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Pokemon- Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire Discussion

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Here's the original (better quality) version:


also I'm going with the theory that Gamefreak doesn't think much of its consumer base
If you look at how piss-easy X/Y was, I'd say GF has gone down the wrong road. They should introduce a difficulty setting right from the beginning rather than it being unlocked through finishing the game like in B2/W2.



Anyway, seems we can assume how Groudon and Kyogre go Primal just from watching that video.
We also see some of the Safari Zone, and I'd assume the Pikachu tail sticking out is either SF or a special event.
The updated water looks neat. Kinda makes sense since Hoenn is so focused on water. Diving looks cool as well.
 
Maybe makuhita isn't his main pokemon anymore.

If not idk why they would do that.

xcept reduced levels for gym leaders it looks like

thanks gamefreak

because main story pokemon is ever much of a challenge without special rulesets


Except we can see he only has 2 pokemon in the trailer, and the first has been KO'd already. :S So look like it is lowered. Which is ridiculous considering the E4 start at the low level of 46 as it is in RSE. So hopefully this just means it's lowered at the start of the game to accomodate a story overhaul adding more pre-E4 stuff to do. ~ Like Sevii islands were to FRLG, (which is also Gen 3, so I feel a sevii island revisit is reasonable.)
 
Remember when the elite 4 had like 5/6 high levelled Pokemon and in X/Y you bring your team of barely-trained pokemon and demolish them only using a potion

I thought the Groudon/Kyogre fight took part in the sea?
Also, this is the first game with version exclusive legendaries. Do we know if Kyogre will be available in OR, etc.?
 
I thought the Groudon/Kyogre fight took part in the sea?
They awaken in the Seafloor Cavern, then you head to Sootopolis to fight them in the Cave of Origin.

Also, this is the first game with version exclusive legendaries. Do we know if Kyogre will be available in OR, etc.?
It'd be a weird move to suddenly change something like this. HG/SS still had version exclusives, in the form of Kyogre in HG and Groudon in SS, as well as Latias in HG and Latios in SS.
The most that I could see happening is both Groudon and Kyogre appearing and duking it out in Sootopolis, then when Rayquaza calms them down the one exclusive to your game goes into the Cave of Origin while the other one goes dormant again.
 
They awaken in the Seafloor Cavern, then you head to Sootopolis to fight them in the Cave of Origin.


It'd be a weird move to suddenly change something like this. HG/SS still had version exclusives, in the form of Kyogre in HG and Groudon in SS, as well as Latias in HG and Latios in SS.
The most that I could see happening is both Groudon and Kyogre appearing and duking it out in Sootopolis, then when Rayquaza calms them down the one exclusive to your game goes into the Cave of Origin while the other one goes dormant again.
I didn't play R/S, but I played Emerald. Thanks for clarifying.
I think that may be the case, we don't see them 'devolving' (?) in the ocean where they're originally fought. G/S/C was merged in a way with the Suicine storyline so maybe.
Oh and to clarify, I meant G/S didn't have version exclusive legenderaries, nor did R/B/Y :p But I'd be interested to see if they include any non-gen3 legendaries, they added a lot in HGSS
 
I feel as if the Pikachu tail may be in the Safari Zone as part of the Pokeblock feeder but now you just play a pokeblock in the grass as opposed to the feeder.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Shortly before approaching the town of the first Gym Leader, the protagonist first encounters the Team Magma/Aqua in the Petalburg Woods, where he or she rescues a worker from Devon (a company that manufactures Pok?balls) and recovers Devon merchandise.[21] Upon arriving in Fallarbor Town (after defeating the third Gym Leader), the protagonist discovers that Professor Cozmo, an astronomer, has been kidnapped by Magma/Aqua. The protagonist traces them to a cave, Meteor Falls, but is too late to stop them from escaping to Mt. Chimney with a meteorite. The protagonist follows Magma/Aqua to Mt. Chimney where they are preparing to use the meteorite to alter the climate of the region. The protagonist defeats the Team's leader, however, and returns the meteorite to Professor Cozmo.[22] Shortly after the protagonist defeats the fifth Gym Leader (the protagonist's father, the first time such a character appears), Magma/Aqua again attempts to change the region's climate by stealing a Castform, a Pok?mon with the ability to change the weather, from the Weather Institute.[23] After the protagonist defeats the sixth Gym Leader, Magma/Aqua steals an orb with the ability to control a legendary Pok?mon (Groudon in Ruby, Kyogre in Sapphire). Magma/Aqua then steals a submarine from Captain Stern in Slateport City; the protagonist, however, infiltrates the team's hideout, but fails to prevent the submarine from being used. Magma/Aqua, then travel with the orb to the Seafloor Cavern, where Groudon or Kyogre resides; the team then uses the orb to awaken the legendary Pok?mon, but they have chosen the wrong one and have instead enraged the Pok?mon instead of putting it under their thrall. Once awakened, the Pok?mon travels to the Cave of Origin and causes a region-wide drought (Ruby) or severe rainstorms (Sapphire). When the protagonist defeats (or captures) the Pok?mon, the region's weather returns to normal.[24]


I read the first sentence and thought, eh, better not.
Nice try though :-]
 
I didn't play R/S, but I played Emerald. Thanks for clarifying.
I think that may be the case, we don't see them 'devolving' (?) in the ocean where they're originally fought. G/S/C was merged in a way with the Suicine storyline so maybe.
They were never fought in the ocean, you fought them in the Cave of Origin. In Emerald it was changed to the Marine Cave and Terra Cave, extra areas that eventually led to Groudon/Kyogre in their dormant states, with the room being exactly like the Seafloor Cavern in their respective versions.

All that happens in the ocean is that Groudon/Kyogre pops out of the Seafloor Cavern where you just fought the Team Magma or Aqua Leader, activate their ability, then make their way to Sootopolis. In R/S there was no clash like in Emerald, so they just made their way straight into the Cave of Origin where you could fight them.

Note that in the trailer, the only person shown present is the PC. I think that it's safe to assume that the events are pretty much the same until you get to the Cave of Origin, where they suddenly manage to go Primal.


Anyway, RIP TRAINER CUSTOMIZATION
 
Confirmed not to be in it?
I think it'd be safe to assume at this point. To reiterate what I've said before in the thread, the Secret Base characters are all random trainer models, yet they are also trainers you've met. That would mean we're going back to the way it was before, where you pick your trainer class and that'll be how you show up in other peoples' games.
Apart from that, Super Contests seem to be the only way to get a new costume, and even then it's exclusive to that. We're only about two months away from release, so we would've seen something regarding customization by now, since it wouldn't be a big reveal anymore.

And if you want to get really sad about it? Take a look at the updated Hoenn map. You see Pokemon Centers and Pokemon Marts. There are no clothing stores at all.

R I P
 
I think it'd be safe to assume at this point. To reiterate what I've said before in the thread, the Secret Base characters are all random trainer models, yet they are also trainers you've met. That would mean we're going back to the way it was before, where you pick your trainer class and that'll be how you show up in other peoples' games.
Apart from that, Super Contests seem to be the only way to get a new costume, and even then it's exclusive to that. We're only about two months away from release, so we would've seen something regarding customization by now, since it wouldn't be a big reveal anymore.

And if you want to get really sad about it? Take a look at the updated Hoenn map. You see Pokemon Centers and Pokemon Marts. There are no clothing stores at all.

R I P

But the pokemon marts were inside the pokemon center in kalos an unova, did they change it again?
 
But the pokemon marts were inside the pokemon center in kalos an unova, did they change it again?
Yes, because PokeMarts were outside Pokemon Centers in G3. I imagine they'll do the Center/Mart split with the G4 remakes as well, as they didn't go into the same building until B/W.
 
I still think that there'll be trainer customization. During the battle preview, you can see the other trainer customized. I don't think that they'll just show default clothes for everyone, and it would be very noticeable on X and Y.
 
I still think that there'll be trainer customization. During the battle preview, you can see the other trainer customized. I don't think that they'll just show default clothes for everyone, and it would be very noticeable on X and Y.
Battle preview? Could you specify which video you mean and around which time I should look?

As for it being weird in X/Y, I assume that you mean the PSS and related icons, since I don't believe that online battles have the other person's character showing up. Even then, it's not a problem, since even in X/Y you can choose for your icon to be any trainer class.
 
After the disappointing male trainer customization in x/y, I don't really care if they bring it back of not

But it would be kinda dumb for them not to.
 
Battle preview? Could you specify which video you mean and around which time I should look?

As for it being weird in X/Y, I assume that you mean the PSS and related icons, since I don't believe that online battles have the other person's character showing up. Even then, it's not a problem, since even in X/Y you can choose for your icon to be any trainer class.

It isn't in any video, I wqas just talking about the battle preview in X and Y. I guess you could say the PSS icons are changeable, but I was trying to talk about the camera looking at the opponent before the battle starts. Just seeing a lot of default outfits would just be pretty strange.
 
It isn't in any video, I wqas just talking about the battle preview in X and Y. I guess you could say the PSS icons are changeable, but I was trying to talk about the camera looking at the opponent before the battle starts. Just seeing a lot of default outfits would just be pretty strange.
But what if it'd just show you an Ace Trainer? Would it still be weird?
That's how it in G4 and G5. I don't remember if that's how it worked in G3, but I wouldn't be surprised if they kept customization exclusive to X/Y (for now).
 
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