Sceptile or Venusaur

DashS

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which one do you think is better state and move wise. The one you say is best will be my starter in platinum after I trade it from diamond. Also can anyone think of some move sets for the best of the two.
 
Sceptile. Due to it can learn fighting moves and "myballsasour" third evaloution can not.
 
Nate said:
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if i were to have sceptile i would give it grass whistle to put a dangerous foe to sleep so that it can use swords dance to get its power up or switch out to another Pokemon and let them power up while the opponent sleeps then take it out. If Venusaur were my choice i would give it sleep powder to do what sceptile does but instead of boosting my attack I would raise its evasiveness until the point where it becomes untouchable! I would also give both pokemon earthquake and have sceptile learn leaf blade and Venusaur would have energy ball. :gyroidsideways:
 
DashS said:
if i were to have sceptile i would give it grass whistle to put a dangerous foe to sleep so that it can use swords dance to get its power up or switch out to another Pokemon and let them power up while the opponent sleeps then take it out. If Venusaur were my choice i would give it sleep powder to do what sceptile does but instead of boosting my attack I would raise its evasiveness until the point where it becomes untouchable! I would also give both pokemon earthquake and have sceptile learn leaf blade and Venusaur would have energy ball. :gyroidsideways:
that's a pretty clever strategy :O

But i'd go with the Venusaur (it might be a little bit slower) but i think it's movepool is better
sleep powder has better accuracy over grass whistle

so i'd give him the moves; sleep powder, double team, solar beam & sludge bomb
and ev train him in hp & special attack, owh and a modest nature (if you are an ev-trainer)

though i'm not really sure if you should choose Venusaur, because Sceptile has a great speed stat ..
but if you just need a pkmn to get your opponent to sleep and then raise your evasiveness/attack i'll go with venusaur, but if you're looking for a fast attacker then sceptile is your best option

but if you're going to use venusaur in a double battle you could think about giving a other in your team the moves sunny day and perhaps even trick room :r

but i actually got a question, i've never heard of or even seen this strategy, so how many times should you use double team in order for your pok
 
Rene said:
DashS said:
if i were to have sceptile i would give it grass whistle to put a dangerous foe to sleep so that it can use swords dance to get its power up or switch out to another Pokemon and let them power up while the opponent sleeps then take it out. If Venusaur were my choice i would give it sleep powder to do what sceptile does but instead of boosting my attack I would raise its evasiveness until the point where it becomes untouchable! I would also give both pokemon earthquake and have sceptile learn leaf blade and Venusaur would have energy ball. :gyroidsideways:
that's a pretty clever strategy :O

But i'd go with the Venusaur (it might be a little bit slower) but i think it's movepool is better
sleep powder has better accuracy over grass whistle

so i'd give him the moves; sleep powder, double team, solar beam & sludge bomb
and ev train him in hp & special attack, owh and a modest nature (if you are an ev-trainer)

though i'm not really sure if you should choose Venusaur, because Sceptile has a great speed stat ..
but if you just need a pkmn to get your opponent to sleep and then raise your evasiveness/attack i'll go with venusaur, but if you're looking for a fast attacker then sceptile is your best option

but if you're going to use venusaur in a double battle you could think about giving a other in your team the moves sunny day and perhaps even trick room :r

but i actually got a question, i've never heard of or even seen this strategy, so how many times should you use double team in order for your pok
 
cool :O
i think i'll ev train such a venusaur and keep it as an extra for my fire/grass team :D
 
john102 said:
okay so you'd say sceptile; why? come on give us a moveset, nature and where are you going to put your ev's in?

at least i posted why i thought which one would be the best option and how he could train them ..
Rene said:
But i'd go with the Venusaur (it might be a little bit slower) but i think it's movepool is better
sleep powder has better accuracy over grass whistle

so i'd give him the moves; sleep powder, double team, solar beam & sludge bomb
and ev train him in hp & special attack, owh and a modest nature (if you are an ev-trainer)

though i'm not really sure if you should choose Venusaur, because Sceptile has a great speed stat ..
but if you just need a pkmn to get your opponent to sleep and then raise your evasiveness/attack i'll go with venusaur, but if you're looking for a fast attacker then sceptile is your best option

but if you're going to use venusaur in a double battle you could think about giving a other in your team the moves sunny day and perhaps even trick room
 
I'm more of the offensive Trainer. I'd suggest Sceptile because he only has 1 type. If you chose Venusaur, you'd be in trouble with not only Grass's weaknesses, but Psychic and Ground too! Also, give Sceptile some EV training in the ATK Department. He's better suited for Special attacks, but if you using Leaf Blade(A Very Popular and potent move), I suggest you do that. Here's a Move Set I suggest, but your going to have to see move tutors for some Moves.

Leaf Blade
Thunder Punch(For Flying Types, Move Tutor)
Mud-Slap(For Fire Types, Move Tutor)
Sword Dance(Since you wanted it anyway :) )

You could also substitute Mud slap or Thunder Punch with Drain punch, for a healing attack.
DON'T FORGET ABOUT EGG MOVES, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE VARIETY!
Oh, and also, try leveling up it's DEF and SP.DEF if you can(Use Iron for example)
This is my opinion though....
 
Gamer-X said:
I'm more of the offensive Trainer. I'd suggest Sceptile because he only has 1 type. If you chose Venusaur, you'd be in trouble with not only Grass's weaknesses, but Psychic and Ground too! Also, give Sceptile some EV training in the ATK Department. He's better suited for Special attacks, but if you using Leaf Blade(A Very Popular and potent move), I suggest you do that. Here's a Move Set I suggest, but your going to have to see move tutors for some Moves.

Leaf Blade
Thunder Punch(For Flying Types, Move Tutor)
Mud-Slap(For Fire Types, Move Tutor)
Sword Dance(Since you wanted it anyway :) )

You could also substitute Mud slap or Thunder Punch with Drain punch, for a healing attack.
DON'T FORGET ABOUT EGG MOVES, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE VARIETY!
Oh, and also, try leveling up it's DEF and SP.DEF if you can(Use Iron for example)
This is my opinion though....
hmmmm, do we have a new pokemon fan in the forum? I'll have to battle you sometime.
 
Gamer-X said:
I'm more of the offensive Trainer. I'd suggest Sceptile because he only has 1 type. If you chose Venusaur, you'd be in trouble with not only Grass's weaknesses, but Psychic and Ground too! Also, give Sceptile some EV training in the ATK Department. He's better suited for Special attacks, but if you using Leaf Blade(A Very Popular and potent move), I suggest you do that. Here's a Move Set I suggest, but your going to have to see move tutors for some Moves.

Leaf Blade
Thunder Punch(For Flying Types, Move Tutor)
Mud-Slap(For Fire Types, Move Tutor)
Sword Dance(Since you wanted it anyway :) )

You could also substitute Mud slap or Thunder Punch with Drain punch, for a healing attack.
DON'T FORGET ABOUT EGG MOVES, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE VARIETY!
Oh, and also, try leveling up it's DEF and SP.DEF if you can(Use Iron for example)
This is my opinion though....
Friends don't let friends teach thier pokemon mud slap

That move is balls awful

Sceptile can learn earthquake, amirite?
That would be better not only in power, but alo because it's a physical move
 
TheSilverSkeeter said:
Gamer-X said:
I'm more of the offensive Trainer. I'd suggest Sceptile because he only has 1 type. If you chose Venusaur, you'd be in trouble with not only Grass's weaknesses, but Psychic and Ground too! Also, give Sceptile some EV training in the ATK Department. He's better suited for Special attacks, but if you using Leaf Blade(A Very Popular and potent move), I suggest you do that. Here's a Move Set I suggest, but your going to have to see move tutors for some Moves.

Leaf Blade
Thunder Punch(For Flying Types, Move Tutor)
Mud-Slap(For Fire Types, Move Tutor)
Sword Dance(Since you wanted it anyway :) )

You could also substitute Mud slap or Thunder Punch with Drain punch, for a healing attack.
DON'T FORGET ABOUT EGG MOVES, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE VARIETY!
Oh, and also, try leveling up it's DEF and SP.DEF if you can(Use Iron for example)
This is my opinion though....
Friends don't let friends teach thier pokemon mud slap

That move is balls awful

Sceptile can learn earthquake, amirite?
That would be better not only in power, but alo because it's a physical move
Actually, Yeah, that's a good Idea. I'd use it Temporarily because of it's 100% lowering Accuracy effect. But yeah, I didn't think about that. Do that instead! :D
And yes, your correct, it is more effective because it's Physical.
 
john102 said:
Gamer-X said:
I'm more of the offensive Trainer. I'd suggest Sceptile because he only has 1 type. If you chose Venusaur, you'd be in trouble with not only Grass's weaknesses, but Psychic and Ground too! Also, give Sceptile some EV training in the ATK Department. He's better suited for Special attacks, but if you using Leaf Blade(A Very Popular and potent move), I suggest you do that. Here's a Move Set I suggest, but your going to have to see move tutors for some Moves.

Leaf Blade
Thunder Punch(For Flying Types, Move Tutor)
Mud-Slap(For Fire Types, Move Tutor)
Sword Dance(Since you wanted it anyway :) )

You could also substitute Mud slap or Thunder Punch with Drain punch, for a healing attack.
DON'T FORGET ABOUT EGG MOVES, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE VARIETY!
Oh, and also, try leveling up it's DEF and SP.DEF if you can(Use Iron for example)
This is my opinion though....
hmmmm, do we have a new pokemon fan in the forum? I'll have to battle you sometime.
Sorry man, I'm WAY Behind. I'm still In FREAKING ETERNA! My most powerful is lvl 20. If I make it to the Battle Frontier, I'll accept your Challenge! I also have Diamond, and the highest is lvl 80, if you want to battle that one. :veryhappy:
 
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