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[dengit]

Idk so far school in England isn't that bad
Then again I haven't been in school since March but
American's seem to have it rough. I saw a tumblr post and 'our[England's] A is their[America's] C'
I mean I'm considered gifted but I've seen American's called stupid who're better than me
It confuses me especially the whole 'freshan, senior, sophmore' thing

Oh yeah I remember that post. It really surprised me; I guess I'm just so used to the bullcrap American grading system that seeing one weighed differently blew my mind. America's schools are currently half "mad-race-to-top-colleges" and half "given-up-on-life".

 

[JCnator]

Man, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that; that sounds like paradise.

But it might also be the material itself. I'm assuming in French Lit. you've had Voltaire/Camus/Rimbaud and a bunch of other stuff. Was it just not that enjoyable to read? And I can't imagine that Quebec has produced outstanding lit., but I could be wrong.

I've never heard on how exactly every curriculum in USA and the rest of Canada is arranged, but I've got no complaint on the basic classes I went through for the most part. Are most of the other countries worse than my cegep on that matter?

The books I've got to read should be at least good enough to keep your interest going on. Some of the books I've got the chance to read are (as written in French):

- Le Dernier Jour du Condamn? (by Victor Hugo)
- Les Fleurs du mal et le Spleen de Paris (by Charles Baudelaire)
- Paroles (by Jacques Pr?vert)
- L'orangeraie (by Larry Tremblay)


I don't believe those books were the root of my issues, because some of them are actually great. The thing is, I somehow always end up screwing any form of literary analysis if I do by myself. And then, I usually get between 40% and 60% as result. It could be the fact I wasn't being taught enough back in my secondary school to properly master French, which is actually my native language. Maybe it has to do with my uncanny ability to spot orthographic typos to the detriment of my reading ability? Or perhaps it was because I didn't read much of literature aside of those requested by schools.

 

[Elov]

I used to dread going to school.. I was really depressed, and my middle school caused me to go through a lot of mental issues.. But once I got to high school everything felt better, I'm still alone to some extent but I don't really mind it. Since the school is bigger, I'm normally not noticed, so it sort of feels okay. And I've managed to make a small handful of friends, so it's nice knowing I have a safe group to go to.

 

[Munyo]

I despise school because they train us like robots.
What's even worse is that my school has gates. To me, it represents a prison.
Did you know that schools were actually formed to teach their students similar to factory workers? Yes, a man from Europe (East or West, I forgot) brought it over to the United States. So the system is highly similar to factories: Work a certain amount of time, eat lunch, work again, go home.

It's even worse living in a city where there's such a diverse mix of cultures.
I strongly dislike the way teachers pull up colored students because they think they are causing trouble.
More than half of suspensions happen to be African Americans and people who come from Latin America.
The thing ALL OF SOCIETY DOESN'T DO (this includes police and school systems) is restorative justice. That is what I don't like school is because they just expect you to come to class and they stuff homework onto your schedule without a thought or care about your life outside of school.

We should have a voice into what classes we get into. It's our life, not theirs. They shouldn't tell us, "Oh, sorry, we don't have anymore room for AP suchandsuch." If they don't have room, then get the funding (if they can't, that's another problem; The government uses their funding on military rather than spending on education).

School just chains our expressive lives.
A week ago, a security guard lined up girls who were wearing sleeveless tops and short pants. I saw so many girls lined up. It was unbelievable. The dress code says that girls cannot wear these things (my only suspicion is because some males can't think because they're turned on; Again, a problem that exists elsewhere from school).

The thing I don't like about school is the UC (University of California) System (I think most institutions are similar) and the College Board. You must meet their standards. They want to tell you you're not good enough to enter their school. It makes you believe you're not good enough. So we care what they say about us, not what we say about ourselves. Sorry, I don't prefer standardized testing. I'm not good with bubbling in questions to show my intelligence.

I think the nature of school was formed by the society.
I just hate it.
But we have to accept it and play their game.

 

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[Aran]

We should have a voice into what classes we get into. It's our life, not theirs. They shouldn't tell us, "Oh, sorry, we don't have anymore room for AP suchandsuch." If they don't have room, then get the funding (if they can't, that's another problem; The government uses their funding on military rather than spending on education).

I found it interesting that you demonize the general nature of our schools and yet you yourself admit in the above paragraph that in the end, it isn't the school's fault per se - it's the simple inescapable fact that the US* just doesn't value education as much as we should.

I don't find it surprising that our school system is based on one meant for factory workers. Factory work is meant to streamline a process at minimal cost to maximize profit. There's a reason why the assembly line had such a powerful impact in its time. Again, you mentioned that schools are not receiving the funding that they need to teach the next generation of young adults. With limited funding, can you really afford this "better education" for everyone? No. Standardized education has a lot of problems but it's silly to blame schools when they have no other choice.

I think your attack on the UC system and the College Board is a bit naive, honestly. Every institution - not just the schools in the UC system, not just the ones in the United States that prescribe to the College Board's method of testing - has standards and they need them. There is limited space in any given institution. If you're a student with a 2.0 GPA and absolutely no work ethic, why should you take the spot of a diligent student with a 4.5? A company has limited hiring spots. Why should they hire someone who dropped out of high school with no experience, over someone who actually has experience in the industry and graduated at the top of their class from so-and-so university? If you're getting crushed by being told that you're not good enough by universities, you might be in for a surprise when you need to join the work force.

Don't get me wrong - I dislike standardized education as much as the next fellow. But not when it's being attacked for all the wrong reasons.

*The UC and College Board system was brought up, so I'm limiting my already-limited observations to the United States - plus I don't know jack about how education is handled in different countries.

- - - Post Merge - - -

At the very least, you guys are lucky to reside in states other than Arizona; notorious for being one of the worst states for education. To make matters worse, it's incredibly conservative. I hear so many jabs at people for being a certain race/sexuality/religion that it makes me sick. I can't even fathom how horrible it must be for the people being harassed on a daily just for being who they are.

One of the most mindblowing things I learned since I entered my current college is just this. I consider myself very, very lucky - some of my fellow second-year college students are struggling with concepts that I learned in middle school. It's not because I'm intelligent (because I'm not); I was lucky to have gone to a school that, for what it was worth, tried to educate us within the limitations of standardized education.

I know it doesn't mean much, but you have my condolences. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have a decent early education - heck, education isn't even free for as long as it is in the United States in some other countries.

 

[Zura]

I'm home-schooled, does that count?

 

[Munyo]

I found it interesting that you demonize the general nature of our schools and yet you yourself admit in the above paragraph that in the end, it isn't the school's fault per se - it's the simple inescapable fact that the US* just doesn't value education as much as we should.

I don't find it surprising that our school system is based on one meant for factory workers. Factory work is meant to streamline a process at minimal cost to maximize profit. There's a reason why the assembly line had such a powerful impact in its time. Again, you mentioned that schools are not receiving the funding that they need to teach the next generation of young adults. With limited funding, can you really afford this "better education" for everyone? No. Standardized education has a lot of problems but it's silly to blame schools when they have no other choice.

I think your attack on the UC system and the College Board is a bit naive, honestly. Every institution - not just the schools in the UC system, not just the ones in the United States that prescribe to the College Board's method of testing - has standards and they need them. There is limited space in any given institution. If you're a student with a 2.0 GPA and absolutely no work ethic, why should you take the spot of a diligent student with a 4.5? A company has limited hiring spots. Why should they hire someone who dropped out of high school with no experience, over someone who actually has experience in the industry and graduated at the top of their class from so-and-so university? If you're getting crushed by being told that you're not good enough by universities, you might be in for a surprise when you need to join the work force.

Don't get me wrong - I dislike standardized education as much as the next fellow. But not when it's being attacked for all the wrong reasons.

*The UC and College Board system was brought up, so I'm limiting my already-limited observations to the United States - plus I don't know jack about how education is handled in different countries.

Thanks for the input. ^ ^;
The reason why I put the College Board statement is because they already expect us to have an outstanding report card or a high SAT score on top of our extracurricular activities. This was what I was attacking. Because the homework load can be a major headache. A lot of things pile on top of that such as life outside of school and any prior commitments. It's pretty understandable that people with no work ethic is highly to be rejected by colleges. There's a problem though - they're expecting us to have a lot of things done when our life is quite limited. We just shut up and do the work. Honestly, we need a chance to breathe for ourselves.

The attack on classes is an experience at my school. There is a certain system for 11th and 12th graders that they must choose a class out of 6. It must be chosen and it stays on the schedule for 2 years. Even for the permanent class, some people got into the class they didn't prefer. I told my teacher that I felt it wasn't what I wanted as a class, but he told me there wasn't a choice in this. Sorry if I worded it wrong because I was referring to classes chosen by the school.

It's just me, quite uneducated on the school system. Sorry for the mistake(s).

 

[Hai]

Well, I kind of have a not-going-to-school-problem but I don't actively despise it. There is a handful of people that I really don't like because they've bullied some of my friends and I neither hate nor like the rest. I have about 7 people I usually hang out with, but I have better friends outside of school and at the moment I just really like one of them, because my other best friend and her boyfriend are really annoying. As a result I'm even less motivated to go to school.
Also my A-Level years are just really starting next year so as long as I don't have to repeat the year and doesn't really matter. I don't know if I'll be able to get used to going to school every day then though. Plus I get ill very easily and have migraine.
I had 96 hours of missed periods in the first half year of this school year..
My grades are about average because my grades in exams are in every class except math D) at least a B (even after I missed school for three weeks), but my oral participation isn't that great. I could probably get much better grades if I'd go to school more often...
Ah, I don't know what to do except going to school and just skipping one class every week/every two weeks or something.
Also I'm just skipping two hours of physical education.

I'd really love being able to study at home. Kind of jealous here^^

 

[Aran]

Thanks for the input. ^ ^;
The reason why I put the College Board statement is because they already expect us to have an outstanding report card or a high SAT score on top of our extracurricular activities. This was what I was attacking. Because the homework load can be a major headache. A lot of things pile on top of that such as life outside of school and any prior commitments. It's pretty understandable that people with no work ethic is highly to be rejected by colleges. There's a problem though - they're expecting us to have a lot of things done when our life is quite limited. We just shut up and do the work. Honestly, we need a chance to breathe for ourselves.

The attack on classes is an experience at my school. There is a certain system for 11th and 12th graders that they must choose a class out of 6. It must be chosen and it stays on the schedule for 2 years. Even for the permanent class, some people got into the class they didn't prefer. I told my teacher that I felt it wasn't what I wanted as a class, but he told me there wasn't a choice in this. Sorry if I worded it wrong because I was referring to classes chosen by the school.

It's just me, quite uneducated on the school system. Sorry for the mistake(s).

Ouch, a 2 year class? That sounds interesting if it's a class you could choose, but as you've said, that isn't the case And no, I'm probably just as uneducated on the general state of the system - I added to my earlier post that I was just really lucky. Like, you mentioned not being able to take certain AP classes since they were full; my school's AP classes were packed but generally no one was ever turned away from registering for one due to class size.

The thing about the College Board - it is ridiculous but again, it's not exactly a problem inherent with school (or even education, actually). Yes, colleges and institutions are telling you to do all this, but it's actually because of your competition - that is, it's your peers who are the ones actually raising the bar. I feel like every younger generation is actually getting more academically accomplished. It's not an achievement for someone to get a 4.0 GPA while being on a sports team anymore; it's a requirement. Getting a 2300 on the SAT isn't special anymore when so many people can achieve that score; 2400 is suddenly the new "minimum". Students are going above and beyond to guarantee their entry into prestigious universities - cramming in APs, getting perfect SAT/ACT scores, etc. They're raising the bar and it's getting harder to get into universities with "mediocre" credentials with every passing year, and I don't think it's because of funding. If I'm not mistaken Harvard gets criticized for having too much money.

That is probably a different topic than the original one of school, though... xD

 

[WatashiWantsWaffles]

I like primary school! Haha

 

[Lauren]

You know what kids, you can sit there and hate school, I would do anything just to go back to school. University and working isn't a piece of cake. So you can complain about being spoon fed everything to then take exams that's you've basically been told what's on or you can do university exams that you have to learn everything and then go to work at the same time? I'm sorry but when you leave you'll want to go back, I have no sympathy for those who hate school. You hate it because you're treated like a child? You are one until 21... You hate the rules? The rules are there to keep you safe.

 

[Alice]

Man. Some of you kids. I would love to be in school right now. Hell, when I was University, I realised how good I had it in highschool. You don't know what you have until it's gone, as the saying goes. Life is too short to complain about everything that doesn't please you.

 

[Swablu]

I have sorta a bad problem in school too.

Even tho I'm in grade 8, I've always felt alone and picked on because people imitated me or just joked around with me, let me tell you I can't take a joke, NEVER. This kid in my class got way to close to me and started laughing at me because I didn't understand the work even tho I was getting help he was be disgusting to me, even whispered in my ear. I was so disgusted, my teacher always had to deal with people doing that, some boys even go around smacking girls a**** around school. It's truly a pity, they don't do work or anything but it lowered my self esteem, I was always the quiet or shy one, always drawing then these aholes come and pick on me and the school didn't do anything about it I was mad and told my friends, ending up telling the kid, he left me alone but he still pops up. I dot have many friends (like 5) and I have a better relationship with teachers then students. But knowing that what the thing you said in your paragraph is definitely happening in my school, but sometimes the dating relation ships last over 6 months before finding someone has cheated and its disgusting really I hope his stops, again I've seen a grade 4 date a grade 8 an I thought that was weird? There's 100s more couples like that it really creeps me out, that's why I despise the school system

 

[Yuki Nagato]

A lot of it feels like an incredible waste of time.. (yes, maths and analysing texts I'm looking at you). And please tell me why I need to know what the symbols are for the periodic tables.. I don't want to be a chemist.

 

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[Darumy]

I have a generally good relationship with the people at school, classmates or teachers. I'm pretty disjointed from everything ahah I don't get bullied or favorited or welcomed or shunned. I don't dislike or like any group or clique.

With that being said, I despise school. For a lot of reasons haha!

No matter how much I tell myself that people would die for an education, I'm so privileged/blessed, life is what you make it, etc, I honestly hate it. Nothing about it is enjoyable for me. For someone who doesn't even want to wake up to get myself something to eat, it's tiring hahah I'd prefer being comatose for the rest of the time. I don't even remember my previous years well because I came up with...like blank, dulled, complacent personality to go through it. Perpetual sleepiness helps pass the time.

It's weird, I used to be such a star-child overachiever lmao.


That's my fault though! It's true that school is the easiest path to success and whatnot and you should do well, even if it feels pointless haha. 12 years is a lot to dedicate to something you hate but think of it as an investment in your future. It isn't about learning, so don't worry about where you're going to be using natural log or titration in your daily life, it's about passing.

Also, if your highschool years are the best in your life just because you got to be lazy, I hope you are doing something wrong. If these are going to be the best years of my life I don't know what to say.

 

[Nightclaw13]

Yeah. I don't like school so much either.

 

[Brackets]

I disagree with people who say you will wish you're back at school.
I love being able to study what I want at university, and yes it's a lot harder sometimes and I often get overwhelmed with problems I never would have had at school, but overall I'm happier as an adult.
The main thing I didn't like about school was my friendship group and now I live with great friends!

 

[Cazqui]

Yup good thing Graduation is Sunday!