Spawn rates for Insects were stealth-nerfed

[JKDOS]

besides the (completely unreliable) stalk market.

Unless you don't have Nintendo Online, there's nothing unreliable about the Stalk Market, especially when you find hosts who charge IGB and not NMT.

I've kind of stayed away from the Stalk Market because it was too easy to make millions. I was comfortable catching the peacock butterflies while going back and forth my town throughout the day. Now that Nintendo has nerfed this and interest rates, I'm just going to do Stalks out of spite to show Nintendo they failed to nerf my bank. Besides, bridges, ramps, and moving isn't cheap.

 

[alitwick]

That’s disappointing to hear, especially given how close we are to summer. I was really looking forward to catching a ton of beetles and making bank off of them. It was my tried and true method in WW & NL. :C

Stalks are the only way now. Can’t pay off my inclines/bridges/house expansions in a reasonable amount of time without it.

 

[JKDOS]

I don’t understand why they nerfed the rates by so much? This only hurts legitimate players

Bank interest, maybe, as for bugs, hackers don't need nerfed bugs to be hurt, neither do TT'ers. Nintendo intended to hurt legitimate players with this.

 

[DJStarstryker]

Bank interest, maybe, as for bugs, hackers don't need nerfed bugs to be hurt, neither do TT'ers. Nintendo intended to hurt legitimate players with this.

Agreed. People abusing mechanics in the game aren't bug hunting for bells.

Sure, people got a lot of money from tarantula islands, but it's not like they come up all the time. I have never found the actual tarantula island. The closest thing I've found is the bamboo island, and that's a LOT of work to chop down all of the bamboo to get it out of the way. I tried it once and I kept getting too many mole cricket spawns. I didn't get a single tarantula spawn, and I ran around for nearly an hour AFTER the time it took to remove all of the plants. It was taking too much time and just felt not worth it.

Even if you get a tarantula island, it's not as fruitful per night as visiting the NL island a few times per night, year-round. Unless you use the stalk market, you simply aren't getting bells legitimately as fast as you could in NL.

 

[kirbbys]

Yeah....Screw making an honest living, I'm going to invest in stalks full time.

I was going to write the same thing. I finally made over 1 million this week from turnips with my friend having a 500+ selling price. Will continue selling my $1k+ bugs to Flick (I don't finish enough for CJ at the moment, covered up my rivers), but I'm fine making my character a Bear of Wall Street (got her a bear hat).

 

[Miss Misty]

I feel like this is Nintendo trying to force people into buying Online memberships. Because DJStarstryker and JKDOS are right, this is targeting people who don't TT, who don't min-max their turnips by buying from islands for 90 and selling for 600 week after week. This is targeting people who try to earn what they need from doing things around their own islands. Nintendo is trying to back those people into a corner and tell them that the only way to consistently earn money is to get an Online membership so they are guaranteed access to good stalk market towns.

 

[Larimar]

I really wouldnt have minded if it was a small nerf, but these are MASSIVE hits to people's ways of making bells. I already mentioned in a previous thread that it's starting to feel like nintendo is trying to OVER-balance some features in the game, and its making them way too much trouble than its worth

Cant wait for them to remove bugs, money trees, fish and selling all items except turnips entirely. You Will Play The Stalk Market And You Will Like It

 

[thelonewanderer]

Yeah....Screw making an honest living, I'm going to invest in stalks full time.

Not only that but my playtime has been severely cut. Once I'm done with everything, instead of playing for a few more hours catching butterflies which allow me to fish, dig clams, pop balloons at the same time since its all center around the beach. I had a total of only 2 hours of playtime yesterday. I now might have to look into other game to keep me company during this quarantine because Nintendo literally just screw over non-tters and those who don't abuse the stalk market.

I don't see it changing today either especially since I'm still 6 days from moving all buildings to even start terraforming. I been so bum out I started to go back to old habit that I stop prior to this game coming out.

 

[Tako]

I'm part of the minority who welcome the change. I've been playing Animal Crossing everyday without fail, and I'm starting to notice that I'm filling up my museum way too fast. By the third week of March, I have already collected all the fishes and bugs I could get in both the Northern and Southern hemisphere (my boyfriend is in the Southern hemisphere). When April rolled around, I only had a small handful of new fishes and bugs to catch before I was done with it.

For a game that was meant to be enjoyed for years, this is just too much progression in too little time.

When Nintendo designed the game, they probably did not anticipate that the world will be going into lock down, which gives everyone more time on their hands. They probably anticipated that players would need more time to collect all the fishes and bugs. I'm pretty sure they intended for us to have to hunt down the bugs and fishes we're lacking, and even having to wait several months for the next opportunity to catch them.

 

[randomforeignguy]

It seems 1.2.0 as a whole had a lot of income reducing changes made. Only one of which was publicly stated.

Yea idk why they are trying to nerf income but personally i think the spawn rate on all rare bugs and fish is too high... Or was....

 

[ForbiddenSecrets]

Eh re-balancing happens in games so I'm not surprised. For the northern hemi in April 4 bugs got lowered and 28 went up (per Ninji's data). Obviously they lowered the rarer ones but man did those Pea Butterflies spawn way more than I expected for a rare bug. Agrias, Madagascan, and Rajah went up a tiny but. So did the Orchid Mantis and Jewel beetle which are also comparable in cost. It doesn't fully make up the Pea Butterfly spawn nerf but meh. It's not like their goal was to make people suffer.

 

[Annika.]

Those nerfs seem unreasonably extreme, especially for the p. butterflies. I can understand it compared to the other games, but they really should make tarantula/scorpion spawns more frequent on islands (or just kept it the same as before while tweaking our own island).

They also made a lot of common furniture so expensive, so I don't get why they back down from the new economy they seem to have set up. Online players can make so much money from turnips (and many people glitched bells), why would you nerf regular singleplayer gameplay?

 

[DJStarstryker]

I'm part of the minority who welcome the change. I've been playing Animal Crossing everyday without fail, and I'm starting to notice that I'm filling up my museum way too fast. By the third week of March, I have already collected all the fishes and bugs I could get in both the Northern and Southern hemisphere (my boyfriend is in the Southern hemisphere). When April rolled around, I only had a small handful of new fishes and bugs to catch before I was done with it.

Oh, at first I was confused by your post. I feel like I'm filling up my museum at the same rate I always have. But I haven't gotten to visit a southern hemisphere island.

If you travel between the two hemispheres, you absolutely will fill it up quicker. I feel like Nintendo should've known people visiting each other for that was a thing. They probably did - I imagine that is partly why we didn't get artwork until over a month after the game was released.

 

[Sudsofsplash]

yeah i noticed this when my flower dump had no butterflies around it at all

 

[Bioness]

Eh re-balancing happens in games so I'm not surprised. For the northern hemi in April 4 bugs got lowered and 28 went up (per Ninji's data). Obviously they lowered the rarer ones but man did those Pea Butterflies spawn way more than I expected for a rare bug. Agrias, Madagascan, and Rajah went up a tiny but. So did the Orchid Mantis and Jewel beetle which are also comparable in cost. It doesn't fully make up the Pea Butterfly spawn nerf but meh. It's not like their goal was to make people suffer.

True, but it should also be the goal of the company to communicate these changes. They did this without letting people know. The cynic in me believes they thought their player base too ignorant or stupid to notice. The interest rate changes were something that anyone would have picked up instantly, but bug spawns aren't so easily tracked.

 

[thegunpowderincident]

I wonder if turning regular (in my case, usually bamboo) islands into tarantula islands is still viable with them having a nerfed spawn rate. It already took a lot of chasing away of wharf roaches and tiger beetles.

 

[Morningowl]

I think it little extreme to say they think we too stupid or ignorant to notice. Yes the communication could of been better. I am indifferent to the change mostly because of my play style. I understand the frustration. I am guessing the bug were not as balance as they intended. Doesn’t mean you have agree with their intentions.

 

[ForbiddenSecrets]

True, but it should also be the goal of the company to communicate these changes. They did this without letting people know. The cynic in me believes they thought their player base too ignorant or stupid to notice. The interest rate changes were something that anyone would have picked up instantly, but bug spawns aren't so easily tracked.

They aren't doing something shady to try to get us to buy micro transactions or anything like that and honestly this is probably not the last time they will adjust spawn rates. Should they have told us? Sure. Maybe they felt that unlike Splatoon 2, which has detailed notes on weapon changes, this game was more casual and it wasn't warranted the same way. I don't know their reasoning but I sincerely doubt they were sitting around thinking of ways to get one past us. They felt, in their game, the spawn rates were not where they wanted them and they changed it. It's not that deep.

 

[Lellyna]

That’s very sneaky of them to do a stealth nerf but people already figured out something was with the spawns so it was a matter of time before the info got out

 

[Blue Triangles]

I understand that updates are to iron out bugs in the game but I didn't realise it'd be bugs of that variety.

Another observation; I normally spawn around 8-10 hybrids per day but today just a lousy 3. I hope they haven't decreased hybrid rates too.