New Kirby game from Hal studios

[Tyeforce]

when i saw Warioware: DIY on sale for $25 the weekend it came out, i knew they weren't even concerned about it. i was really close to buying it.

tye, evergreen or not, a game needs to go on sale at some point. i've made this point before about SSB Melee, and it's ****ing ridiculous. it isn't good economics, it's raping the consumer's wallet and taking advantage of parents who are trusting the Nintendo-brand without looking into things.

i love mario kart as much as an average person, and i love a good handful of games nintendo makes, but i would buy a used xbox before i payed full price for mario kart DS, or super smash bros. melee. (which i have played more than any person should)

i understand where you're coming from, but it simply existing does not make it right, it just makes it so. you can defend nintendo if you want, but i severely doubt that there are enough people still buying the games to warrant the price being that high. the only thing that keeps the price up is that it's a nintendo product, as opposed to another company's. it's all nintendo has to fight back with at this point, but that doesn't make it any more right.

You're talking to someone who sells video games for a living. I think I know what I'm talking about. Mario Kart DS may be over 6 years old now, but it still sells like crazy. Hell, we're sold out of it at work most of the time. Every time we get a new shipment, BAM, it's gone in less than a week. That goes for many of Nintendo's games, especially Mario games. So don't tell me that their prices don't match the demand, because they certainly do.

I find it funny that you're criticizing Nintendo for not dropping their prices as if they're the only company like that. Most companies don't drop the price of a hot selling item. Hell, many companies will raise the price of hot selling items!! This happens a lot when it comes to toys, and I see it happen all the time. At least Nintendo never raises their prices. The prices may not drop for years, but that sure beats the price rising.

And I think you're a little confused about how sales work. WarioWare: D.I.Y. being on sale for $25 the weekend it came out is hardly uncommon for a new game, and it certainly doesn't mean that the company expects it to sell poorly. Many times video games will go on sale shortly after or even immediately when they're released. The video game publisher has nothing to do with that, that's all on the retail side. Retailers have sales and special offers on video games all the time. But a sale is very different from a permanent price drop, or worse, being clearanced out. Sales are temporary price drops or offers that exist to pull in more sales, create hype, and steer the consumer away from competing retailers. They usually aren't related to poor sales of an item at all, as many best selling items often go on sale. Permanent price cuts and putting items on clearance, however, is directly tied to poor sales.

You may not like it, but prices aren't going to drop just because you think they should. It's just the way the economy works. Besides, if they did lower the price for high demand games, it would be near impossible to find them because they would sell so fast that the supply wouldn't be enough to meet the demand.

 

[Tyeforce]

That was my point though. How can I take advantage of a sale, if the games that I want aren't on sale? Evergreen or not, there's a point where you need to lower the price of a game. See: Super Smash Bros. Melee. I still see it at some stores, priced at $45.

Like Psychonaut, I think you're confusing sales for price cuts. Read my last post. Anyway, there are definitely a lot of sales out there for the games you're looking for, you just aren't looking hard enough. There are many, many retailers out there, both online and offline, that are always having sales. For example, Toys "R" Us has sales on games all the time, and that certainly doesn't exclude big first party Nintendo games. And what stores are you going to that still sell GameCube games, anyway? I haven't seen a new GameCube game being sold in stores for years, only used ones at GameStop.

 

[Psychonaut]

Spoiler

You're talking to someone who sells video games for a living. I think I know what I'm talking about. Mario Kart DS may be over 6 years old now, but it still sells like crazy. Hell, we're sold out of it at work most of the time. Every time we get a new shipment, BAM, it's gone in less than a week. That goes for many of Nintendo's games, especially Mario games. So don't tell me that their prices don't match the demand, because they certainly do.

I find it funny that you're criticizing Nintendo for not dropping their prices as if they're the only company like that. Most companies don't drop the price of a hot selling item. Hell, many companies will raise the price of hot selling items!! This happens a lot when it comes to toys, and I see it happen all the time. At least Nintendo never raises their prices. The prices may not drop for years, but that sure beats the price rising.

And I think you're a little confused about how sales work. WarioWare: D.I.Y. being on sale for $25 the weekend it came out is hardly uncommon for a new game, and it certainly doesn't mean that the company expects it to sell poorly. Many times video games will go on sale shortly after or even immediately when they're released. The video game publisher has nothing to do with that, that's all on the retail side. Retailers have sales and special offers on video games all the time. But a sale is very different from a permanent price drop, or worse, being clearanced out. Sales are temporary price drops or offers that exist to pull in more sales, create hype, and steer the consumer away from competing retailers. They usually aren't related to poor sales of an item at all, as many best selling items often go on sale. Permanent price cuts and putting items on clearance, however, is directly tied to poor sales.

You may not like it, but prices aren't going to drop just because you think they should. It's just the way the economy works. Besides, if they did lower the price for high demand games, it would be near impossible to find them because they would sell so fast that the supply wouldn't be enough to meet the demand.

if the game is still constantly selling, sure. i seriously doubt mario kart ds is still selling to the point of warranting that price, however.

@ warioware, i don't think it was a sale in meaning the price was lowered for that weekend, it was being sold on average at that price, which is considerably lower than the MSRP of most new DS games (which to my knowledge is $30 or $35). i wouldn't say warioware games are unknown, though they might not be as big as other nintendo titles, i still don't think they deserve to be lower than a 5 year old game simply because it's mario kart.

i know how supply and demand works, i know that this conversation/whatever i say won't change anything about the prices, and i know this is common practice for many companies, but again, it is a practice i do not agree with and don't find worth upholding in the future. it's stupid.

also, not to mean offense, but unless there is a sale, i would not buy games at toys r us simply because they tend to be at a higher price than other outlets. this brings up my point that parents are the ones who are, in the end, paying for the items. parents are more inclined to go with big name titles (such as mario kart) simply because they are what they are, and they are willing to pay whatever price they are, to please their kids. this may or may not be the case at every store, and i am not an authority on the matter, but i would assume that it is relevant to some degree.

@ your response to aaron about gamecube games on shelves, i remember melee being at the same price it was for launch (~$50) a few months after brawl released. evergreen or not, when a new title in the series comes out and the system the previous title was on is being phased out, the game needs to have some form of price drop. my opinion.

 

[AnimalCrossingcool]

Great? A new Kirby game? More fluffy balls....

 

[[Nook]]

Great? A new Kirby game? More fluffy balls....

You don't seem excited.

Can I help you?

 

[Tyeforce]

if the game is still constantly selling, sure. i seriously doubt mario kart ds is still selling to the point of warranting that price, however.

@ warioware, i don't think it was a sale in meaning the price was lowered for that weekend, it was being sold on average at that price, which is considerably lower than the MSRP of most new DS games (which to my knowledge is $30 or $35). i wouldn't say warioware games are unknown, though they might not be as big as other nintendo titles, i still don't think they deserve to be lower than a 5 year old game simply because it's mario kart.

i know how supply and demand works, i know that this conversation/whatever i say won't change anything about the prices, and i know this is common practice for many companies, but again, it is a practice i do not agree with and don't find worth upholding in the future. it's stupid.

also, not to mean offense, but unless there is a sale, i would not buy games at toys r us simply because they tend to be at a higher price than other outlets. this brings up my point that parents are the ones who are, in the end, paying for the items. parents are more inclined to go with big name titles (such as mario kart) simply because they are what they are, and they are willing to pay whatever price they are, to please their kids. this may or may not be the case at every store, and i am not an authority on the matter, but i would assume that it is relevant to some degree.

@ your response to aaron about gamecube games on shelves, i remember melee being at the same price it was for launch (~$50) a few months after brawl released. evergreen or not, when a new title in the series comes out and the system the previous title was on is being phased out, the game needs to have some form of price drop. my opinion.

Like I said, Mario Kart DS is still selling enough to warrant its price. I witness it selling everyday, and you can even check the sales if you don't believe me.

As for WarioWare: D.I.Y., I know for a fact that it sold for $34.99 at launch. If you saw a lower price, it was a sale. As for it getting a price drop before Mario Kart DS, it's only because it didn't sell nearly as well as Mario Kart DS did and continues to sell.

You don't have to agree with it, but that's just how the economy is. You're not gonna see best selling items at a cheap price. That goes for pretty much anything.

And Toys "R" Us is pretty much the same as all other retailers when it comes to video game prices. All video games are the same price at launch, and the only way you can get them cheaper than that is either buying them used, on sale, or at a place that buys items in huge quantities like Costco. Even then, you're only saving a few dollars. You don't start to see non-sale games for different prices at different retailers until at least a few months after they've been released, and even then the difference is very minimal. As for Toys "R" Us, from what I've seen, we have quite a few games at lower prices than places like GameStop, Best Buy, Target, etc. But it varies on a game to game basis. Some games are cheaper here, some are cheaper there. But, like I said, the difference is very minimal most of the time.

And where the hell are you seeing these GameCube games for sale?!

 

[Bacon Boy]

Like I said, Mario Kart DS is still selling enough to warrant its price. I witness it selling everyday, and you can even check the sales if you don't believe me.

As for WarioWare: D.I.Y., I know for a fact that it sold for $34.99 at launch. If you saw a lower price, it was a sale. As for it getting a price drop before Mario Kart DS, it's only because it didn't sell nearly as well as Mario Kart DS did and continues to sell.

You don't have to agree with it, but that's just how the economy is. You're not gonna see best selling items at a cheap price. That goes for pretty much anything.

And Toys "R" Us is pretty much the same as all other retailers when it comes to video game prices. All video games are the same price at launch, and the only way you can get them cheaper than that is either buying them used, on sale, or at a place that buys items in huge quantities like Costco. Even then, you're only saving a few dollars. You don't start to see non-sale games for different prices at different retailers until at least a few months after they've been released, and even then the difference is very minimal. As for Toys "R" Us, from what I've seen, we have quite a few games at lower prices than places like GameStop, Best Buy, Target, etc. But it varies on a game to game basis. Some games are cheaper here, some are cheaper there. But, like I said, the difference is very minimal most of the time.

And where the hell are you seeing these GameCube games for sale?!

At Gamestop, no doubt. but I don't they're still $50 in retail stores. The most I've seen one go for is around $30.

 

[Tyeforce]

At Gamestop, no doubt. but I don't they're still $50 in retail stores. The most I've seen one go for is around $30.

I meant new GameCube games, not pre-owned ones. GameStop, as far as I know, only sells pre-owned GameCube games now. And you're certainly not going to be charged $50 for a pre-owned GameCube game (even with as much as GameStop rips you off).

But maybe there are a few select stores that are still selling new GameCube games, and perhaps the prices were so high because they're so rare to find new now. I dunno. But I haven't seen a new GameCube game for sale in years, and certainly not one at $50.

 

[Psychonaut]

Like I said, Mario Kart DS is still selling enough to warrant its price. I witness it selling everyday, and you can even check the sales if you don't believe me.

As for WarioWare: D.I.Y., I know for a fact that it sold for $34.99 at launch. If you saw a lower price, it was a sale. As for it getting a price drop before Mario Kart DS, it's only because it didn't sell nearly as well as Mario Kart DS did and continues to sell.

You don't have to agree with it, but that's just how the economy is. You're not gonna see best selling items at a cheap price. That goes for pretty much anything.

And Toys "R" Us is pretty much the same as all other retailers when it comes to video game prices. All video games are the same price at launch, and the only way you can get them cheaper than that is either buying them used, on sale, or at a place that buys items in huge quantities like Costco. Even then, you're only saving a few dollars. You don't start to see non-sale games for different prices at different retailers until at least a few months after they've been released, and even then the difference is very minimal. As for Toys "R" Us, from what I've seen, we have quite a few games at lower prices than places like GameStop, Best Buy, Target, etc. But it varies on a game to game basis. Some games are cheaper here, some are cheaper there. But, like I said, the difference is very minimal most of the time.

And where the hell are you seeing these GameCube games for sale?!

saw it at best buy (gamecube game(s))

was in a sears today, and looked (just because of this thread) at the DS games - saw ~5 mario kart ds games and ~5 AC:WW games. last time i saw WW was at best buy, and it was just one. all of the DS games were either $30 (for the pokemon mystery dungeon spin-offs) and $35 for everything else. am i losing my memory, or were DS games originally supposed to be $30?
i usually go to best buy for games, as they are (more often than not) cheaper than toys r us, omitting sales. it's usually $5 or so, sometimes more, but they've got more than enough of my money. heh.

as for MKS, i've seen it bundled with the console every which way.. and it still baffles me how it's selling so much, years after release. give me some sauce, and i'll believe you. otherwise, i can't believe that it's still selling enough to warrant the same price as it's initial release.

 

[Mr Meme]

Woooh

But i wish it was for Ds and Wii!

But i guess its time to shake the Dust off of the wii and get it outta the

Wait.....Where is it?