Mafia TBT Micromafia: The Resistance (Spies Won)

[PunchyTheCat]

Also, I don't scumread you, but please TRY to come up without me on it. Because the obvious conclusion if I'm town is that Toads and Antonio are scum

Cautious scum

 

[Dolby]

Also, I don't scumread you, but please TRY to come up without me on it. Because the obvious conclusion if I'm town is that Toads and Antonio are scum

Cautious scum

Punchy, I am literally offering to vote yes on this if you agree to not block me being on the next three person, cancelling Vanessa's likely no vote on this

What does it tell you? That me/Antonio is unlikely because I'm offering to maj this if you won't block me being on the three person in round 4 and following me and Vanessa's preferred team

How the **** am I being cautious here? I am literally telling you directly to reevaluate

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You know what Punchy, **** it, I'll approve this team even though I know it will fail because unless you think that me/Vanessa is possible we'll win round 5

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When the mission fails, Toads gonna spin it like I knew it was which Is why I voted it for it

But it’s not. You won’t vote for a team with me on it, so I have to prove I’m town, which leaves vote results and Ness rage quitting

 

[Dolby]

Toads, care to explain your vote?

What do you think of me voting yes?

Who is the scum in the group if this passes?

 

[Dolby]

This is 100% failing and it’s almost certainly going to be Toads. He didn’t even bother to explain his vote when I also voted yes for it, or chastise me for voting a team that I know is going to fail

 

[PunchyTheCat]

This is 100% failing and it’s almost certainly going to be Toads. He didn’t even bother to explain his vote when I also voted yes for it, or chastise me for voting a team that I know is going to fail

this is literally reeking obvious scum. why vote yes when you could nay it and explain in detail why it is a bad idea, because I don't see anything wrong with it. If this fails, it is either Vanessa and I've really screwed up with Dolby, or Toads. Think of all possible teammate for toads in case this fails.

 

[Dolby]

this is literally reeking obvious scum. why vote yes when you could nay it and explain in detail why it is a bad idea, because I don't see anything wrong with it. If this fails, it is either Vanessa and I've really screwed up with Dolby, or Toads. Think of all possible teammate for toads in case this fails.

I literally explained in detail, since you’ve acknowledged that me/Vanessa is an impossible team, all I have to do is wait for you to finally ****ing realize that you’re wrong on me once all of my teammates have been exhausted and put forward the obvious town team of me/you/Vanessa

I’ve already explained why it’s bad and that’s because Toads is teamed with Antonio. Technically he could be teamed with you as well, but not Vanessa

If this passes somehow, Vanessa has free reign to propose her and (hopefully) you, but this fails because you’re wrong, and the only town who is actively wrong right now

Why would you vote yes when I’m voting yes when I’m not in the team and you think I’m scum. Conventional logic would say 1. I’m town who’s making a statement or b. My scummate is on the mission

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Vanessa isn’t teamed with Toads because she had free reign to scumread me instead of him when she replaced in

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Actually

Why the **** did both you and Toads vote yes when I'm voting yes and I'm not on the team

If you're certain that I'm scum, again, conventional wisdom would have me having a teammate in the scumteam if I'm voting yes

One of these votes is caused out of conviction that I'm distancing from Antonio (which will be proven wrong tomorrow). Another is because that person is scum

 

[toadsworthy]

I'm voting yes because it's who I think is town.... you're the one right now having a big problem with it

 

[Dolby]

I'm voting yes because it's who I think is town.... you're the one right now having a big problem with it

I’m having a problem with it because I’m not on it and was trying to make Punchy realize that the team isn’t me/Antonio

It should have bothered you when the guy you scumread votes to send in a three person without him on it

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When it fails I’ll at least be validated

 

[toadsworthy]

Is it possible the team could be vanessa and punchy?

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Or Antonio/Vanessa?

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And if you had a problem with it Dolby and are town, why did you vote yes on it

 

[Dolby]

Is it possible the team could be vanessa and punchy?

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Or Antonio/Vanessa?

Ness doesn’t ragequit here when I’m pressuring him. He ragequits when he’s town

 

[toadsworthy]

Ness doesn’t ragequit here when I’m pressuring him. He ragequits when he’s town

I mean thats a bold assumption to justify all of that with.... thats not a waterproof argument is what I'm getting at

 

[Dolby]

Is it possible the team could be vanessa and punchy?

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Or Antonio/Vanessa?

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And if you had a problem with it Dolby and are town, why did you vote yes on it

Because I was trying to make Punchy realize that the team wasn’t me/Antonio because I don’t vote yes when the team is that, but you guys majjed it anyway

Why are you treating this like it’s going to fail already despite voting for it

 

[dedenne]

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well i mean i do have a reason for sussing dolby and town leaning toads but with my lack of explanation skills id be in a worse spot then i already am

 

[cornimer]

I'm positive this mission is going to fail but is there even a point of voting no, it was already maj'd

 

[toadsworthy]

Because I was trying to make Punchy realize that the team wasn’t me/Antonio because I don’t vote yes when the team is that, but you guys majjed it anyway

Why are you treating this like it’s going to fail already despite voting for it

I think its a damn good guess at who is town, but you are the one treating it like its already going to fail. Which if you knew it was gonna fail, you shouldn't have voted it... rather than trying to make a point to punchy.

I'm gearing up for other ideas in the case that it does fail, as well as open to the idea of giving anyone a chance even you. But then you say stupid stuff like this and I'm reminded of how scummy you have been this entire game.

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I'm positive this mission is going to fail but is there even a point of voting no, it was already maj'd

Vanessa, you have not been really adding to this game the entire time... do you have anything more in-depth you can add to help us know where you are at? can you go person to person and do full reads?

 

[cornimer]

This game is a mess lol

Here are my thoughts on some pairings

Dolby/Dedantomia - I don't think it's likely but I don't think it's impossible. Basically, this team is viable if a) we go off the assumption that Dolby's master plan was to tell Antonio to propose a team with neither of them on it so that it looks like they can't possibly be teamed, or b) we go off the assumption that Antonio proposed the team without reading the scumchat. A) is a bit of a stretch. B) is more possible than Dolby seems to believe. Who remembers Korean war mafia? More specifically, who remembers what Antonio did in Korean war mafia? He counterclaimed cop and framed himself and Gavin as the scumteam without checking in with his partner Dad first. So him proposing the team without checking in with Dolby really isn't that far out and should still be a possibility. However this still isn't one of my top picks for teams.

Dolby/Toads - if they're a team they both deserve oscars

Me/Dolby - impossible tbh, Ness wouldn't quit if they were partners

Dolby/Punchy - very possible. Punchy would be by #1 pick for Dolby's partner. And with the way Dolby has been acting lately I am not heavily favouring this alignment as town over Dedantomia/Toads. But I am slightly favouring it just because idk why Punchy would bounce back and forth so much as scum.

Punchy/anyone else except Dolby - I mean it's possible and something nobody else has really considered, but meh

Toads/Dedantomia - Most likely imo

So I guess that means my ideal mission would be me/Punchy/Dolby but I don't think that's going to happen lol

This was my post with thoughts on all the teams, nothing has changed since I made it

 

[toadsworthy]

@Dolby, do you think Vanessa/Ness and Antonio or Vanessa/Ness and Punchy could be a possible team based on interactions?
could you live in a world where I am town because I am, if I can get over how annoying and scummy you have come across. Not saying its what I want to pursue, not saying this is gonna fail, but I want to know all my options so that we can figure it out

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This was my post with thoughts on all the teams, nothing has changed since I made it

I don't want teams, I want your reads on each individual

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why does no one answer the actual questions.... why is everyone gotta be so short, sarcastic, and distant. If this is what mafia games have become, yeah I may be out after this

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also if it fails... this tells me that one of Vanessa or Punchy is on the scum team. And I can re evaluate from there

 

[cornimer]

I don't want teams, I want your reads on each individual

Oh ok sorry

In order of least-scuminess to scuminess I would say Punchy > Dolby > You > Dedantomia. I'm not counting anyone out from possibly being scum, but Punchy has been a bit all over the place which is typical of his town self. Death tunneling like he has been doing to Dolby is also typical of his town self (recall him vs Evan in his first game). In terms of tone, I think you (toads) actually sound less scummy than Dolby who has been very forceful and seems a bit desperate pulling up giant wallposts against a tiny post, but I can see you on teams more easily than Dolby who has beef with everyone basically. Dedantomia is definitely my top suspect because Antonio's team choice made no sense and Dedenne hasn't really done anything to change my mind about that slot.

 

[toadsworthy]

Oh ok sorry

In order of least-scuminess to scuminess I would say Punchy > Dolby > You > Dedantomia. I'm not counting anyone out from possibly being scum, but Punchy has been a bit all over the place which is typical of his town self. Death tunneling like he has been doing to Dolby is also typical of his town self (recall him vs Evan in his first game). In terms of tone, I think you (toads) actually sound less scummy than Dolby who has been very forceful and seems a bit desperate pulling up giant wallposts against a tiny post, but I can see you on teams more easily than Dolby who has beef with everyone basically. Dedantomia is definitely my top suspect because Antonio's team choice made no sense and Dedenne hasn't really done anything to change my mind about that slot.

Don't you think it would be good for the scum team to distance themselves? This idea of having different "teams" that we have talked about, where two sets of players on opposite sides and then we start naturally putting the missions grouped into each team. Scum has a person on each team and therefore always make it into the mission. I definitely think Dolby is capable of doing something like that too and think his posts air that way. I don't think its out of character for Dolby to be coaching or telling his partner what to do in scum thread... especially to account for some of the more weird or out of character actions from some people, Dedenne/Ryumia/Antonio or Punchy

 

[cornimer]

Don't you think it would be good for the scum team to distance themselves? This idea of having different "teams" that we have talked about, where two sets of players on opposite sides and then we start naturally putting the missions grouped into each team. Scum has a person on each team and therefore always make it into the mission. I definitely think Dolby is capable of doing something like that too and think his posts air that way. I don't think its out of character for Dolby to be coaching or telling his partner what to do in scum thread... especially to account for some of the more weird or out of character actions from some people, Dedenne/Ryumia/Antonio or Punchy

Definitely it's a good idea to distance, but also for scum in this game it's important to make sure either you or your partner get sent on the mission. So if your partner is scumreading you, and everyone else is scumreading you too, like is the case with Dolby, he'll never be able to get sent on a mission and that's a bit of a lost cause. Now the only person not completely scumreading Dolby is me, but we are obviously not partners because of the Ness/Dolby blowup. So if Dolby is scum, his partner (probably Punchy) has to ensure he is always on the mission because Dolby basically cannot get picked for any missions unless Dolby himself or maybe me is picking. So it's just a lot of extra work yknow? Whereas if his partner was even null-reading him, he could get picked for missions way easier (although yes it might be a bit more obvious)

And in terms of partners, I'm very confident you and Dolby are not a team because that would be pretty insane lol. So if he's scum it's probably with Punchy, but possibly with Dedantomia, in which case yes they are clearly distancing.

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Eh you know what I'll vote yes to this mission, if it somehow passes that means it really might be a Dolby/Dedantomia team after all!