Is buying turnips on other people's islands for higher considered cheating?

[JustAWeavile]

I don't even know where to began. Your statement couldn't be anymore wrong. Cheating in a non-competitive game is more damaging than a competitive game. Competitive game are monitor and affects only those in competition and often have someone assign to moderate said competition.

There is no moderator in a non-competitive game. Duper for example have destroy the online economy probably for forever and that affect everyone.

Stop with this non-competitive talk. If it non-competitive, why are people fighting in auction for their dreamy, paying microtransaction on ebay for NMT? The spirit of the game has been crush.

Non-competitive...yeah not happening bud

Wow could you be any more condescending and rude it IS non-competitive. The animals ARE just pixels. On every thread I see you you're constantly being rude to others and being condescending because they play a different way than you do. Stop gatekeeping. Most of the community has been rolling their eyes at you and that's coming from an OG crosser that's been playing since 04

 

[Mairen]

Since getting more established in the game, I have a small group of 5 friends that I play together with. We'll share turnip prices amongst each other and if someone has a good rate, we'll sell in their town.

I chose not to search for better prices outside of that circle because it kind of takes the fun of the gamble away. Someone on this website for example is 'always' going to have a price above 500 at some point, so if I used the whole of the web, I know I could find a super high price every time and it just wouldn't be fun? Maybe I'm strange for thinking that, but the whole risk aspect adds some excitement to it all.

 

[thelonewanderer]

Oh no, I can't even understand what your trying to get at here, please be more informed when you post!

I tend to post out of the box stuff, so that why it hard for other to comprehend at time. I just assume people can put two and two together and figure out the equation to the puzzle.

I apologize otherwise

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Wow could you be any more condescending and rude it IS non-competitive. The animals ARE just pixels. On every thread I see you you're constantly being rude to others and being condescending because they play a different way than you do. Stop gatekeeping. Most of the community has been rolling their eyes at you and that's coming from an OG crosser that's been playing since 04

Well I'm also an Animal Crossing veteran so I don't know what 04 has to do with anything?

 

[JKDOS]

YOU CANNOT CHEAT IN A NON-COMPETITIVE GAME BASED ON PERSONAL CUSTOMIZATION

That's actually wrong. Cheating has nothing to do with competition. The exact definition is

"Act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination."

There is no mention of involvement of competition or second party, though cheating in a competition, or cheating someone are examples of cheating.

I'm not discussing Turnips or TT here, but rather what is cheating. You want to TT or sell turnips, go for it.


Also, since this game has a player driven economy, cheating or exploiting can affect everyone playing. Look at the NMT nonsense going around.

 

[thelonewanderer]

Since getting more established in the game, I have a small group of 5 friends that I play together with. We'll share turnip prices amongst each other and if someone has a good rate, we'll sell in their town.

I chose not to search for better prices outside of that circle because it kind of takes the fun of the gamble away. Someone on this website for example is 'always' going to have a price above 500 at some point, so if I used the whole of the web, I know I could find a super high price every time and it just wouldn't be fun? Maybe I'm strange for thinking that, but the whole risk aspect adds some excitement to it all.

There is no risk when using the online stalk market. Turnip isn't even a gamble at that point. I rather dupe than play the online stalk market because it literally the exact same thing. Playing with a group of buddies is probably what Nintendo intended in the first place.

I mean non-TTers say they want the game to be slow but using the online turnip market and making money quick is literally the opposite of "slow".

I follow the rule of Animal Crossing but when it come to the online stalk market, I question Nintendo philosophy. Its probably all about money for Nintendo so perhaps we should all TT and dupe and everything cause they can't even follow their own principle!

Though they did nerf interest rate from 99,999 to 9,999 (from what I read) so if that doesn't say they are against TTers, I don't know what other evidence I can use. Ultimately hurt us the most so it show Nintendo has no idea what they are even doing anymore.

 

[Krissi2197]

If Nintendo is against people going to other towns to sell turnips they can easily make it like everything else (ordering from catalog, placing/moving items, donating to the museum, etc) and make it so you cant sell Turnips somewhere else or while your gates are open.

Can we stop saying Nintendo is against time traveling? Because trust me they would patch out time traveling completely if they were 100% against it like people are claiming.

 

[UglyMonsterFace]

The only reason I resorted to selling turnips online is because I was no longer enjoying the part of the game where I had to make a tarantula island and grind tarantulas. It was bearable at first but the water bugs came and making money was honestly no fun, to the point where I was dreading the time of day that I usually would do it. I sold my turnips online so I wouldn't have to grind those darn things ever again. My friend basically said it's cheating and said he wouldn't play with me and said people who did that ruin his game and make him mad. What's the point of wanting people to not enjoy the game their way? Just cuz I did that does not mean I didn't work hard to create my island. I think people should stop being so judgmental about how people enjoy this game. I'd rather someone time travel and keep enjoying this game than put it down forever because it's too slow for them. Same goes with any play style. Just cuz it doesn't mirror mine doesn't make it wrong. At the end of the day, it is just a game and it's the person behind the screen's happiness that matters more to me. I would never ever make someone feel bad for the way they play.

 

[Sudsofsplash]

Also, since this game has a player driven economy, cheating or exploiting can affect everyone playing. Look at the NMT nonsense going around.

I don't remember anything like this happening in New Leaf (Maybe it was because I started playing later New Leaf than most) I got free things and villagers for cheap all the time (I got Coco in New Leaf for nearly nothing!) But New Horizons...I don't want to say community but the trading community seems nearly toxic with the driving up bids for a certain cat (Which I had gotten in my Campsite and while the high prices tempted me to sell him, I did just give him away to a friend)

I still don't quite get how people get like 300 NMT, I TT a lot and I don't have enough miles for that much! But I'm kind of off topic a bit LOL

 

[JKDOS]

Though they did nerf interest rate from 99,999 to 9,999 (from what I read) so if that doesn't say they are against TTers, I don't know what other evidence I can use. Ultimately hurt us the most so it show Nintendo has no idea what they are even doing anymore.

Good grief, they want to take away a measly 90,000 bells from us that takes 30 days to earn, and requires us to already be filthy rich?

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I still don't quite get how people get like 300 NMT, I TT a lot and I don't have enough miles for that much! But I'm kind of off topic a bit LOL

300 NMT cost around $7-$10 on Ebay. The sellers have modified Switches, in which they just dump 300 NMTs in your town and restore from a backup of their save.

You could also charge other players 1-5 NMT per visit to your island for things like:

• Sahara
• Celeste
• Turnips
• Villagers crafting
• Shooting Stars
• Villager trades

I am against NMT trades of all forms, but those are ways that exist :/

 

[thelonewanderer]

Good grief, they want to take away a measly 90,000 bells from us that takes 30 days to earn, and requires us to already be filthy rich?

Hey there I made like 400 bells last month, this interest cut would only net me 40 measly bells! You can't even buy anything with 40 bells?

Come to think of it this actually hurt TTers more than non-tters even though it affect us, TTers will have to put in 10X more effort than before the patch. I'm okay with this!

 

[JKDOS]

Come to think of it this actually hurt TTers more than non-tters even though it affect us, TTers will have to put in 10X more effort than before the patch. I'm okay with this!

That is true. I make so much in 30 days, I won't miss the 90k, but it's sad to know that I could potentially be getting it prepatch.

 

[Krissi2197]

Hey there I made like 400 bells last month, this interest cut would only net me 40 measly bells! You can't even buy anything with 40 bells?

Come to think of it this actually hurt TTers more than non-tters even though it affect us, TTers will have to put in 10X more effort than before the patch. I'm okay with this!

If someone is going to TT to get a ton of interest they're going to do it. Doesnt matter if they time travel 1 year or 100 years. Theyll do as much TTing as they want to get the amount of bells they need.

400 bells is a sea bass for god sake. I didnt even notice interest last month and I had over 10mil bells in the bank!

 

[thelonewanderer]

That is true. I make so much in 30 days, I won't miss the 90k, but it's sad to know that I could potentially be getting it prepatch.

Come to think of it, since I'm always broke and never have enough in my saving. Does having it last minute before the month end give you that interest or do you have to have interest there for however many days like a real bank does?

But yeah if I end up ever making decent bells from Beatles in the summer, that 90K extra won't be there, that kind of frustrating. But TTers tell me how they play don't affect anyone? I'm confuse by these two totally opposite result. Can you clarify for me? (I know you don't TT) That was a figurative question.

So that 90K every month loss...as if building cost wasn't high enough...for non-tters. I like getting screw over. I mean who doesn't?

 

[Krissi2197]

Come to think of it, since I'm always broke and never have enough in my saving. Does having it last minute before the month end give you that interest or do you have to have interest there for however many days like a real bank does?

But yeah if I end up ever making decent bells from Beatles in the summer, that 90K extra won't be there, that kind of frustrating. But TTers tell me how they play don't affect anyone? I'm confuse by these two totally opposite result. Can you clarify for me? (I know you don't TT) That was a figurative question.

So that 90K every month loss...as if building cost wasn't high enough...for non-tters. I like getting screw over. I mean who doesn't?

I can make 90k in a single night from fishing.

90k is literally not that big of a deal. Nobody is ruining anything for us.

 

[moonchu]

i think some of yall are getting definitions from different dictionaries. we can all have opinions, and that doesn't warrant attacking or telling others that they aren't allowed an opinion merely because theirs differs from yours. honestly, this mentality is so wack that i don't even want to bother posting in case i offend someone with my opinion.

but here i am.
also would like to preface this with - i TT'd in my second copy of new leaf, so i'm not against it.

nintendo encourages people to play together, so i don't think that this is "cheating." and you can absolutely "cheat" in a noncompetitive game lol it's your game though, do whatever you want with it. i don't care how you play, it's not my island. let's not kid ourselves though - it seems fairly obvious to me that nintendo frowns upon time traveling. especially with this particular update in regards to changing turnip prices and the bell interest decrease. anyways, if you're time traveling to get a better price and buy more turnips and stuff like that, you are "cheating the system" because the developers have their idea of how they'd like people to play. again, doesn't make TTing wrong or w/e! doesn't affect me.

 

[Sudsofsplash]

If someone is going to TT to get a ton of interest they're going to do it. Doesnt matter if they time travel 1 year or 100 years. Theyll do as much TTing as they want to get the amount of bells they need.

400 bells is a sea bass for god sake. I didnt even notice interest last month and I had over 10mil bells in the bank!

I had done TTing day by day to find a certain fox and I already got interest from the Bank of 9,999 and I was just like...I only went a week lol
Honestly if Time Travellers really want good quick money they'd just do turnips lol

 

[JKDOS]

Come to think of it, since I'm always broke and never have enough in my saving. Does having it last minute before the month end give you that interest or do you have to have interest there for however many days like a real bank does?

I believe it's compounded on the balance at month start , rather than the daily average of the previous month.

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400 bells is a sea bass for god sake

TBF, A sea bass is actually about 650 bells.

 

[Delphine]

I feel like people are asking more if things are "considered cheating" and not if they are "cheating". Same with time travel.
We don't really ask directly if it's cheating because deep down, well, you can usually tell whether you're cheating or not when playing a game! So I'm quite sad to see that we (myself including) care more about what other people (be them friends or total strangers) might be thinking about us & how we play. That's all I have to say about the title of the thread!

Now for the subject itself, I don't think it's widely considered cheating to do so. It's not controversial (what a strong word) like time traveling is. And besides even if it was widely considered cheating, do so anyways if you're having fun doing it & it makes you happy & enjoy the game more!

 

[Chicken Tender]

why is everything considered cheating in this game now? If that’s how you want to play then just do it lol

 

[thelonewanderer]

If someone is going to TT to get a ton of interest they're going to do it. Doesnt matter if they time travel 1 year or 100 years. Theyll do as much TTing as they want to get the amount of bells they need.

400 bells is a sea bass for god sake. I didnt even notice interest last month and I had over 10mil bells in the bank!

Well that one less sea bass for dinner.

I can make 90k in a single night from fishing.

90k is literally not that big of a deal. Nobody is ruining anything for us.

Don't count your chicken before it hatch (hopefully this saying is more correct).

This is only the start to combat TT, it will only get worst. Okay potentially get worst since I feel I have to be extremely accurate with my word to not offend people apparently.

90K from fishing? By yourself or with CJ? Hmm... does night fishing give better fishes?

It make sense if you get coelacanth, oarfish, tuna, marlin but fishing is an expensive hobby, requires too many baits for the money making fishes.

Post automatically merged: Apr 23, 2020

i think some of yall are getting definitions from different dictionaries. we can all have opinions, and that doesn't warrant attacking or telling others that they aren't allowed an opinion merely because theirs differs from yours. honestly, this mentality is so wack that i don't even want to bother posting in case i offend someone with my opinion.

but here i am.
also would like to preface this with - i TT'd in my second copy of new leaf, so i'm not against it.

nintendo encourages people to play together, so i don't think that this is "cheating." and you can absolutely "cheat" in a noncompetitive game lol it's your game though, do whatever you want with it. i don't care how you play, it's not my island. let's not kid ourselves though - it seems fairly obvious to me that nintendo frowns upon time traveling. especially with this particular update in regards to changing turnip prices and the bell interest decrease. anyways, if you're time traveling to get a better price and buy more turnips and stuff like that, you are "cheating the system." like yeah, it's your game, but the developers have their idea of how they'd like people to play. again, doesn't make TTing wrong or w/e.

I don't know why but your post made me laugh a bit. Also what turnip price change? I only heard of interest rate change.