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Wow....there are TONS of games rated E-T that have great stories. I'm going to list a few, but I probably could go on all day...

I'll first mention Zelda. While the stories are by no means wonderful original masterpieces, and almost all the games have the same story, they are simple to understand for all video game players. Just read what Tyeforce posted. Another game with a good story is Okami. Shadow Collosus also had a good story, so did Mother, the Metal Gear Solid franchise, Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door, Legend of Dragoon, The Secret of Mana, Chrono Cross and Chrono Trigger, ICO, The World Ends With You, and about all Final Fantasy games 7+.

Those games might not have blood and gore or extreme amounts of violence, but that doesn't mean they have bad, shallow stories.
Zelda has a decent story, but it's nothing compared to some M rated games. I personally like a good, deep and fulfilling storyline, I don't get that from the hollowed out storylines in the large majority in games rated lower than M.

Now I know nothing about Okami or Shadow Collosus, so I can't comment on those but the only ones out of that whole list you gave me that I agree with are Final Fantasy, The World Ends With You and Metal Gear Solid (and Metal Gear Solid is rated M, btw).
You get more out of the 'experience' of shadow of the colasus than the actual story.
Pretty much.

It goes beginning cutscene -> fight 16 bosses -> ending cutscene.
 
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Wow....there are TONS of games rated E-T that have great stories. I'm going to list a few, but I probably could go on all day...

I'll first mention Zelda. While the stories are by no means wonderful original masterpieces, and almost all the games have the same story, they are simple to understand for all video game players. Just read what Tyeforce posted. Another game with a good story is Okami. Shadow Collosus also had a good story, so did Mother, the Metal Gear Solid franchise, Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door, Legend of Dragoon, The Secret of Mana, Chrono Cross and Chrono Trigger, ICO, The World Ends With You, and about all Final Fantasy games 7+.

Those games might not have blood and gore or extreme amounts of violence, but that doesn't mean they have bad, shallow stories.
Zelda has a decent story, but it's nothing compared to some M rated games. I personally like a good, deep and fulfilling storyline, I don't get that from the hollowed out storylines in the large majority in games rated lower than M.

Now I know nothing about Okami or Shadow Collosus, so I can't comment on those but the only ones out of that whole list you gave me that I agree with are Final Fantasy, The World Ends With You and Metal Gear Solid (and Metal Gear Solid is rated M, btw).
You get more out of the 'experience' of shadow of the colasus than the actual story.
But then we're not talking about gameplay or "experience" here.. we're talking about story.
 
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Zelda has a decent story, but it's nothing compared to some M rated games. I personally like a good, deep and fulfilling storyline, I don't get that from the hollowed out storylines in the large majority in games rated lower than M.

Now I know nothing about Okami or Shadow Collosus, so I can't comment on those but the only ones out of that whole list you gave me that I agree with are Final Fantasy, The World Ends With You and Metal Gear Solid (and Metal Gear Solid is rated M, btw).
You get more out of the 'experience' of shadow of the colasus than the actual story.
But then we're not talking about gameplay or "experience" here.. we're talking about story.
Yeah, it doent really explain much... It's a really good game for the premise behind it, but that's not really much to do with 'story'
 
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Most obviously, you're a Call of Duty fanboy. And don't try to deny it, because you've made it very clear that you are. And you don't have to be a fanboy of a specific company. You can be a fanboy of a certain group of games, in your case, mostly FPS games.

And I don't have to play M-rated games to know the reason they're rated how they are. (Hint: It says why on the box.)
LOL what the *censored.3.0* dude, I don't even own a Call of Duty game. I haven't touched a CoD title in months. And FPS games? ahahahahaa, fail on your part dude, the only FPS I've touched in the last 2 months is Bioshock, which is simply an amazing title, with one of the most intriguing stories you'll ever come across in a video game. Other than Bioshock, I've been playing, Gears of War, Resident Evil 5, Limbo, Batman Arkham Asylum, Assassins Creed 1 and 2 and Alan Wake. All third person games...

Wow, goddammit kid, just looking at my recently played games, and realizing you've never touched them, you're missing out on SOOOOOO much being stuck in your own little Nintendo world.
For not even owning a Call of Duty game, you sure do like to hype Black Ops. I mean, just how many threads have you posted about it? Yeah, I thought so. I'm guessing the only reason why you don't own a Call of Duty game right now is because you sold the ones that you did own to make some money, right?

And I didn't mean to say FPS, I meant just "shooter", but whatever. You mostly like the typical violent, popular M-rated games. And that's fine and all, but then you go ahead and start bashing any game that you don't like, which really, really makes you look like an arrogant, ignorant fanboy.
I made a thread or two about the first trailer that came out MONTHS ago, when i still played call of duty. And I made one the other day about the multiplayer trailer to say that i thought it looked like crap. And yes I sold them, but to make money? no. I have money, I don't need to sell games, I sold them because I don't want *censored.2.0*ty games in my collection. And half the games i mentioned to you aren't even shooters. ie; batman, and assassins creed 1 and 2. And telling you to frow up a bit and go try something new makes me an arrogant, ignorant fanboy? umm what?
 
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No, games aren't rated M just because they have a deeper story. Besides, there are plenty of T, E10+, and even E games that have very deep stories. M-rated games are rated such because they contain explicit content not suitable for younger kids. Calling it "Mature" is a bit misleading, really, because there's nothing "mature" about it. A better rating would be Explicit, or Restricted.

Of course, none of this will get through to your ignorant fanboy mind. It's funny that you call me a fanboy, when you're an even bigger, ignorant one yourself.
Care to give an example of any T, E10+ and E games that have deep stories?
There are plenty. Zelda games are a good example, and while their stories aren't overly complex, they have a nice balance of simple yet deep plots. And some titles are deeper than others, such as Twilight Princess. Anyway, then there's the whole Metroid franchise, with Other M coming soon, which is overflowing with story. And even cartoonish, comical games can have deep, indulging stories, such as the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi series. They may not deal with dark themes and complex plots, but they certainly have captivating, emotion-filled stories. And don't even get me started on EarthBound/MOTHER.
This just shows how arrogant and uninformed you are. I REALLY hope you're not implying that zelda and mario and luigi, or even metroid, can top stories like bioshock, alan wake, or assassins creed 2.
 
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No, games aren't rated M just because they have a deeper story. Besides, there are plenty of T, E10+, and even E games that have very deep stories. M-rated games are rated such because they contain explicit content not suitable for younger kids. Calling it "Mature" is a bit misleading, really, because there's nothing "mature" about it. A better rating would be Explicit, or Restricted.

Of course, none of this will get through to your ignorant fanboy mind. It's funny that you call me a fanboy, when you're an even bigger, ignorant one yourself.
Care to give an example of any T, E10+ and E games that have deep stories?
Wow....there are TONS of games rated E-T that have great stories. I'm going to list a few, but I probably could go on all day...

I'll first mention Zelda. While the stories are by no means wonderful original masterpieces, and almost all the games have the same story, they are simple to understand for all video game players. Just read what Tyeforce posted. Another game with a good story is Okami. Shadow Collosus also had a good story, so did Mother, the Metal Gear Solid franchise, Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door, Legend of Dragoon, The Secret of Mana, Chrono Cross and Chrono Trigger, ICO, The World Ends With You, and about all Final Fantasy games 7+.

Those games might not have blood and gore or extreme amounts of violence, but that doesn't mean they have bad, shallow stories.
Oh, I know there are games under M that have decent stories, but generally, the M ones still surpass them.

And not every game rated Mature is filled with blood and gore, and extreme amounts of violence. It's irritating that everyone under 14 doesn't realize that.
 
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Care to give an example of any T, E10+ and E games that have deep stories?
There are plenty. Zelda games are a good example, and while their stories aren't overly complex, they have a nice balance of simple yet deep plots. And some titles are deeper than others, such as Twilight Princess. Anyway, then there's the whole Metroid franchise, with Other M coming soon, which is overflowing with story. And even cartoonish, comical games can have deep, indulging stories, such as the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi series. They may not deal with dark themes and complex plots, but they certainly have captivating, emotion-filled stories. And don't even get me started on EarthBound/MOTHER.
This just shows how arrogant and uninformed you are. I REALLY hope you're not implying that zelda and mario and luigi, or even metroid, can top stories like bioshock, alan wake, or assassins creed 2.
No, because then they wouldn't be Zelda, mario, and Metroid. So what if the games don't fit your style? Is it your place to criticize them? And do you really think you can change his mind?
 
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There are plenty. Zelda games are a good example, and while their stories aren't overly complex, they have a nice balance of simple yet deep plots. And some titles are deeper than others, such as Twilight Princess. Anyway, then there's the whole Metroid franchise, with Other M coming soon, which is overflowing with story. And even cartoonish, comical games can have deep, indulging stories, such as the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi series. They may not deal with dark themes and complex plots, but they certainly have captivating, emotion-filled stories. And don't even get me started on EarthBound/MOTHER.
This just shows how arrogant and uninformed you are. I REALLY hope you're not implying that zelda and mario and luigi, or even metroid, can top stories like bioshock, alan wake, or assassins creed 2.
No, because then they wouldn't be Zelda, mario, and Metroid. So what if the games don't fit your style? Is it your place to criticize them? And do you really think you can change his mind?
I know that's not what they are, and that's why I don't care to play games like that on a regular basis, and that's fine because that's my opinion. But HE is actually trying to tell me that they have deep indulging stories. which they in no way whatsoever have.
 
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This just shows how arrogant and uninformed you are. I REALLY hope you're not implying that zelda and mario and luigi, or even metroid, can top stories like bioshock, alan wake, or assassins creed 2.
No, because then they wouldn't be Zelda, mario, and Metroid. So what if the games don't fit your style? Is it your place to criticize them? And do you really think you can change his mind?
I know that's not what they are, and that's why I don't care to play games like that on a regular basis, and that's fine because that's my opinion. But HE is actually trying to tell me that they have deep indulging stories. which they in no way whatsoever have.
Some do, such as Metroid.
 
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No, because then they wouldn't be Zelda, mario, and Metroid. So what if the games don't fit your style? Is it your place to criticize them? And do you really think you can change his mind?
I know that's not what they are, and that's why I don't care to play games like that on a regular basis, and that's fine because that's my opinion. But HE is actually trying to tell me that they have deep indulging stories. which they in no way whatsoever have.
Some do, such as Metroid.
Ehh, not so much. I've played through almost all of them, they were never too engaging story wise.
 
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I know that's not what they are, and that's why I don't care to play games like that on a regular basis, and that's fine because that's my opinion. But HE is actually trying to tell me that they have deep indulging stories. which they in no way whatsoever have.
Some do, such as Metroid.
Ehh, not so much. I've played through almost all of them, they were never too engaging story wise.
ALL of them? Including the Zero Mission ones, Prime ones, and even Other M? The story lines are pretty engaging in most, if not all of them to me.
 
I like how everyone here is ganging up on David, making him out to be the bad guy, when in actuality he's the only one here not acting like an idiot. You guys really need to read what he's saying instead of twisting his words.
 
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Some do, such as Metroid.
Ehh, not so much. I've played through almost all of them, they were never too engaging story wise.
ALL of them? Including the Zero Mission ones, Prime ones, and even Other M? The story lines are pretty engaging in most, if not all of them to me.
None of those had stories? Except Other M. Fusion is the only one that had story to it. Everything else was pretty much Point A to Point B.
 
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Ehh, not so much. I've played through almost all of them, they were never too engaging story wise.
ALL of them? Including the Zero Mission ones, Prime ones, and even Other M? The story lines are pretty engaging in most, if not all of them to me.
None of those had stories? Except Other M. Fusion is the only one that had story to it. Everything else was pretty much Point A to Point B.
The Prime series had some good story lines.
 
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ALL of them? Including the Zero Mission ones, Prime ones, and even Other M? The story lines are pretty engaging in most, if not all of them to me.
None of those had stories? Except Other M. Fusion is the only one that had story to it. Everything else was pretty much Point A to Point B.
The Prime series had some good story lines.
Samus gets a distress call, Samus sees Ridley fly to Talon, she flies after him, jumps through lava, ice, etc worlds and solves puzzles, then finds 12 artifacts and defeats ridley....

2nd and 3rd parts weren't any more complex than the first.
 
Other M is the first metroid to be properly story-driven, from what it looks like so far, anyway.

Also, Samus is much more badass in it.
 
No offense Tye, but I'm really starting to doubt you've ever actually played an M game, because it seems you have no idea of what is in an actual mature game from what you posted.
 
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No offense Tye, but I'm really starting to doubt you've ever actually played an M game, because it seems you have no idea of what is in an actual mature game from what you posted.
I doubt he's ever touched one.
 
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This just shows how arrogant and uninformed you are. I REALLY hope you're not implying that zelda and mario and luigi, or even metroid, can top stories like bioshock, alan wake, or assassins creed 2.
No, because then they wouldn't be Zelda, mario, and Metroid. So what if the games don't fit your style? Is it your place to criticize them? And do you really think you can change his mind?
I know that's not what they are, and that's why I don't care to play games like that on a regular basis, and that's fine because that's my opinion. But HE is actually trying to tell me that they have deep indulging stories. which they in no way whatsoever have.
They do. Some more than others, yes, and maybe not many of them are as complex as some M-rated games, but you're a fool if you think that a game can't be bright and colorful and still have a great story. Besides, in video games, gameplay comes before all. Story is a nice bonus, but what really matters is the gameplay.

Anyway, you're missing my point. I'm just trying to correct you. You think that M-rated games are rated such because of their deep stories, which is ridiculous. M-rated games are rated M because they "have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language." (Straight from ESRB's website.)
 
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