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IT'S THE END! (of Pokémon)
- Thread starter Vex L'Cour
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Vex L'Cour
Weebalicious Furry.
-sits, warming self by the flame war caused by this- mnnn...Wish I'd bought Marshmellows now
crazyredd45
DJ. Atomika
I'd like to see remakes
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Didn't they say that they didn't completely shut out the idea of gray? :/
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Slifer Slacker
Senior Member
if they make Hoenn remakes (which i hope) i will start with my mudkip again 
crazyredd45
DJ. Atomika
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Slifer Slacker
Senior Member
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crazyredd45
DJ. Atomika
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Psychonaut
Senior Member
if you read any of my posts at this point, you would understand i have at least one point that makes these a bad thing.
i somehow thought you'd bring up that the original games had four releases. if you count green as an american release, you're ****ing stupid, i don't even care.
and as my previous post has already gone over each game and their pros and cons, along with a question of "why couldn't they just release it in the regular two games?", i think this whole paragraph is kind of redundant and pointless.
i think that you, as often you do, are idolizing nintendo, and making them into something they aren't, or more specifically, making them into something greater than what they are.
to think that it is okay, much less right of any company to milk a franchise is just flat out ignorant.
would you go and see every batman movie if they made one every year, using half of the stock footage with new audio? my guess would be no. would you see a new batman movie every 3-5 years if they completely revamp the story, characters, and set? unless you just plainly dislike batman (in which case, substitute batman with star wars, another superhero you may like, dreamworks/pixar films, etc), you'd probably love having a new movie, and loathe having a ripoff quick-buck.
why should the pokemon franchise doing the same thing be treated like it's okay?
i think at this point i need to stop replying, because you are a brick wall.
i only hope that you wise up one day, or you're going to look back and see a lot of wasted money.
except you'll probably see 6+ versions of pokemon as "okay" by then, and look back at the "old days" of 3 versions as nostalgic.
sickening.
Ah, the old brick wall attack. You know, you're as much as a "brick wall" as you make me out to be. You'll never stop attacking me until you feel that you've accomplished your life goal of making me hate Nintendo or something. Listen, I'm not making Nintendo out to be perfect or anything. That's just what you want to believe I'm trying to do, because that's all I am to you, the crazy Nintendo fanboy. You don't even try to accept my point of view on things, you just instantly assume I'm talking crap to make Nintendo look good. Well, that's just not the truth.
And, no, I don't count Pok?mon Red and Green as an American release. Why does that even matter, though? Now you're just bringing up irrelevant things and attacking me for no reason at all. The fact that Red and Green, the original pair of Pok?mon games, didn't make it out of Japan means nothing. They were still made, and then a third version, Blue, was released in Japan, and that third version was split into the Red and Blue that we know outside of Japan. Then Japan got a fourth version in the form of Yellow, which was only a third version to us, but that doesn't change the fact that there were really four (five, even, if you count both Red versions) versions in Generation I. But what does any of this have to do with anything? Nothing at all. I was just being technical when stating that every generation has had a third version, or even a fourth version in the case of Generation I. I was just stating a fact. Why is that any reason to attack me? I don't understand you at all.
And, as I said before, and as you will continue to ignore every time I do it, I did agree with you in that it's not a good thing to "milk" a franchise...depending on the situation, however. There's a big difference between milking a franchise by releasing many low quality games in rapid succession, and releasing a few updated versions or remakes in between generations. If you really insist that there shouldn't be third versions and remakes, there are only two alternatives; either they don't release any additional games between generations, or they rush each generation to get them out sooner. The latter would mean that the quality of the games would likely suffer greatly, not to mention we'd probably be at over 1,000 Pok?mon by now. The former is what I assume you'd prefer, but why exactly? You used Batman movies as an example...but that's a very flawed example. Movies are very different from games. You don't play movies. You can't compare an improved versions of a movie with a few new scenes and such to an improved version of a game with some brand new elements. It's especially true with Pok?mon, because even some of the simplest additions can be a big difference to the game.
I know that you feel that anything new added to a third version could have technically been included in the first pair of games, and that's why you're so opposed to the idea of third versions, and you're right, those additions very well could have been included in the first versions. But Game Freak may not have thought of certain elements until after the games were released, which isn't uncommon in any work of art. After you make something, you think of things that you could have done, and you notice things that could be better and you wish you could fix it. Third versions allow them to do this. Now, I know you would only take this argument seriously if you believed that Game Freak hasn't just been purposely excluding things that they've already thought of in the first versions to save for a third version, and that's also a possibility, but it's impossible for either of us to know the truth about that either way.
But in the end, whatever the case, I don't care, because I still get new Pok?mon games to play. The products are what really matter, not the company behind them. And it's funny that you care so much about what you think Nintendo is doing wrong, and you'll complain as much as you want, but for companies that you like, you have nothing to say but praise. Sounds a lot like me and Nintendo, huh? It's understandable to like a company because you like all the products they make, as I do with Nintendo, but that doesn't mean that it's okay to attack anyone else who has an opposing opinion from yours, or attack them just because they're talking highly of a different company that they like. You don't see me bash Sony or Microsoft, or people who are supporting them, do you? No. At least not anymore, I'm beyond that now. And as much as you'll tell me otherwise, I don't love every single thing Nintendo makes and does. There are some game that they make that just don't interest me at all, or even some that I downright hate, but I just don't bring it up because there's no point to. I like talking about the things I like, not the things I hate. The same goes for Apple. You know I'm a huge Apple fan, I'm sure. But that certainly doesn't mean that I love everything about the company. There are many, many things about Apple that piss me off, and Steve Jobs, as brilliant as he may be, is a real douche. But they make some products that I like, so I'm going to buy their products regardless. Just like I use Google's search engine because it's the best out there, even though the company is being so unethical nowadays. If there's a product I like, I'm gonna buy it. And guess what? I like Pok?mon games. Sure, I'd be disappointed if a low quality Pok?mon game was released, but so far that hasn't happened (spin-offs aside). So I'll keep buying Pok?mon games, because I want to play Pok?mon, dammit! And I want to keep that experience fresh, even if it means having a few similar games now and then. As long as there are new features and such, and as long as there's a brand new Pok?mon game in the works that will be release eventually, I'm perfectly content, and I don't see why any other fan wouldn't be, either.
And, no, I wouldn't like 6 versions of the same game, and the fact that you even think that I would just proves how wrong your true idea about me really is. A third version isn't bad at all. I don't even play both of the first versions, anyway, just the primary one. Then a year or two later when they release a third version, I'll play through it again, but I'll appreciate all the new changes and additions. It's not unlike a second quest in Zelda. Sometimes it's fun to play things over again, and I'm sure you know that. But six versions is definitely way too much, I know that much. It'll never happen, anyway. (If it did, they'll probably run out of colors and gems to name the versions after, lol.) Oh, and it's not wasted money. Not as long as I enjoy every game, right? At least I know it's not as much of a waste as you buying a four pack of Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition is, lol. And I hope that you don't own any of the previous versions of Street Fighter IV, or else you'd just be proving your hypocrisy.
Slifer Slacker
Senior Member
phew, i want 3ds hoenn. end of.
robokabuto
Senior Member
you know, they could make two kinds of pokemon gray, one for the NDS/DSi and one for the 3DS, if that's possible, then that way everyone's happy!!!
crazyredd45
DJ. Atomika
In concept it works but it is kinda pointless. THey could make a 3DS version and that could convince people to buy but could lose buyers. Whereas if they did ands game they could lose customers like me who sold our ds,dsi,dsixl to get the 3ds. But toghether the differences between games would annoy people.you know, they could make two kinds of pokemon gray, one for the NDS/DSi and one for the 3DS, if that's possible, then that way everyone's happy!!!
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