oath2order
#Porygon2024
Ugh, I could never take those classes. They'd be full of people who want a quick throwaway class.
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I would be quite interested in the study of pokemon evolution. The final exam where you have to get everything right would be horrible.
Instructor: So everyone how do you evolve a Tepig?
Students: Get it to the required level
Instructor: How do you evolve a Feebas?
Students: Make it freaking beatuiful
Instructor: How do you evolve a Eevee into a Sylveon?
Students: I quit
Instructor: So everyone how do you evolve a Tepig?
Students: Get it to the required level
Instructor: How do you evolve a Feebas?
Students: Make it freaking beatuiful
Instructor: How do you evolve a Eevee into a Sylveon?
Students: I quit
Treasu(red)
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@ Oath: You know? I think I will post my team. And some tips.
How to IV & EV train the easy way.
1) Pick the pokemon you wait to train.
2) Go on Smogon and Serebii's websites and see what are 'recommended' movesets, but ultimately do your own thing. Write that stuff down that you want. Lookup moves and how to get them-- breeding, tutoring, TM, or lvling up.
3) Breed that pokemon with a ditto in your game.
4) Hatch eggs, and take the newborn to the blue haired guy in the subway. He will rate their IV's.
5) IV's are like this. A new pokemon will get 2 stats from father (i.e. HP and ATK) 2 stats from Mom (i.e. Def. and Sp ATK) and 2 of their own (generated randomly i.e. Sp Def and Speed). The blue haired guy will tell you how good your pokemon's IV's are, and which one out of them all is best. I take the two best offspring, and breed them together, and do this for a few egg groups, until I have high IV parents producing high IV offspring.
PROTIP: Keeping a pokemon with the ability flame body in your party makes eggs hatch faster! (Volcrona!)
6) Get a high IV offspring that has a beneficial nature. If your pokemon is going to use special moves, don't choose a baby poke that has an Adamant (+Atk, -Sp Atk) nature! It will never use those Atk points!
7) Go back to Smogon and Serebii, look at recommended EV training. Decide what you want.
Ultimately do your own thing. They are YOUR pokemon not Serebii/Smogon clones.
8) If you don't already have all of the EV training Bracers which can be purchased from the Battle Subway, save up BP and get them. I've found playing GTS Free Mode online is the fastest way to get BP. You get 1 even if you lose. You can start by getting the bracers you need for that pokemon you've just bred first.
9) Look up the best training spots for EV types online.
NOTE: These spots will differ between B/W and B2/W2.
10) Get out a piece of paper, or a notebook.
11) Go to that EV training spot and fight the matching pokemon, keep tally marks of how many you've killed.
A pokemon that gives 1 EV point will now give 5 EV points with a bracer, and a pokemon that gives 2 EV points will give 6 EV points with a bracer. The most you'll now have to KO will be 51 pokemon.
12) Each pokemon can only get 255 points in a single category. But has 510 EV's to get total. That usually breaks down to 252, 252, and 4. (4 EV points = 1 Stat Point Increase upon Leveling).
13) Pat your macho back a few times. You just EV trained a pokemon to have no weaknesses or super fighting strength.
How to IV & EV train the easy way.
1) Pick the pokemon you wait to train.
2) Go on Smogon and Serebii's websites and see what are 'recommended' movesets, but ultimately do your own thing. Write that stuff down that you want. Lookup moves and how to get them-- breeding, tutoring, TM, or lvling up.
3) Breed that pokemon with a ditto in your game.
4) Hatch eggs, and take the newborn to the blue haired guy in the subway. He will rate their IV's.
5) IV's are like this. A new pokemon will get 2 stats from father (i.e. HP and ATK) 2 stats from Mom (i.e. Def. and Sp ATK) and 2 of their own (generated randomly i.e. Sp Def and Speed). The blue haired guy will tell you how good your pokemon's IV's are, and which one out of them all is best. I take the two best offspring, and breed them together, and do this for a few egg groups, until I have high IV parents producing high IV offspring.
PROTIP: Keeping a pokemon with the ability flame body in your party makes eggs hatch faster! (Volcrona!)
6) Get a high IV offspring that has a beneficial nature. If your pokemon is going to use special moves, don't choose a baby poke that has an Adamant (+Atk, -Sp Atk) nature! It will never use those Atk points!
Ultimately do your own thing. They are YOUR pokemon not Serebii/Smogon clones.
8) If you don't already have all of the EV training Bracers which can be purchased from the Battle Subway, save up BP and get them. I've found playing GTS Free Mode online is the fastest way to get BP. You get 1 even if you lose. You can start by getting the bracers you need for that pokemon you've just bred first.
9) Look up the best training spots for EV types online.
NOTE: These spots will differ between B/W and B2/W2.
10) Get out a piece of paper, or a notebook.
11) Go to that EV training spot and fight the matching pokemon, keep tally marks of how many you've killed.
A pokemon that gives 1 EV point will now give 5 EV points with a bracer, and a pokemon that gives 2 EV points will give 6 EV points with a bracer. The most you'll now have to KO will be 51 pokemon.
12) Each pokemon can only get 255 points in a single category. But has 510 EV's to get total. That usually breaks down to 252, 252, and 4. (4 EV points = 1 Stat Point Increase upon Leveling).
13) Pat your macho back a few times. You just EV trained a pokemon to have no weaknesses or super fighting strength.
Treasu(red)
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~My beautiful team~
I love cute, and cool pokemon.
And interestingly enough, my team is based around three members who never leave. Depending on what I'm doing I fill the remaining 3 slots as needed. Really this is more a list of my Pokemon that I've poured my heart into making over the last few years.
The Threatening Trio:
Nickname (America)
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -Sp Atk)
Ability: Sheer Force
Item: Choice Band
Ev Training: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 Def
Moveset: Brave Bird (flying), U-Turn (bug), Superpower (fighting), and Rockslide (rock)
I cannot begin to describe what a perfect lead this poke is. It's faster than almost anything else in the game after EV training, and with Choice Band it can either immediately sweep a lead pokemon with a weakness using Brave Bird or Superpower, or give a U-Turn attack before returning to the party with no damage. Rockslide destroys flying pokemon who resist it, and also counters ice pokemon which Braviary is weak to. This is my all time favorite Atk Sweeper.
Nickname (Milotic)
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
Ability: Marvel Scale
Item: Splash Plate
Ev Training: HP 75, Def 108, Sp Atk 140, Sp Def 90, Speed 97
Moveset: Surf (water), Ice Beam (ice), Recover (Normal), Hypnosis (Psychic)
This is without a question my favorite pokemon. I bred her from the first Milotic I got and fell in love with back in Sapphire, so in my mind she's the daughter of my previous legend. Two things I wanted from her, well-roundedness (hence the odd EV training) and a rare move that can only be found when you breed a female feebas/milotic with a male poliwrath. Hypnosis. Nobody expects a Milotic to know hypnosis and they pay the price for it dearly. With splash plate giving an extra 20% boost to surf's power it becomes a base 108 power move with 100% accuracy. Hypnosis + Ice beam counters any dragon Pokemon efficiently. Recover restores 1/2 her HP when needed. Marvel Scale raises the Defense stat by 50% if there's a status ailment, so if she's against a Scald/Thunder Wave/Confuse Way/Will-o-wisp/Toxic pokemon, she just benefits all the more. She is a Tank AND a Special Sweeper. She's already hard to kill between recover and hypnosis, but if someone gets a reflect up KOing her is impossible. Which brings me to the 3rd member of the trio.
Nickname (Psyche)
Nature: Modest (+Sp Atk, -Atk)
Ability: Levitate
Item: Icicle plate or Soul Dew
EV Training: HP 85, Def 85, Sp Atk 150, Sp Def 85 and Speed 105
Moveset: Thunder, Psychic, Ice Beam, Reflect
Latias is very helpful, if I'm going agianst a team w/ no dragon pokemon. She has a terrible dragon weakness but if you have reflect up uuuuuuugh the beauty. Reflect benefits Milotic AND Braviary, she has immunity to earthquake moves, and takes down any fighting pokemon like a pro which there are a lot of in the metagame. I gave her a well rounded EV spread to help w/ longevity. In case Milotic does not survive a dragon type or water type--- latias is there to switch into and finish the job. Thunder takes care of the water, and ice beam will finish off the dragon if she can move first. I don't care for all the dragon types I see in the metagame which leads me to my next pokemon.
Nickname (Kuroko)
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -Sp Atk)
Ability: Pickpocket (YES, the DREAM WORLD WEAVILE
)Item: Focus Band
Ev Training: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moveset: Swagger (normal), Foul Play (dark), Ice Shard (ice), Pursuit (dark)
Weavile is still in BETA mode. I @#$%ing hate Garchomp. If I see a Garchomp, Weavile goes on my team. She is the perfect counter. Focus Band, her Speed, and her 1st priority moves are really what makes her. Normally people give her an ice punch to counter heavy atk dragons, but I like my own little concoction of swagger and foul play. Swagger raises Atk while confusing the opponent. Immediately after using Swagger use Ice Shard because it is a first priority move. It will take a dragons health down a bunch even though it's only 40 BP. .. Next, IF they ignore confusions and get a hit in, it doesn't matter... Focus Band leaves her at 1HP. Next you use Foul Play. This move's power depends on the Atk status of the opponent, the higher the attack, the more powerful the Foul Play. Foul play takes swagger's status boosting effects into consideration, and almost always hits at 150 power that way. Again, you've just hit at 150 power a weakened pokemon who doesn't resist dark, and use Ice Shard before they can remove your remaining 1 HP. Silly Rabbit, tricks are for Weavile. I still haven't fully tested her, but I'm excited to.
Now this pokemon has NO durability. So what if I need a Special Wall? This leads us to our next lovely.
Nickname (Blissey)
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
Ability: Natural Cure (all status problems heal when it switches out)
Item: Leftovers
EV Training: 252 HP, 200 Def, 50 Sp Def
Moveset: Flamethrower, Toxic, Softboiled, Heal Bell
This Blissey makes me laugh. I've just recently (thanks to you TBT discovered the Eviolite Chansey is likely more powerful, but I think Blissey's cuter. So I'm keeping her.) She's supposed to be a nurse but she breathes fire and poisons Pokemon. She's an Angel of Death. With this moveset she can support herself, her team members who have ailments, and with a reflect in place (see Latias) last a long time. Between Toxic and Softboiled she outlasts most pokemon in a "I'll wait until you die ;D" battle. I sometimes substitute her and Latias to make a Braviary, Milotic, Blissey mix.
Lastly
Nature: Lax
Ability: Serene Grace
Item: Iron Plate
Ev Training: (I don't remember and don't have it written down!!! But I know I did Atk...)
Moveset: Iron Head, Wish, Psychic, Cosmic Power
OKAY. So it's a crying shame I cannot use this pokemon in the metagame. This pokemon is the Atk counterpart to my Milotic. Just as epic only different specs. The key to this pokemon is Serene Grace, which doubles the chances of effects appearing. Iron Head is the mother of annoying moves. It has no immunities and a 30% flinch chance, meaning with serene grace there's a %60 chance of flinching, and everything that doesn't have Inner Focus gets flinched all the time. With Cosmic Power Jirachi's Def and Sp Def are boosted even higher, and wish heals any damage. Psychic is for type coverage. I once fought my friends Magmortar with my Jirachi and I flinched it to death. He was rather mad.
I've been making this for so long so the other two mentionables on my team are Lopunny and Keldeo. Lopunny knows Sweet Kiss to confuse the target, then Ice Punch, Thunder Punch and Jump Kick. It's not a terribly good pokemon but I love it and often have it in the first slot of my party when playing around in the pokemon world. Keldeo just kicks butt.
I'd love to see input on ways to improve my pokes, and what other peoples teams look like.
Bye for now!!!!!!!!
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@ Oath: You know? I think I will post my team. And some tips.
How to IV & EV train the easy way.
1) Pick the pokemon you wait to train.
2) Go on Smogon and Serebii's websites and see what are 'recommended' movesets, but ultimately do your own thing. Write that stuff down that you want. Lookup moves and how to get them-- breeding, tutoring, TM, or lvling up.
3) Breed that pokemon with a ditto in your game.
4) Hatch eggs, and take the newborn to the blue haired guy in the subway. He will rate their IV's.
5) IV's are like this. A new pokemon will get 2 stats from father (i.e. HP and ATK) 2 stats from Mom (i.e. Def. and Sp ATK) and 2 of their own (generated randomly i.e. Sp Def and Speed). The blue haired guy will tell you how good your pokemon's IV's are, and which one out of them all is best. I take the two best offspring, and breed them together, and do this for a few egg groups, until I have high IV parents producing high IV offspring.
PROTIP: Keeping a pokemon with the ability flame body in your party makes eggs hatch faster! (Volcrona!)
6) Get a high IV offspring that has a beneficial nature. If your pokemon is going to use special moves, don't choose a baby poke that has an Adamant (+Atk, -Sp Atk) nature! It will never use those Atk points!
7) Go back to Smogon and Serebii, look at recommended EV training. Decide what you want.
Ultimately do your own thing. They are YOUR pokemon not Serebii/Smogon clones.
8) If you don't already have all of the EV training Bracers which can be purchased from the Battle Subway, save up BP and get them. I've found playing GTS Free Mode online is the fastest way to get BP. You get 1 even if you lose. You can start by getting the bracers you need for that pokemon you've just bred first.
9) Look up the best training spots for EV types online.
NOTE: These spots will differ between B/W and B2/W2.
10) Get out a piece of paper, or a notebook.
11) Go to that EV training spot and fight the matching pokemon, keep tally marks of how many you've killed.
A pokemon that gives 1 EV point will now give 5 EV points with a bracer, and a pokemon that gives 2 EV points will give 6 EV points with a bracer. The most you'll now have to KO will be 51 pokemon.
12) Each pokemon can only get 255 points in a single category. But has 510 EV's to get total. That usually breaks down to 252, 252, and 4. (4 EV points = 1 Stat Point Increase upon Leveling).
13) Pat your macho back a few times. You just EV trained a pokemon to have no weaknesses or super fighting strength.
Still too lazy too breed so many pokemon! ;P Well I guess in X I'll try.
oath2order
#Porygon2024
EVs I can do. IVs...Hahaha no I'm not bothering.
Officer Berri
Cousin Redd's Nightmare
I knew it was fake and I clicked the link anyways because I LOVE THAT VIDEO SO MUCH.
*dances~*
*dances~*
VillageDweller
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That awkward moment when it was blocked in my country and so it failed. o_o
Anyway I hope that news is good that's coming out about X and Y soon.
Anyway I hope that news is good that's coming out about X and Y soon.
Treasu(red)
Senior Member
OK I've posted my team now. Go back a few posts.
New pokemon reveal most likely. Maybe a reveal on a bit of story possibly?
I actually was a huge breeder in Platinum. Surprised I never came across IVs in all my research back then.
ADDITION: Wait I was just thinking when I saw Treasu(red) team, does every pokemon have the potenial to be really good? Like suppose I wanted a Gardevoir, Armaldo, Leavanny team, could I make it pretty good through EVs, IVs, and such?
ADDITION: Wait I was just thinking when I saw Treasu(red) team, does every pokemon have the potenial to be really good? Like suppose I wanted a Gardevoir, Armaldo, Leavanny team, could I make it pretty good through EVs, IVs, and such?
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Treasu(red)
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Not every pokemon. Example I'd love to make a Furrett, but... it's stats are just so bad and it's movepool is barren...
EV's and IV's can make a good pokemon great, or a great pokemon invincible.
I've been reading the last 5 pages of the thread and I think I might get in to EV training! But, I have one question. How do you know how much EV's a Pokemon gives when defeated? Like if a defeat a Patrat what EV's will it give my Pokemon and how many?
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