Nintendo pretty much killed the Wii U (?)
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Prof Gallows
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I'm not sure anyone at Nintendo believes that the Wii U has been or ever will be a success.
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltech...on-the-origins-of-nintendos-famous-characters
In that Miyamoto talks about the Wii U:
Miyamoto said:
He's at least a little hopeful for Nintendo's future in regard to their next console, but the Wii U was too slow to innovate like they were hoping it would.
Brad
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I think this all but proves the point that the sales numbers the Wii saw were just an anomaly. Excluding the Wii, every other Nintendo console has sold worse than the one before it.
I think the sales of the Wii gave Nintendo a certain clout, which can be seen as a reason why the named the Wii U what they did; which in-turn confused consumers.
Additionally, the GAMEPAD is helping to put the Wii U in the ground. Anytime a 3rd party wants to develop for Wii U they have to take the gamepad into consideration. Because of this, not a single 3rd party wants to develop for Wii U. And, I don't care how many Zeldas, Marios, and Smash Bros. you put out; no 3rd parties = no system (ostensibly).
The Wii U is still 1,000,000 units sold behind DREAMCAST! Nintendo messed up with the Wii U, and they need to bite the bullet. I guess most their failures here wouldn't seem so misguided and incomprehensible if they would just admit that the Wii U isn't a success. They've failed before, and done perfectly fine. Not really having anything at E3 and talking about NX would have made more sense if they would just admit this stuff.
There's a reason a smartphone developer now owns 10% of their company.
Nintendo didn't kill the Wii U. The Wii U killed the Wii U.
I think the sales of the Wii gave Nintendo a certain clout, which can be seen as a reason why the named the Wii U what they did; which in-turn confused consumers.
Additionally, the GAMEPAD is helping to put the Wii U in the ground. Anytime a 3rd party wants to develop for Wii U they have to take the gamepad into consideration. Because of this, not a single 3rd party wants to develop for Wii U. And, I don't care how many Zeldas, Marios, and Smash Bros. you put out; no 3rd parties = no system (ostensibly).
The Wii U is still 1,000,000 units sold behind DREAMCAST! Nintendo messed up with the Wii U, and they need to bite the bullet. I guess most their failures here wouldn't seem so misguided and incomprehensible if they would just admit that the Wii U isn't a success. They've failed before, and done perfectly fine. Not really having anything at E3 and talking about NX would have made more sense if they would just admit this stuff.
There's a reason a smartphone developer now owns 10% of their company.
Nintendo didn't kill the Wii U. The Wii U killed the Wii U.
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Prof Gallows
Retired Staff
Only thing I disagree on in your post. I know TONS of people personally that love and still play their Wii systems. It's mostly non-first party stuff but that's saying something even more about it. Stuff like Just Dance that take advantage of the motion controls in a way that isn't completely ridiculous are pretty popular from what I can tell.
I think it's hilarious that what kept those people interested in the console are the third party games. For me personally, I hated the Wii. I thought I was pretty much done with home console Nintendo systems after that and with the Wii U being such a failure I can see that my decision was pretty spot on for the most part.(With the exclusion of Mario Kart and Splatoon my Wii U is primarily a Youtube/Netflix streaming device.)
Everything else you mentioned though is pretty much hitting it home and I think they're starting to realize that they're not going to be able to keep the system alive for much longer. The lack of Wii U games announced this year could have been their way of saying, "Okay, we see when we have failed and we're moving on. We will talk to you more about the NX next year when we have a better idea of what we're doing." So they showed off a bunch of 3DS games and spinoff titles in the hopes that would keep at least some people pacified until next year. It didn't work but that at least makes a little bit of sense.
And when next year does come around they can show the NX and send off the Wii U with Zelda as a console closing title(like the Gamecube but without the ****ty next-gen port).
Cress
Senior Member
The 3DS had worse launch titles than the Wii U, and it's doing amazing. But Nintendo treated the 3DS better after launch, so I guess that's why.
dudeabides
Far out, man
Mine is still alive and kicking and I plan on buying Mario maker next.
Rasha
Antisocial
finally someone not making a depressing comment and is enjoying themselves, it's funny I shouldn't be the one saying this because I had my fair share with the rants lol
Prof Gallows
Retired Staff
Granted I've mostly been discussing the process of how the Wii U is essentially a soon to be dead console I do use mine pretty much every single day. I might not be playing games but at least I'm getting something of my money's worth out of it when I'm not playing Splatoon or Mario Kart.
And I plan on getting Super Mario Maker as well! I love watching all of the custom levels people do on Youtube from Super Mario World and Maker pretty much lets you do that without having to go through a complicated mess. I know Kaiaa will be getting Yoshi's Wooly World so when that's here we will probably play that together.
Hmm.. I probably won't get Amiibo Party Festival or whatever that's called or Star Fox Zero. The only way to get the Bowser and Donkey Kong amiibos is through getting the Wii U edition of Skylanders so I'll get that too but I'd much rather play it on the PS4.(if the gameplay is too annoying on Wii U I'll probably try and get a used copy for the PS4).. and Zelda. If Animal Crossing gets announced for the Wii U I'll get that too but as far as anything else that's out or announced, not in the least bit interested.
Rasha
Antisocial
I believe Skylanders Trap Team got a better rating for the Wii U and scored the lowest on the ps4, I didn't watch or read a review proving that though and I don't own the game yet but I've seen the info on Wikipedia, maybe they made a use of the gamepad with it? maybe the upcoming game will do as well?? maybe you should consider that. I honestly find the bowser amiibo/skylander alone a selling point because it would be awesome to play with him alongside Spyro *o*
Prof Gallows
Retired Staff
That's why the ratings for the PS4 are so bad lol. Their booth only allowed you to play with the Bowser and Donkey Kong figures on the Wii U consoles, even though the figures work regardless of which console it's being played on. They've just made a deal with Nintendo this time around and it's pretty smart, they get to make Nintendo themed Skylanders and Nintendo put them into their direct and the Skylander figure doubles as an Amiibo so you can use it with other Nintendo titles that support Amiibo.
It's really just control preference for me. I can't stand the Wii U pad and much prefer an actual controller. Had the same complaint with the Wiimotes when I played the Wii. Hopefully Nintendo's next console won't try to 'innovate' too much with the controller and focus on some other aspect that's unique.
From the treehouse demonstration, I was under the impression that the bowser and kong skylanders only worked on nintendo consoles?
Prof Gallows
Retired Staff
Skylanders figures aren't console limited anymore. Nintendo only wants their figures to be played on their console so they aren't going to show anyone playing with them on another console, but I've come across quite a few videos of Bowser and DK being played on the PS4 in private interviews. The only part that won't work on other consoles is the Amiibo part, which you can toggle between on the base of the figures.
It was just a market thing. I mean, the only way you can get the figures is if you buy them with the Wii U version of the game. So they're essentially forcing people to play it on the Wii U if they want those two figures, but if you really wanted to you could just get the box with them in it and just take the game itself to Gamestop or BestBuy and buy a different console version.
Cress
Senior Member
Prof Gallows
Retired Staff
Yeah that's complete bull**** lol
Won't they lock them on other consoles for release though? Like, it's just something they've not done as of yet but will be done for release?
I mean, I remember that Marvel Alliance game that was supposed to have Link and Samus as playable characters for the Gamecube version only that never happened because the demo they presented to Nintendo showed Playstation buttons on the screen...I just find it a bit hard to believe Nintendo will be okay with these 'Skymiibo' being usable on other systems and not making Activision work on a patch to 'disable' these specific characters.
It would just be really odd for it to happen give how Nintendo have been in the past, especially with that Marvel game. Surely they know people can easily get hold of the figures on PS4? I'm surprised that with just the fact it's been proven they work on PS4, Nintendo hasn't already taken their ball and gone home xD
Rasha
Antisocial
^ this. it would be so hard to believe that nintendo would just let their iconic characters slip into other platforms this easily, even if I worked at nintendo I would consider that. plus the exclusivity will put them at advantage
Orieii
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Why is Nintendo working on a new console... again?? The WiiU is still fresh and barely has any games for it. WiiU sales would increase if they released more popular titles for it.. Nintendo confuses me sometimes :/
The Wii U is coming up to 3 years old.
Not that it isn't too soon, but Nintendo often announce their successors are in development very early. Whether or not the NX is released soon is debatable at this point, but them announcing a new console is in the works so soon isn't that strange.
