ok so my parents don't want to give me an iphone 5s like I asked for. my b-day is coming up and I am hoping I find one in my presents but they seem to want to give some crappy slide phone from Pantech from like 10 years ago...I am responsible and everything and they just don't accept it! we are not poor; we have the largest house in our town and they have real good jobs. also, I said I would either pay for half of it or pay the monthly fee cost because of my job and all...I just don't know what to do. if they give me the crappy phone, I'm sure to get made fun of and bullied when I am a freshman next year...please HELP!
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Dude. Seriously. Calm your ****. Priorities. Hipsters use ****ty a** old phones ALL THE TIME and think they are the coolest people in the world. My boyfriend is 25, has a ****ing FLIP PHONE. Paid $0 for it, pays $40/month for it. The only reason he wanted a flip phone was so that he could hang up on someone with tenacity. Like SLAM the phone shut. You can't do that with smart phones. You just touch the screen to hang up. Its not the same when you're angry at someone and want to hang up on them. Trust me, ADULTS, like, UNIVERSITY STUDENTS, (Or College, whatever) Freshman first years, DON'T GIVE A ****. Its NOT LIKE HIGH SCHOOL. Its not a popularity contest anymore. There are TOO MANY people to keep track. Its a HUGE WORLD out there.... HUGE campus. There are no "cool kids" or "bullies" or any of that shi*t. Theres just people.... characterized by their major..... you might have the same classes with them, you might not..... you might have a semester wityh them then NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN..... they may drop out after Freshman Year.... they may go on exchange..... NO ONE GIVES A **** ABOUT YOUR PHONE. They only give a **** about getting a C. And about paying rent (if they pay rent). Not pissing off their room mate. Not getting an STD. Finding that hot girl/hot guy that was in the library at 3:45pm last Tuesday. How the **** DO I CITE THIS ARTICLE?!?! OMFG ITS DUE IN 3 HOURS I'M FUUUUUUUCKED!!!!! How to figure out how to do laundry because Mom always used to do it for you..... Making something else OTHER than Mac & Cheese because that's ALL you know how to cook.... NO ONE CARES.
Well, I'm not sure if this will work for you, I always had a crappy phone but I grew up in a time when cell phones were just starting to become an everyday, every person, thing. Perhaps explain the benefits to having a smart phone:
*First and foremost, you're not asking for the latest and greatest of smart phones, you're asking for the slightly older, yet still competitive model. This phone won't cost a fortune and you can still use it for several years without it feeling dated.
*Secondly, a smart phone acts as a GPS device and walking encyclopedia (thanks internet!). You said you have a job, soon you'll be driving if you aren't already (freshman at college or freshman at high school?). In any case, being able to use the internet on the fly not only to help yourself, but also other people (I can't tell you how many times I was asked directions at work. If I didn't know where a location was, I could only tell the person "sorry I can't help you", a smart phone with internet eliminates that)
*Thirdly, if you're willing to pay for it, you're obviously mature enough to own a phone of your choice. Maybe go over what they themselves could be saving by allowing you to pay for half or the monthly fee on your phone. If they get into the savings argument, I never saved a dime of the money I earned in high school - I blew it all on manga and pocky. I worked through college and supported myself more than fine.
Perhaps even just ask them why they're opposed to you having that phone. It would be easiest to address their concerns if we knew the root of them.
Also, I totally read your post as though you were getting a Galaxy S5. I admit I know little about iphones, so I'm not sure if my first point is true. Is there a newer iphone than the iphone 5s?
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I've gone a long time without having a phone I really like. Any person who actually makes fun of you over a phone probably isn't worth being your friend, or if it's just a playful jest, play right back (yeah, I'm on my parent's plan to save some money, and they still won't let me have xxxxx! It's so lame!) Anyway, if you don't get the phone you want, don't fret. One day you'll be able to buy whatever phone, or whatever anything, you want. Try to keep your priorities straight and learn what you really want (do you save ahead to rent your own apartment or do you buy that brand spanking gizmo?).
*First and foremost, you're not asking for the latest and greatest of smart phones, you're asking for the slightly older, yet still competitive model. This phone won't cost a fortune and you can still use it for several years without it feeling dated.
*Secondly, a smart phone acts as a GPS device and walking encyclopedia (thanks internet!). You said you have a job, soon you'll be driving if you aren't already (freshman at college or freshman at high school?). In any case, being able to use the internet on the fly not only to help yourself, but also other people (I can't tell you how many times I was asked directions at work. If I didn't know where a location was, I could only tell the person "sorry I can't help you", a smart phone with internet eliminates that)
*Thirdly, if you're willing to pay for it, you're obviously mature enough to own a phone of your choice. Maybe go over what they themselves could be saving by allowing you to pay for half or the monthly fee on your phone. If they get into the savings argument, I never saved a dime of the money I earned in high school - I blew it all on manga and pocky. I worked through college and supported myself more than fine.
Perhaps even just ask them why they're opposed to you having that phone. It would be easiest to address their concerns if we knew the root of them.
Also, I totally read your post as though you were getting a Galaxy S5. I admit I know little about iphones, so I'm not sure if my first point is true. Is there a newer iphone than the iphone 5s?
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I've gone a long time without having a phone I really like. Any person who actually makes fun of you over a phone probably isn't worth being your friend, or if it's just a playful jest, play right back (yeah, I'm on my parent's plan to save some money, and they still won't let me have xxxxx! It's so lame!) Anyway, if you don't get the phone you want, don't fret. One day you'll be able to buy whatever phone, or whatever anything, you want. Try to keep your priorities straight and learn what you really want (do you save ahead to rent your own apartment or do you buy that brand spanking gizmo?).
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It's clear that this person is acting like a really self entitled brat who thinks they deserve a new phone. Why are you encouraging this and trying to help him be more spoiled? Learn how to get along with whatever you have instead of whining when you don't get your toy.
Your parents don't owe you a thing. If you hate the phone they give you (which they don't have to give you one at all, just because it's your birthday, because that ain't no national holiday), buy your own phone, not just the monthly payments. Kids are bullied for far worse things and physically beaten on a daily basis for the way they look or the way they act, but you're afraid someone might be mean to you because you don't have the latest iPhone? Since when did kids today get to be so entitled? Find some more worthwhile priorities maybe, like going outside, or volunteering in your community or not hanging around people who are superficial and only like you because of the phone you have, I dunno.
I say this not knowing if this person is a college student or a high school student. Either way, they said they'd be willing to pay for at least half if not the monthly payment for the phone with their own job. I'm just here to help them up sell what they want to their parents in hopes to meet in the middle and compromise. I don't think being willing to make a compromise is whining or self entitled at all. OPs parents might not even take the compromise, and that's totally up to them.
Do you really think an 18 year old would be asking their parents for a phone as a present and also be worried about being bullied by 18+ year olds for not having a decent phone? They act as if they have every right to the phone and seeing as how they mention they "have like the biggest house in town" shows that they don't seem to be very mature. They also say that 10 year old phones are crappy which tells me that they just want something fancy that has a bunch of colorful buttons. It just ticks me off when people see this and try helping them when it's clearly they're being a little brat who probably don't deserve to begin with.
Sorry, I haven't met you and I'm not trying to seem like a butt here, but any quick google search of the best phones of 2005 could tell you that 10 year old cell phones are totally dated. Technology is advancing at an alarming rate, even a well built PC starts getting dated around ~5 years. Consoles only have longer lifespans because they come out every decade or so, and even that gap is closing with handhelds. A 10 year old cell phone is a piece of junk, speaking as a person who has always had 10+ year old phone and just dealt with it. If OP is in college, a phone like that can actually be a hindrance. Sure, I had other methods of meeting up with my friends, googling locations, etc, but when I got lost, I got REALLY lost. Not being able to look up where I was caused a lot of stress, and caused a lot of me not socializing. That may be fine with some people (it sort of was with me, though I sort of regret not building stronger relationships with my friends now that we've grown up and so far apart), but other people long for connection and social acceptance, which isn't a bad thing. If anything, having those kind of connections in college are more likely to get you a job than just technical knowledge. It really depends on what OP wants to do with their life, and if OP can up sell and get what he wants effectively, I don't see anything wrong with him doing that. As long as he keeps in mind that he might not always get his way, because the people he's selling to have wills of their own. (and I think he knows this, hence coming to us to ask)
I guess I'm just playing devil's advocate here. As I said previously, I think a spoiled person isn't willing to make common ground. I think a smart salesperson is trying to find a compromise, and that's what I'm trying to encourage.
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Either way they have a job, so:
I mean, if he's gonna throw a tantrum about not getting his own way or they aren't gonna budge on the decision, why not just tell them not to bother and buy the phone he wants? I'm pretty sure that's the entire point of having a job, so you can buy the things you want.
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In all honesty it sounds like you are really spoiled. Pay for the whole entire bill yourself if it matters that much. I have never heard of someone getting bullied for what phone they have, so I doubt you will have any troubles there. If anything someone might bully you for being such a selfish brat who cares too much about what phone they have.
I want to reiterate that his parents might refuse his offer. I'm just giving him the arsenal I would've used against my own parents if they refused me a phone I desperately wanted. That being said, I didn't desperately want anything aside from good grades, and I will freely admit that I used these sort of tactics to achieve that goal when I felt I was getting the short end of the stick from my teachers, and it worked! I found the source of their concerns (the reason they gave me the lesser grade) and gave my reasoning why it should be raised (either I put in enough effort for it to be raised, or my points made sense even if they didn't agree, etc.) I think a sort of progressive compromising/debating is a good trait and not one to be dismissed.
Depending on your age, you don't exactly NEED a phone. If you're in middle school/grade school, you'll most likely just end up using it for things like instagram/snapchat/etc, which is what myself and pretty much everybody I know ended up doing. Unless you participate in a lot of clubs and go out a lot, it's not necessary. I suggest you just wait, I dealt with just having an ipod until like seventh grade and I lived perfectly well before I even got a phone. I don't mean to be rude, but even if your family is wealthy, it doesn't mean that your parents have to spoil you and your siblings with things such as phones. They don't owe you a phone, they'll give it to you when they think you're ready. Forcing them into buying you one will simply irritate and pressure them. As I mentioned, they're not necessary unless you're an actual adult imo. I'm guessing you're between grade school and middle school, so calm down on trying to get a phone ._. At least ask them if they have an old flip phone or something that you can use if you want one that badly. If everyone around you already has phones, who cares? Look for something else to do. Not all of us got "rich" parents like you do and didn't get phones until highschool. Google things 90s kids did and get ideas off of that until your parents decide you should get a phone
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brat. just take the damn phone and dont complain.
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i actually agree, people posting about how they were happy with what they got: nobody cares. you're willing to pay part of the phone and you aren't being whiny. like someone else said, it's good that you're compromising. you are not self-entitled at all for wanting a good, new and working phone.
everyone's situation is different. honestly if my parents gave me a super old phone i wouldn't take it. i have had iphones for years and they are way better than the crappy phones i had in third and sixth grade. dont worry about being bullied though, usually that doesnt happen just because of a phone.
okay so people are saying kids are being bullied for more "serious" reasons. but you know what? people get bullied for different things and just because you or someone else has suffered "more" does not mean OP has to suffer for something that's maybe not as bad. people have different situations. maybe there's nothing else to be bullied for so the phone is the target (again i wouldnt worry about that too much). stop acting like those people who are like "in my day i had to work a paper route to make $5, so you should have to too!"
if your parents can afford it then there's literally no reason not to? unless you've been disrespectful to them. just kindly refuse the old phone and take nothing on your birthday, then use that to your advantage and manipulate them. it's not that hard, it looks like you'd be able to do that with your parents.
this isnt even spoiled lol? maybe to you it might seem that way but people who were maybe raised in families with more money than usual have lived their lives differently than you have. my parents are doctors so we have a bit of extra money so i get more stuff than other people do. it's how it ****ing works, more money = (ability to securely get) more items.
everyone's situation is different. honestly if my parents gave me a super old phone i wouldn't take it. i have had iphones for years and they are way better than the crappy phones i had in third and sixth grade. dont worry about being bullied though, usually that doesnt happen just because of a phone.
okay so people are saying kids are being bullied for more "serious" reasons. but you know what? people get bullied for different things and just because you or someone else has suffered "more" does not mean OP has to suffer for something that's maybe not as bad. people have different situations. maybe there's nothing else to be bullied for so the phone is the target (again i wouldnt worry about that too much). stop acting like those people who are like "in my day i had to work a paper route to make $5, so you should have to too!"
if your parents can afford it then there's literally no reason not to? unless you've been disrespectful to them. just kindly refuse the old phone and take nothing on your birthday, then use that to your advantage and manipulate them. it's not that hard, it looks like you'd be able to do that with your parents.
this isnt even spoiled lol? maybe to you it might seem that way but people who were maybe raised in families with more money than usual have lived their lives differently than you have. my parents are doctors so we have a bit of extra money so i get more stuff than other people do. it's how it ****ing works, more money = (ability to securely get) more items.
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It's a good trait to have but still, the way he's presented this says nothing but "I'm whiny and spoiled" which isn't a good trait.
If he would have said it more like "blah blah blah how could I persuade my parents to have x thing" I'm sure the responses would have been different, but as it stands it reads more like "my parents have loads of money so I deserve x thing, I don't want this crappy thing, they just hate me, I wish I was never born! *slams bedroom door*"
Learning how to properly word what you want to say so that you don't come across like an arse is also a good trait to have.
...I don't even know how to respond to that.
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"Manipulate your parents."
Yeah because **** those people that take care of you, they surely have lots of money to spend on the latest gadget just so you don't get made fun of at school. Oh my god this site is so full of stupid sometimes. You don't NEED an iPhone, any normal phone would work for calls or texts, you don't NEED the latest, you won't DIE without one. How did all of us old farts survive back in the day, gosh. OP should pay for the entire phone if they want a SPECIFIC one that parents won't pay for. Parents owe you nothing.
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