NEW Nintendo 3DS (& XL)

ThomasNLD said:
I might buy a new 3DS if it helps me get online easier. I`m sick and tired of all the crap this old 3DS gives me. Appearently I have the wrong router and now it refuses to connect even when trying to connect to my phone serving as a hotspot (which worked fine with my old phone). I need to completely manually set it and use data out of my phone data package.

I`m a nerd, but not when it comes to this type of crap. Bleh.
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It could be your internet setting type. Something with the WEP and WPA and WPA2 or something along those lines. I think you have to have it set to WEP for it to work correctly. At least that's what I was told when my DS wouldn't connect with Pokemon White.
 
Dasbreenee said:
It could be your internet setting type. Something with the WEP and WPA and WPA2 or something along those lines. I think you have to have it set to WEP for it to work correctly. At least that's what I was told when my DS wouldn't connect with Pokemon White.
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Yep, that's why I hated the old DS consoles and most of the games.

Shortly explained old DS and non Dsi-enhanced games can only connect to WEP, and you can't crossconnect like playing Pok?mon White on an old DS it won't work and vice-versa.

However if you play Pok?mon White on a Dsi/3ds model it will work since both can connect to WPA/WP2
 
I plan to get a N3DS for my birthday this summer, because I just know they'll start releasing cool designs if I get one the day they come out.
 
They should have doubled the resolution of the screens but packed a much better CPU to deal with it. The PPI is absolute trash on the 3DS XL, pretty much making me want to avoid it at all costs. But look! No regular New 3DS in the US where I just so happen to live. Moving the resolution from 400x240 to 800x480 would have been highly beneficial to the viewing experience, keeping the same aspect ratio as well making it a little easier on developers. That would give the regular 3DS approximately 240 PPI (up from the current 125) and the 3DS XL 191 PPI (up from the current 95). Those are very doable pixel densities for me, but anything below approx. 175 PPI begins to look trashy to me in this day and age. I guess I'm just spoiled with the 326 PPI in my iPhone 6 and iPad mini 2.

But cmon, the iPhone 3GS was the last "non-retina" iPhone screen at 163 PPI, released in 2009. 6 years ago. It has approximately the same screen size as the 3DS as well at 3.5 inches. Nintendo kind of should step up their game in my opinion. I'm not someone to wage spec wars because I think it's more about the real life experience than the specs, but the display is so poor on the 3DS XL (pixel density wise) that it easily ruins things for me.

Anyway. One last thing. Does Pok?mon X/Y and Pok?mon OR/AS lag and stutter when in 3D mode on the New 3DS? That battle on Alpha Sapphire with the whirlpool battlefield right before going after Kyogre was horrendous in 3D. Under the right circumstances you could get 15-25fps sort of lag.
 
XTheLancerX said:
They should have doubled the resolution of the screens but packed a much better CPU to deal with it. The PPI is absolute trash on the 3DS XL, pretty much making me want to avoid it at all costs. But look! No regular New 3DS in the US where I just so happen to live. Moving the resolution from 400x240 to 800x480 would have been highly beneficial to the viewing experience, keeping the same aspect ratio as well making it a little easier on developers. That would give the regular 3DS approximately 240 PPI (up from the current 125) and the 3DS XL 191 PPI (up from the current 95). Those are very doable pixel densities for me, but anything below approx. 175 PPI begins to look trashy to me in this day and age. I guess I'm just spoiled with the 326 PPI in my iPhone 6 and iPad mini 2.
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That would mean that games have to support a 800x480 resolution. Which they don't.

It should be something to consider for the next system, but since games are rendered at 400x240, upscaling it to 800x480 would bring out a lot of blur, and in the cases of some games they would get jaggy graphics. A lot of games from the previous generation were upscaled like this, and the graphics were not as crisp as they should've been.

So while the PPI might increase, the quality of the game's visual output actually decreases.
 
Reindeer said:
That would mean that games have to support a 800x480 resolution. Which they don't.

It should be something to consider for the next system, but since games are rendered at 400x240, upscaling it to 800x480 would bring out a lot of blur, and in the cases of some games they would get jaggy graphics. A lot of games from the previous generation were upscaled like this, and the graphics were not as crisp as they should've been.

So while the PPI might increase, the quality of the game's visual output actually decreases.
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Gah, I feel annoyed now because I forgot to include that part into my original post haha, completely aware of that issue.

I know this probably would be unlikely, but developers could definitely make a software update to add support for the new resolutions, unlike the old DS games which had to be up scaled for the 3DS. I think any newly released game after the New 3DS should be required to support both resolutions. Only problem there is that it could dramatically increase file sizes for games since they would need to include higher res graphics and lower res graphics for the New 3DS and regular 3DS. Unoptimized games would be especially unpleasant though for the XL. The games on the 3DS XL already look horrible and jagged because of the atrociously low 93 or so PPI, sometimes the frame rate even looks bad, or there's a blur with the movement of objects because of the incredibly apparent pixels. Can't even imagine that being upscaled to a screen that even is slightly larger (isn't it around 4.5 vs 4.8 inches between the regular XL and the new XL?) After looking deeper into this now though, I can see why it probably would be best to wait for the next system to improve the screen resolution.
 
XTheLancerX said:
Gah, I feel annoyed now because I forgot to include that part into my original post haha, completely aware of that issue.

I know this probably would be unlikely, but developers could definitely make a software update to add support for the new resolutions, unlike the old DS games which had to be up scaled for the 3DS. I think any newly released game after the New 3DS should be required to support both resolutions. Only problem there is that it could dramatically increase file sizes for games since they would need to include higher res graphics and lower res graphics for the New 3DS and regular 3DS. Unoptimized games would be especially unpleasant though for the XL. The games on the 3DS XL already look horrible and jagged because of the atrociously low 93 or so PPI, sometimes the frame rate even looks bad, or there's a blur with the movement of objects because of the incredibly apparent pixels. Can't even imagine that being upscaled to a screen that even is slightly larger (isn't it around 4.5 vs 4.8 inches between the regular XL and the new XL?) After looking deeper into this now though, I can see why it probably would be best to wait for the next system to improve the screen resolution.
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Who gives a crap?

Just be happy you have a decent gaming system.
 
Dasbreenee said:
It could be your internet setting type. Something with the WEP and WPA and WPA2 or something along those lines. I think you have to have it set to WEP for it to work correctly. At least that's what I was told when my DS wouldn't connect with Pokemon White.
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Yeah, this is the problem I think, but I can`t change the router settings without comprising the safety of the computer, according to a Dutch pc forum. Due to work, thats important.

So thats why I get online updates and downloadable purchases using my phone as a wifi hotspot. That doesn`t work either now, so I probably have to manually set the ip adres. I think then I`ll atleast get to go online for important updates.

But I read somewhere that newer 3DS models have better connection possibilities, but I`ll have to research that first.
 
XTheLancerX said:
Gah, I feel annoyed now because I forgot to include that part into my original post haha, completely aware of that issue.

I know this probably would be unlikely, but developers could definitely make a software update to add support for the new resolutions, unlike the old DS games which had to be up scaled for the 3DS. I think any newly released game after the New 3DS should be required to support both resolutions. Only problem there is that it could dramatically increase file sizes for games since they would need to include higher res graphics and lower res graphics for the New 3DS and regular 3DS. Unoptimized games would be especially unpleasant though for the XL. The games on the 3DS XL already look horrible and jagged because of the atrociously low 93 or so PPI, sometimes the frame rate even looks bad, or there's a blur with the movement of objects because of the incredibly apparent pixels. Can't even imagine that being upscaled to a screen that even is slightly larger (isn't it around 4.5 vs 4.8 inches between the regular XL and the new XL?) After looking deeper into this now though, I can see why it probably would be best to wait for the next system to improve the screen resolution.
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The current XL and new XL have the same screen size. It's the regular version that's seeing an increase in screen size.

As for updating, you might have realized it already but it would mean more costs for the companies that made those titles. Not even Nintendo would want to dig up their game files from 2011 and update them just so they can support a larger resolution. There's too many costs involved and wouldn't work out because of that, as some companies would just refuse to update it. That would mean some games would have to have a disclaimer that they can only run at the lower resolution.

It's a nice idea, but it's really impractical. It's best to just wait for the next handheld and see what they do with that.

Izzy Reincarnated said:
Just be happy you have a decent gaming system.
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Especially one with good games and proper support.
(I'm looking at you, Vita.)
 
I'm not sure if this has been discussed or not, but will the new 3DS play regular DS games?...
 
...you can't cross-connect old DS games with dsi/3ds consoles(the ds wi-fi is down anyway) but still.

Also ugh I so want that new MM 3ds xl now but yeah noone's selling it here, bleh
 
ebay is the best place
I found like 50 majora's mask **NEW** preorderable 3ds xls for under ?300
so i got that going for me
 
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