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[-Aaron]

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Yeah, only if they were Nintendo. XD Nintendo products are more than just video game systems to me. Yes, I play games on them, but I also collect them. They're like my babies. =3 Although I love Apple products, I don't feel the need to buy all of them, mostly because their new products are just upgraded versions of their old products. Nintendo's not like that. They don't make a console and then six months later make a new model that has more memory or whatever. Yes, they sometimes make new versions of their systems, mostly handhelds, but not nearly as much as Apple does, and when they do, it's always a significant improvement upon the older model, not just a small upgrade.

Let's be honest here.. Nintendo and Apple are just as bad as each other when it comes to small, unneeded upgrades.. Or upgrades that should have been on the first gen.

Uh...no, not really. Nintendo rarely makes upgrades to their products. They do it more often with handhelds than consoles, but it's not like it's once a year like Apple. And unlike Apple's new models, which are virtually the exact same product, but with higher specifications, Nintendo's upgraded models have a different design and everything. Take the DSi and DSi XL, for example. Though they both run the exact same software, each is a completely different experience. The DSi XL's massive screens is really a big difference. It's a completely different experience than the original DSi. Once you go XL, you don't go back, lol.

But.. they're not just higher specifications.

Let's take the new iPhone upgrades for example, it got a new case, a camera, 3G, MMS. That's not to mention the general specification improvements.

The DSi XL is worse, it got a bigger screen and a few specification improvements XD

Which I might add, only 2 games use, not even to it's full capability.

 

[Tyeforce]

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Yeah, only if they were Nintendo. XD Nintendo products are more than just video game systems to me. Yes, I play games on them, but I also collect them. They're like my babies. =3 Although I love Apple products, I don't feel the need to buy all of them, mostly because their new products are just upgraded versions of their old products. Nintendo's not like that. They don't make a console and then six months later make a new model that has more memory or whatever. Yes, they sometimes make new versions of their systems, mostly handhelds, but not nearly as much as Apple does, and when they do, it's always a significant improvement upon the older model, not just a small upgrade.

Let's be honest here.. Nintendo and Apple are just as bad as each other when it comes to small, unneeded upgrades.. Or upgrades that should have been on the first gen.

Uh...no, not really. Nintendo rarely makes upgrades to their products. They do it more often with handhelds than consoles, but it's not like it's once a year like Apple. And unlike Apple's new models, which are virtually the exact same product, but with higher specifications, Nintendo's upgraded models have a different design and everything. Take the DSi and DSi XL, for example. Though they both run the exact same software, each is a completely different experience. The DSi XL's massive screens is really a big difference. It's a completely different experience than the original DSi. Once you go XL, you don't go back, lol.

But.. they're not just higher specifications.

Let's take the new iPhone upgrades for example, it got a new case, a camera, 3G, MMS. That's not to mention the general specification improvements.

The DSi XL is worse, it got a bigger screen and a few specification improvements XD

If you compare a launch iPhone to an iPhone 3GS, yes, the 3GS is greatly improved, but the experience isn't very different at all. They have the same design, same size, same apps... It's just not a very drastic change. Now, the DSi XL may function exactly the same as the original DSi, but the hardware itself is so drastically different that it feels like you're playing a completely different system. The same can't be said for the different iPhone models. An iPhone feels like an iPhone feels like an iPhone. But every new Nintendo handheld feels completely different. They may play the same games, but it's a different experience.

 

[-Aaron]

I drink water from a different water bottle. It's still water, but it was a different experience.

 

[Tyeforce]

I drink water from a different water bottle. It's still water, but it was a different experience.

Haha. No.

You can't compare drinking water to playing games. >_>

 

[-Aaron]

I drink water from a different water bottle. It's still water, but it was a different experience.

Haha. No.

You can't compare drinking water to playing games. >_>

How so? It seems logical to me.

 

[OJ.]

I drink water from a different water bottle. It's still water, but it was a different experience.

Haha. No.

You can't compare drinking water to playing games. >_>

You can live without playing games.

 

[Tyeforce]

I drink water from a different water bottle. It's still water, but it was a different experience.

Haha. No.

You can't compare drinking water to playing games. >_>

How so? It seems logical to me.

Drinking water isn't a very immersive experience. It doesn't matter what container you drink it from, you're still getting the same water. Obviously, the same can be said about games, but the hardware on which you play games matters much more than does the contain from which you drink water.

 

[Tyeforce]

I drink water from a different water bottle. It's still water, but it was a different experience.

Haha. No.

You can't compare drinking water to playing games. >_>

You can live without playing games.

What does that have to do with anything?

 

[David]

umm whats going on in here?

 

[VantagE]

Okay, for those who keep saying that its like $999, you can shut up... I am going to list off the prices...

First off the WiFi only ones:
16GB - $499.00
32GB - $599.00
64GB - $699.00

Now the WiFi + 3G:
16GB - $629.00
32GB - $729.00
64GB - $829.00

THERE! Yes the 64GB w/ WiFi +3G almost hit that, but you don't really have to get the ones with the 3G... The ones with just WiFi are not that badly prices, actually they are cheaper then I thought they would be...

 

[-Aaron]

I drink water from a different water bottle. It's still water, but it was a different experience.

Haha. No.

You can't compare drinking water to playing games. >_>

How so? It seems logical to me.

Drinking water isn't a very immersive experience. It doesn't matter what container you drink it from, you're still getting the same water. Obviously, the same can be said about games, but the hardware on which you play games matters much more than does the contain from which you drink water.

Then you're implying that things in real life are not as immersive as a video game. Drinking radioactive water in Fallout 3? Yeah, its way more immersive than drinking water in real life. Are you also telling me that if I drink water from a dirty bottle I will have the same experience drinking it from a clean one?

 

[Tyeforce]

I drink water from a different water bottle. It's still water, but it was a different experience.

Haha. No.

You can't compare drinking water to playing games. >_>

How so? It seems logical to me.

Drinking water isn't a very immersive experience. It doesn't matter what container you drink it from, you're still getting the same water. Obviously, the same can be said about games, but the hardware on which you play games matters much more than does the contain from which you drink water.

Then you're implying that things in real life are not as immersive as a video game. Drinking radioactive water in Fallout 3? Yeah, its way more immersive than drinking water in real life. Are you also telling me that if I drink water from a dirty bottle I will have the same experience drinking it from a clean one?

I wasn't comparing drinking water in real life to drinking water in a video. I was comparing to playing a video game in whole, and you know that. You're just trying to find ways to prove me wrong, even though you know that's not what I meant. >_> Yes, drinking water may be more important to your body than playing a video game in the big picture, but drinking a bottle of water isn't something you spend a lot of time doing like you would with a game, nor do you get entertainment, satisfaction, excitement, or any other feelings you get from playing games from it. You just drink the water and throw away the bottle, and it's all over. And if you want to be technical, you [i[would[/i] get the same experience from drinking water out of a dirty bottle as you would from a clean one, because dirt on the outside doesn't effect the water inside. The bottle is still identical, just a little dirty. You could compare it to games, but not in a sense like comparing the DSi to DSi XL. If you were to make a valid comparison with that example, it would be more like comparing a new, clean console to the same model of console, but older and dirtier, maybe with a few scratches. It's the same system, but one's more pretty than the other on the outside. That's the only difference. Not size, not features, none of that.

 

[David]

lol wow.

 

[-Aaron]

Technically, you did compare drinking water in real life to drinking water in a vidya. You said

Drinking water isn't a very immersive experience.

Implying that drinking water would not be immersive as playing a video game despite the fact it's real life.

"You're just trying to find ways to prove me wrong, even though you know that's not what I meant." Can't spell assuming without ass.

Talking about health is a tangent, you're out of your vector.

And no, I was talking about a dirty bottle from both the outside and in, you still think its the same experience?

 

[Rawburt]

Technically, you did compare drinking water in real life to drinking water in a vidya. You said

Drinking water isn't a very immersive experience.

Implying that drinking water would not be immersive as playing a video game despite the fact it's real life.

Talking about health is a tangent, you're out of your vector.

And no, I was talking about a dirty bottle from both the outside and in, you still think its the same experience?

Drinking water isn't realistic enough brah.

 

[David]

why the hell does drinking water from a clean or dirty bottle matter? whats the deal in here

 

[-Aaron]

why the hell does drinking water from a clean or dirty bottle matter? whats the deal in here

Read the past few pages.

 

[Tyeforce]

Technically, you did compare drinking water in real life to drinking water in a vidya. You said

Drinking water isn't a very immersive experience.

Implying that drinking water would not be immersive as playing a video game despite the fact it's real life.

Talking about health is a tangent, you're out of your vector.

And no, I was talking about a dirty bottle from both the outside and in, you still think its the same experience?

I said drinking water isn't very immersive, yes. I didn't say that drinking water in real life isn't as immersive as drinking water in a video game. That comparison is obvious, and you know it's not what I meant. I was comparing drinking water to playing a video game in a whole, not just one trivial element of a game.

And if you're saying that the water inside is dirty, then you'd be right. But what's the video game equivalent to compare to that? Certainly not something like the DSi to the DSi XL. It'd be more like comparing playing a game that runs perfectly on a mint condition system to playing the same game that may not work properly due to being run through the washing machine or something on an old, worn out system. That has no relevance to this discussion, so your point is invalid.

 

[Darkwind]

Bottom line: Its just a giant iphone with new apps.

That said, theres something about it that makes it better.
not the stupid book app. its just... awessssommmmeeee.

WATCH NETFLIX ON IT THEN TELL ME IT ISNT.


so whats all this about drinking water? the convo was tl;dr

 

[Rawburt]

I'm enjoying this water discussion, it's very philosophical.