Old Pokemon General(RIP)

[KarlaKGB]

I've been reading the last 5 pages of the thread and I think I might get in to EV training! But, I have one question. How do you know how much EV's a Pokemon gives when defeated? Like if a defeat a Patrat what EV's will it give my Pokemon and how many?

You should use the Serebii Pokedex, http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/
It would tell you that Patrat gives you 1 ATK EV.

Does anyone know a decent team builder I could use? I tried looking one up but I couldn't find a decent one.

What do you mean by team builder? You can use the Pokemon Online battle simulator to design a team as well as battle with it

 

[Solar]

You should use the Serebii Pokedex, http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/
It would tell you that Patrat gives you 1 ATK EV.


What do you mean by team builder? You can use the Pokemon Online battle simulator to design a team as well as battle with it

Thank you! Personally, EV training looks like a lot of fun and definitely will yield satisfactory results! Does anyone have tips (if there are any) for EV training?

 

[Treasu(red)]

Thank you! Personally, EV training looks like a lot of fun and definitely will yield satisfactory results! Does anyone have tips (if there are any) for EV training?

I left a whole page of tips on page 39 of this thread. ^^

Edit: I will add one thing. The Macho Brace is odd because it only gives 2 EV points, not 4 and follows different rules from the other bracers. I'd recommend reading about it, or simply not using it. Also to get the best results, keep the pokemon you're EV training in the 1st slot of your party, and switch out to KO. If you happen to encounter a pokemon who gives EV's you DON'T want.. Run away! Don't kill it or you'll get saddled with unwanted EV points.

 

[Solar]

I left a whole page of tips on page 39 of this thread. ^^

Edit: I will add one thing. The Macho Brace is odd because it only gives 2 EV points, not 4 and follows different rules from the other bracers. I'd recommend reading about it, or simply not using it. Also to get the best results, keep the pokemon you're EV training in the 1st slot of your party, and switch out to KO. If you happen to encounter a pokemon who gives EV's you DON'T want.. Run away! Don't kill it or you'll get saddled with unwanted EV points.

Thanks! Soon I'll be telling you about my team in as much detail as you did! You're awesome Treasu(red)! You're also my Pokemon role model. You know so much!

 

[Officer Berri]

TELL US WHAT TYPE SYLVEON IS. D:

Also pictures of our player characters please.

 

[Treasu(red)]

Thanks! Soon I'll be telling you about my team in as much detail as you did! You're awesome Treasu(red)! You're also my Pokemon role model. You know so much!

That makes me so happy to hear!
That makes taking the time to make those posts worth while! Ask me questions anytime and I'll send you a reply right away!

 

[Solar]

That makes me so happy to hear!
That makes taking the time to make those posts worth while! Ask me questions anytime and I'll send you a reply right away!

You'll be like my mentor Since I'll be creating a whole new team. I should probably make sure I have a variety of types right? Also, is it good to have half defensive-oriented Pokemon and half-offensive oriented Pokemon? Lastly, what's your favorite generation of Pokemon p)

 

[Treasu(red)]

You'll be like my mentor Since I'll be creating a whole new team. I should probably make sure I have a variety of types right? Also, is it good to have half defensive-oriented Pokemon and half-offensive oriented Pokemon? Lastly, what's your favorite generation of Pokemon p)

I always give a new game a genuine run-through before I pick which Pokemon will be on my 'best' team. I keep the starter I choose and don't ev train at all. I like playing the game the classic way initially. Balance is always good when making a team, variety is good, but if you see a pokemon and you really like it? Get online and make sure it's base stats are good (Bulbapedia is the best for looking at stats and moves) and then make it your own. I only have two requirements for my pokemon, be cute/cool and for it to not be constantly disappointing me in battle. Who cares if you have two or three water types on your team? Make it a Rain Dance team (Kyogre or Politoad have this ability, and lots of water pokemon learn the move Rain Dance) throw in some electric pokemon who know Thunder (which has it's accuracy raised to 100% in rainy weather) and poof! A very good team with only two types of pokemon. Same thing goes for a Sunny Day team. Put lots of fire types who get the stat boost from the sunny weather, and grass type pokemon who can immediately use solar flare or any other light move on the team and poof! Another amazing team with only two types of pokemon.
Yes it is good to have at least ONE tank on your team, I've found. For when you need to pump some hyper-potions or awakenings.

I honestly can't say what my favorite game has been. I don't know if I have a favorite. I just love it immensely when a new Pokemon game comes out? lol

 

[KarlaKGB]

Macho brace doubles the EV gain of a pokemon if it is equipped. It's useful if you haven't managed to buy the bracer required for that stat. There's a very rare virus called PKRS which when caught, will also double your EV gain. It's incredibly incredibly rare to find, but I have a few incubating in my PC box that I can trade to you. Basically, PKRS lasts for a few days, and during that time, it can spread to other Pokemon in your party. While and after a Pokemon has had PKRS, they will gain EVs. You can tell when they have PKRS by it appearing as a status, and afterwards, a small sad face shows that the pokemon was once infected. If you keep a pokemon with PKRS in your PC box, PKRS will remain, which is how you keep it for later.

A pokemon will gain EVs if it gains EXP, so a Pokemon with exp share will also receive EVs. However, it's naturally more efficient for that Pokemon to appear in the battle, because then it can equip a bracer instead of exp share.

The standard template of a team will consist of a Lead, a Lead Support, three cores and the 'glue' that holds the team together. Leads often will set up weather or entry hazards. The core are designed to weaken and take out key threats, that will allow your sweeper to win the game. The three should work together and cover each other's weaknesses, providing safe switchins. Finally, the glue patches up any weaknesses remaining. It's quite common to run a revenge killer in this spot, who will normally be choice scarfed.


I'm now confused, are you building a competitive team or an ingame team? I always run through the game with a random non-ev trained team and then get down and dirty with a serious team.

 

[Solar]

Macho brace doubles the EV gain of a pokemon if it is equipped. It's useful if you haven't managed to buy the bracer required for that stat. There's a very rare virus called PKRS which when caught, will also double your EV gain. It's incredibly incredibly rare to find, but I have a few incubating in my PC box that I can trade to you. Basically, PKRS lasts for a few days, and during that time, it can spread to other Pokemon in your party. While and after a Pokemon has had PKRS, they will gain EVs. You can tell when they have PKRS by it appearing as a status, and afterwards, a small sad face shows that the pokemon was once infected. If you keep a pokemon with PKRS in your PC box, PKRS will remain, which is how you keep it for later.

A pokemon will gain EVs if it gains EXP, so a Pokemon with exp share will also receive EVs. However, it's naturally more efficient for that Pokemon to appear in the battle, because then it can equip a bracer instead of exp share.

The standard template of a team will consist of a Lead, a Lead Support, three cores and the 'glue' that holds the team together. Leads often will set up weather or entry hazards. The core are designed to weaken and take out key threats, that will allow your sweeper to win the game. The three should work together and cover each other's weaknesses, providing safe switchins. Finally, the glue patches up any weaknesses remaining. It's quite common to run a revenge killer in this spot, who will normally be choice scarfed.


I'm now confused, are you building a competitive team or an ingame team? I always run through the game with a random non-ev trained team and then get down and dirty with a serious team.

I'm going for a competitive. A well rounded team that can do about anything.

 

[KarlaKGB]

Here's the team I ran last year:

Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Magma Storm
- Sunny Day
- SolarBeam
- Roar
Heatran's signature move Magma storm is an absolute beast. In the sun, it KO's nearly anything that doesn't resist, AND traps them. He destroys Politoed rain teams. Magma storm, trap poli, sunny day, laugh as hydro pump does 25% then kill with solar beam. Against non-rain teams, he serves as a backup sun setup in case Ninetales dies. Struggled to think of a move for a fourth spot, so I went for roar.

Donphan @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 104 Atk
Impish Nature (+Def -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Shard
My rapid spinner and entry hazard Pokemon. Atk EV investment is to ensure a 2HKO of Salamence (otherwise I'd have to rely on lucky min-max damage rolls). With this investment, EQ will also OHKO Terrakion without rocks up. Again as a sun team, getting rid of rocks helps my Ninetales and Mence to stay alive.

Lilligant @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 64 HP / 252 SAtk / 192 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Sleep Powder
- Quiver Dance
- HP Ice
- Giga Drain
After two quiver dances, nothing much can stand up to her, even outside of the sun. Spd EVs are set up to outspeed scarfed Latios in the sun without any dances. With life orb, a dance, HP ice will OHKO a Multiscale Dragonite without rocks support. Yache berry Mence will also go down. Lilligant doesn't mess around.

Salamence @ Lum Berry
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Fire Fang
Dream world has brought this guy back to me. MoxieMence is terrifying. Jolly nature was to OHKO scarfed Genesect (now obsolete) Outrage doesn't go well with Moxie imo, and with DD, I can easily build up enough power. He resists a lot of types that will cause this team problems. The excellent coverage means I don't want to be locked into a movie either so I went with Lum berry.

Ninetales @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 144 SDef / 112 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Sunny Day
- Will-O-Wisp
- SolarBeam
- Flamethrower
Another Dream world wonder. She is the crutch of the team and must stay alive. The EV spread represents this. Against a sandstorm team, she can survive and burn TTar. Predict the switch to Politoeds and TTars, set up sunny day and then nuke them with a solar beam. Against teams with no weather, I'll fodder her off to cripple a threat.

Raikou @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Aura Sphere
- Volt Switch
- HP Ice
- Weather Ball
Theorycrafted a few pokemon in this slot and finally went with the rather unusual Raikou. This guy can function in any weather. Weather ball in the sun and rain hits at a whopping 150 power. OHKO's TTar with rocks. Genesect dies. Mamoswine dies. Everything dies to this. HP ice wrecks the Genies. Volt switch makes him an excellent scout.

 

[Juicebox]

I actually was a huge breeder in Platinum. Surprised I never came across IVs in all my research back then.


ADDITION: Wait I was just thinking when I saw Treasu(red) team, does every pokemon have the potenial to be really good? Like suppose I wanted a Gardevoir, Armaldo, Leavanny team, could I make it pretty good through EVs, IVs, and such?

As long as you're in the right tier, why now? Leavanny and Armaldo are both in NU and seem to do pretty well, so I'm sure you could work out a strategy with those two. Gardevoir I believe is in UU, but don't quote me on that.

You can be pretty versatile with your teams. All you have to do is know your tiers and stuff. Still can't really do random match up competitive, but most Pokemon fansistes have all the competitive tiers.

Or, you could be like me and just play against your friends who have no idea about any kind of training and whomp them.

 

[KarlaKGB]

Gardevoir is NU

 

[Jake]

OMG I want it on my team!!!!! I would never give it up, and I know it wouldn't let me down.

OMG me too! I hope it's not a version exclusive!!

So supposedly there's "big news" coming up for Pokemon X and Y on April 6th, this Saturday. I wonder what it will be about?

It's just a new reveal of a pokemon

 

[Sora]

TELL US WHAT TYPE SYLVEON IS. D:

Hahaha NO. They'll tell us when the Genesect movie is out in Japan.

 

[Sora]

Wait so are you saying those 3 are all pretty bad? I just looked it up and lol it says they all must suck if they are NU.

 

[Prof Gallows]

It'll be that reveal they teased the other day.

Don't expect too much, though.

 

[Juicebox]

Wait so are you saying those 3 are all pretty bad? I just looked it up and lol it says they all must suck if they are NU.

Not necessarily. They certainly aren't going to go into the uber tier, but with a good strategy, they could do pretty well in UU. All it takes is the right team mates, good training, and some luck. If done right, it would be like battling in UU on hard mode.

 

[Treasu(red)]

@KarlaKGB your team is a boss~ I wonder how you managed to get all the Dream World pokes. My best friend sent me the female sneasel I wanted b/c he plays the dreamworld every day. You've got a very well balanced team. I get the feeling it's like a hybrid sunny-day mixture.

@Benmjy As much as I know about pokemon, there will always be someone in the world who knows more. Take Karla for example!

 

[Sora]

Then I'll be the best low teir trainer ever! Actually I don't really want to bother anymore :/. I'm not a big fan of any of the higher teir pokemon so I don't think I'll be up to too much EV and IV stuff. I'm sticking to level 50 double battles forever lol.