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Mafia Island Madness - Town Wins
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Going in docs here is still entirely useless, for a couple of reasons. Epona's theory is also fundamentally flawed.
Detail here: If there's a real cop who got found by a rolecop, the realcop should just claim, if epona believes I am mafia, and daniel is doc, then doc goes on cop every single round for free until mafia is forced to sac doc, meaning that I just selfconfirmed myself for no reason.
The second two people claimed doc it was safe for real cop to claim.
So therefore epona's theory is useless.
let's go into why the doc kill here is always mafia motivated.
(I know I have to use kill as a replacement for the L word.)
Detail here: If there's a real cop who got found by a rolecop, the realcop should just claim, if epona believes I am mafia, and daniel is doc, then doc goes on cop every single round for free until mafia is forced to sac doc, meaning that I just selfconfirmed myself for no reason.
The second two people claimed doc it was safe for real cop to claim.
So therefore epona's theory is useless.
let's go into why the doc kill here is always mafia motivated.
(I know I have to use kill as a replacement for the L word.)
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
sure but do you like my cosplay of carlisle
Currently the doc kill is being lead by volt (who thinks my doc claim is useless if there's a role cop) and Geoni, who thinks 2 doc claims are inherently unbalanced.
Given the fact that the setup is still unknown, we're STILL sorting in docs when there's no reason to. I will fully admit that I didn't think there was a rolecop. but it's STILL ok. because in the evry worst case scenario, mafia is forced to kill outside of docs anyways, and we can sort this out on a different day. I mean the "theoretical" worst case scenario is that Daniel is doc, and I'm doc, and mafia somehow kills one of us, putting the other in the worst possible case scenario.
But given the fact that you guys are planning on killing me anyways, then you have no reason to do it before any potential kill given the fact that all it's going to do is set up dan to be confirmed as a kill tmrw.
I still think we should get Geoni because I think they're the one who's vote was most mafia-oriented.
Given the fact that the setup is still unknown, we're STILL sorting in docs when there's no reason to. I will fully admit that I didn't think there was a rolecop. but it's STILL ok. because in the evry worst case scenario, mafia is forced to kill outside of docs anyways, and we can sort this out on a different day. I mean the "theoretical" worst case scenario is that Daniel is doc, and I'm doc, and mafia somehow kills one of us, putting the other in the worst possible case scenario.
But given the fact that you guys are planning on killing me anyways, then you have no reason to do it before any potential kill given the fact that all it's going to do is set up dan to be confirmed as a kill tmrw.
I still think we should get Geoni because I think they're the one who's vote was most mafia-oriented.
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
shawo ngl if i was cop i would never think about claiming
bc im dumb btw
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bc im dumb btw
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
i can protect myself
1. you can still test docs by having them go on interchangably, finding potentially not one, but two mafia.
2. Wi~fom~
Not to mention a doc save is just game winning because we get a free clue.
My point is, you're projecting a scenario that isn't realistic, if you really, really, cared about mechanics then that wouldn't happen.
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And yeah I'm acknowleding that daniel. I'm saying that it's BAD to go in me and you. I'm not saying you're mafia, I'm not saying I want to kill you, I'm not saying I want to die to sort in us. I'm saying I think mafia is leading this cuz they know we're both town.
EVEN if it's one mafia, mafia would be leading this.
The only justified comment I've seen so far was from volt - who has a logical push between the two of us.
I don't THINK it's inherently unbalanced I KNOW it's unbalanced because if the two doctors are still alive it means if there is only one wolf left they'd have to solo which is piss-poor game design that I've never seen once in the 100+ forum games I've played and watched.
And I don't believe for a second you didn't think there was a rolecop, you just pinged the host acting like you didn't know before posting this.
I still think what Epona's been saying for the past few days was bull.
it doesn't take more than a bit of thought to reach the conclusion that doc is probably one of the most important roles in this set - and the fact that she believes that there's potentially a cop makes it more odd. Cop has one report today, and a doc can go on them tmrw, (assuming that there's a doc). Take it from Epona's pov, where she believes mafia has found cop (for ace to be mafia, and for me to be mafia.) why not.... just ask cop to claim?
It doesn't seem like it was a genuine concern, more like a justification for a sr she was abt to make.
What was the motivation of that line?
it doesn't take more than a bit of thought to reach the conclusion that doc is probably one of the most important roles in this set - and the fact that she believes that there's potentially a cop makes it more odd. Cop has one report today, and a doc can go on them tmrw, (assuming that there's a doc). Take it from Epona's pov, where she believes mafia has found cop (for ace to be mafia, and for me to be mafia.) why not.... just ask cop to claim?
It doesn't seem like it was a genuine concern, more like a justification for a sr she was abt to make.
What was the motivation of that line?
I'm ngl, it doesn't say rolecop in the first page of the thread. I was using that as reference for everything. I don't think this one's on me, it was only mentionoed by volt when I remembered it was in signups.
if you look at my earlier posts you'll notice I didn't mention rolecop at all.
Not to mention, this setup's ALREADY imbalanced because there are clues given constantly, rather than giving the reasons why doc can't be a thing, what if mafia has multiple blackmailers, and having multiple docs is a weird form of recompense given to town for the fact that this setup has a mafia-bias due to the fact that it's expiremental?
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
if there is a role cop, would this strat save as much time as if the real doctor just protected themselves?
also i am not sure if a player of your caliber would just forget abt the potential role cop
Explained in the post above. It wasn't in the role explanation thread so I didn't think it existed. They have regular cop so it didn't make sense to me that there would be a missing pr role in it.
Cop - Night action. Investigated a person to determine their alignment (or role)
I mean there was this but three times this game I have asked for an explanation on how a role worked? do you think I made that up to pretend I forgot about rolecop? that's a stretch.
I mean there was this but three times this game I have asked for an explanation on how a role worked? do you think I made that up to pretend I forgot about rolecop? that's a stretch.
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