you're pretty clear town and I'm pretty sure no one else has

 

[PunchyTheCat]

The middle was adressing you.
I'm pretty sure this is a Dolby/Toads scumteam

why was I towncleared again

 

[toadsworthy]

Punchy/Vanessa/Toads is a fantastic choice, like honestly kudos because that is perfect what we need right now... I say go for it Punchy

also, Dolby's so hungry to influence your choice that its laughable.

you ever notice that Dolby has only ever placed me on a scum lean, yet still talks and acts like I'm a scum lock...? Dolby have you ever once even thought about me actually being town. If we are both town, then this game is honestly cucked

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The middle was adressing you.
I'm pretty sure this is a Dolby/Toads scumteam

why was I towncleared again

you honestly think me and Dolby are staging all of this....

 

[Ryumia]

It is now punchy's turn to propose three people that will go on a mission.

btw, Ryumia needs replacement and Dad cannot replace so if someone can replace please pm me!

thanks!

Just wanted to say thanks for announcing that I will be out of the game. Really appreciate it. I do feel really bad; however, I am glad that you understand why I had to leave the game behind. It is really relieving to know that I no longer have to feel this bias atmosphere anymore. So... Thanks again.