How has your view of the LGBT community changed over time?

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My final comment about disagreeing with the 'straight lifestyle' was sarcastic. Also, people don't listen to us regardless of whether we keep our emotions 'in check', and seeing as this is a pretty emotional topic, seeing as it centres around our actual identities, I don't feel it is my job to remain neutral. People debate whether my sexuality is real. Has a straight person ever had their sexuality questioned or undermined? I don't think so. People tell me that my sexuality is 'just a phase'. Has a straight person ever been told that they are 'just experimenting' or that they'll 'come around soon'. I've been told I am disgusting, I've been told I'm going to hell, I've lost friends because they found out 'what I was'.

LGBT+ people are murdered every day for simply existing, and yet you are asking me to keep my argument neutral. When straight people stop committing hate crimes, murdering us, harassing us, sexualising us, undermining us... Then I can remain neutral. Until then, I will demand more representation, more LGBT+ leads, more advocacy and activism, more safe spaces, more inclusion.

I don't think you understand is constantly changing. As non straight sexuality acceptance becomes more prominent of a thing, slowly it will become more accepted. The reason it isn't yet is because the "sexual revolution" is just happening. Just like how people thought the idea of women voting was a silly idea, but now think it's obviously very reasonable and fair, LGBT will become more accepted over time. Get perspective.
 
i get what you mean but the reason to why cishets dont have to tell everyone theyre cishet is that that's the norm. you know the thing about coming out ?? and how people have been making fun of it?? and coming out as straight n crap? (which is really awful but whatever it's kinda unrelated) ppl think that ppl who arent cishet are making a big deal, but really it is the norm that forces us to come out.
now everyone is considered cishet until they tell everyone otherwise. if that wasn't the case being lgbtq+ wouldnt be such a big deal.

and ppl think that cishets dont talk about beign cishet all the time but believe me They Do. we're just so used to it .

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it's not called transexuality anymore
it's not a sexuality
ppl are uninformed

how is it called now then??
and yeah i'm not rly gonna look information about a thing i don't care at all
I like these threads bc I can post my questions and they'll be proly answered by ppl who know about the subject, lol7

by the way is cishet any sort of insult towards cis or something?? just curious
 
i mean, people who say "no homo" unironically and emphasize their cis-ness are like the laughing stock of the world, (for a good reason too, it's p dumb) whereas when members of the lgtb+ community do it waaay too much (not generalizing, only some of them have done it) it just seems obnoxious, exactly like when cishets do it? like the way you talk about it is fine :) but some people just go over the top to emphasize their sexuality in totally random situations. idk. i can see why some ppl behave like that (validation, etc.), doesn't mean they should do it all the time around people who have no interest in it at all/people they barely know.

guess what im saying is it's not more ""ok"" for one side to do it over the other. this thread is just about the lgbt+ community so that's probs why it was mentioned in the first place, and not cishets specifically.

again im not referring to activism. that's fine and it's rly good. it's just when every other word is im ______ is a bit tacky. correcting someone who misidentifies you? also fine. does that make sense? im having trouble explaining it bc I feel like im referring to extremists of the lgbt+ community but u aren't.

yeah i think i get what you mean

but like?? extremists??? where?? who??

i think a lot of ppl think ppl who arent extremists still overshare. like i have told ppl in my school to stop being transphobic a few times and they have gotten sooo defensive and angry and been all like "UGH no one cares about beign politically correct stop making a big deal out of it!!" when i've just been telling them to not say that trans ppl arent real or misgendering someone.

i get that ppl who end everything w "also btw im gay" when it's not related to the conversation are annoying. but honestly who tf does that? most ppl that are annoyed by ppl talking "too much" about lgbtq+ issues are just uncomfortable homophobes and transphobes lmao
 
how is it called now then??
and yeah i'm not rly gonna look information about a thing i don't care at all
I like these threads bc I can post my questions and they'll be proly answered by ppl who know about the subject, lol7

by the way is cishet any sort of insult towards cis or something?? just curious

transgender. or trans. ppl can self identify as transsexual but it's not really alright to call someone transsexual if you don't know if they're comfortable w being called that. for example, i would personally punch someone in the face if they called me transsexual.

crap im insulting all the cishets in the world rn sorry for discriminating u all ):
(no but seriously, cishet is often used by lgbtq+ ppl about annoying, transphobic, homophobic and uninformed cishets. it doesnt actually mean anything else than that someone is cis and hetero but yeah i dunno ppl think theyre being attacked by the down w the cis bus when ppl use it idk why)
 
yeah i think i get what you mean

but like?? extremists??? where?? who??

i think a lot of ppl think ppl who arent extremists still overshare. like i have told ppl in my school to stop being transphobic a few times and they have gotten sooo defensive and angry and been all like "UGH no one cares about beign politically correct stop making a big deal out of it!!" when i've just been telling them to not say that trans ppl arent real or misgendering someone.

i get that ppl who end everything w "also btw im gay" when it's not related to the conversation are annoying. but honestly who tf does that? most ppl that are annoyed by ppl talking "too much" about lgbtq+ issues are just uncomfortable homophobes and transphobes lmao

Tbh I used to know a lot of gay boys (who are still the same way, I just cut off contact with them) who would basically only talk about being gay, like with one of them I'd be like "Hey guys I made cookies" and he'd somehow find a way to turn it into him being gay

It's like dude me too but chill they're just cookies
 
I don't think you understand is constantly changing. As non straight sexuality acceptance becomes more prominent of a thing, slowly it will become more accepted. The reason it isn't yet is because the "sexual revolution" is just happening. Just like how people thought the idea of women voting was a silly idea, but now think it's obviously very reasonable and fair, LGBT will become more accepted over time. Get perspective.

but rn is not that time. lgbtq+ ppl are still getting murdered and bullied into suicide. we're still getting discriminated a *** ton.

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Tbh I used to know a lot of gay boys (who are still the same way, I just cut off contact with them) who would basically only talk about being gay, like with one of them I'd be like "Hey guys I made cookies" and he'd somehow find a way to turn it into him being gay

It's like dude me too but chill they're just cookies

that sounds annoying but honestly ....... there are straight ppl who only talk about love and ppl of another gender and it's just like... chill.. ., but ppl don't connect it to them being straight ... idk

but those kind of ppl liek the cookie guy u knew arent rly a majority ...
 
transgender. or trans. ppl can self identify as transsexual but it's not really alright to call someone transsexual if you don't know if they're comfortable w being called that. for example, i would personally punch someone in the face if they called me transsexual.

crap im insulting all the cishets in the world rn sorry for discriminating u all ):
(no but seriously, cishet is often used by lgbtq+ ppl about annoying, transphobic, homophobic and uninformed cishets. it doesnt actually mean anything else than that someone is cis and hetero but yeah i dunno ppl think theyre being attacked by the down w the cis bus when ppl use it idk why)

But isn't transsexuality when someone has actually undegonensex change surgery?

Like when did transsexual = transgender
 
Oh geez .... I hope this thread lasts lol

when I was younger and growing up, I literally had no clue LGBT or any of that existed. my parents are helicopter parents so it's really hard for anything to come into my life or for me to know about stuff without their approval, and for the longest time both of my parents were homophobic/transphobic/phobic of LGBT in general. in fact.... almost everyone where I live are this way (I live in the middle of the country, i.e. nowhere so it's to be expected since 99% of the people here are rednecks)
but, when I was like 13, I met this kid named Stephen, but he identified with the name Jack, so I was like "WOAH you can identify with whatever name you want??? great, I can get rid of my name and have a cooler one" so I took on a new name for a short while, and then at Stephan's birthday he basically acted like he had a crush on me?? I didn't really think much of it other than he wanted to be my friend, but at that time I asked my parents and .... boom, I learned about LGBT. they finally explained it and I was like...... oh my ****ing god he's hitting on me. a gay guy is ****ing hitting on me.... and ever since then I questioned my sexuality, since my whole childhood, I was only interested in the cute girls when I'd go to the park and play with friend (like when I was 6 or 7 years old?) and if a gay kid (I was 13 or 14 at that time, Stephan was about the same age) had a crush on me, does that make me gay?? so around that time I gave up the notion of having a girlfriend since I recently before then had drama and was in like 3 relationships at once (it's complicated lol) so..... like literally my whole life was turned upside down because it's like completely new to me and I didn't view myself as gay (of course it might be from being raised in a non-LGBT house with a non-LGBT family). my parents do have underlying reasons why they're phobic, and I understand that, but they're not even accepting of.... anything in the spectrum. like, just recently, I was thinking about how when I was in my relationships with girls, I never really felt anything and I just sorta went along.. and I never really felt or understood love or affection, I asked my parents if I might be ace.

I was almost grounded for thinking about possibly being 'dew-worm-sexual' not kidding, so I spent an hour explain what being an ace meant (because of course my parents know almost nothing about LGBT, but having friends who are part of it, I try to keep up with it otl) and in the end they said all aces are bi..... uh, hello, I said I might be a straight ace? so in the end I basically just had to keep my mouth shut and say 'ok I'm straight nvm' and ever since then I wonder if I'm actually possibly a straight ace or maybe if I'm straight? and ever since the Stephan incident I wondered if I was gay... then bi... and now ace. so for me, LGBT is basically associated with bad things which is why sometimes I'll say I'm homophobic/transphobic. in reality I have nothing against LGBT and I lowkey support it (when my parents aren't around lmao) but I'm more or less homophobic against myself because, I guess I just don't want to be gay/bi/trans? I mean I know I'm not now but I was and it still lingers with me so

and then the special snowflake tumblr LGBT people who identify as 'star/starself' also left a bad taste in my mouth; in the end I kinda support it, but because of questioning my identity and because of how I was raised, I also sorta hate it. I'm just conflicted.
 
But again that's some individuals. Doesn't mean all cis people do that. As far as I'm aware people get annoyed at pronouns only when someone excepts everyone to know them from the get-go.

have u ever read any of the threads like this before because . .. .. . ppl are definitely upset about pronouns... and a ton of cis ppl do that.. .not all of them but A Lot
 
that sounds annoying but honestly ....... there are straight ppl who only talk about love and ppl of another gender and it's just like... chill.. ., but ppl don't connect it to them being straight ... idk

but those kind of ppl liek the cookie guy u knew arent rly a majority ...

Yeah ik the Straights? are just as annoying with it I'mjust saying those people definitely exist on all sides

But isn't transsexuality when someone has actually undegonensex change surgery?

Like when did transsexual = transgender

That's what I thought but even so it'd still be rude to call every trans person "transsexual" when whether or not they have or want to have surgery is a very personal matter and none of anyone's business
 
But len why wouldn't being a cis be the norm? That's how we biologically breed and majority of us are born that way. I'm sorry to break this to you but LGBT people are a minority.
 
Oh geez .... I hope this thread lasts lol

when I was younger and growing up, I literally had no clue LGBT or any of that existed. my parents are helicopter parents so it's really hard for anything to come into my life or for me to know about stuff without their approval, and for the longest time both of my parents were homophobic/transphobic/phobic of LGBT in general. in fact.... almost everyone where I live are this way (I live in the middle of the country, i.e. nowhere so it's to be expected since 99% of the people here are rednecks)
but, when I was like 13, I met this kid named Stephen, but he identified with the name Jack, so I was like "WOAH you can identify with whatever name you want??? great, I can get rid of my name and have a cooler one" so I took on a new name for a short while, and then at Stephan's birthday he basically acted like he had a crush on me?? I didn't really think much of it other than he wanted to be my friend, but at that time I asked my parents and .... boom, I learned about LGBT. they finally explained it and I was like...... oh my ****ing god he's hitting on me. a gay guy is ****ing hitting on me.... and ever since then I questioned my sexuality, since my whole childhood, I was only interested in the cute girls when I'd go to the park and play with friend (like when I was 6 or 7 years old?) and if a gay kid (I was 13 or 14 at that time, Stephan was about the same age) had a crush on me, does that make me gay?? so around that time I gave up the notion of having a girlfriend since I recently before then had drama and was in like 3 relationships at once (it's complicated lol) so..... like literally my whole life was turned upside down because it's like completely new to me and I didn't view myself as gay (of course it might be from being raised in a non-LGBT house with a non-LGBT family). my parents do have underlying reasons why they're phobic, and I understand that, but they're not even accepting of.... anything in the spectrum. like, just recently, I was thinking about how when I was in my relationships with girls, I never really felt anything and I just sorta went along.. and I never really felt or understood love or affection, I asked my parents if I might be ace.

I was almost grounded for thinking about possibly being 'dew-worm-sexual' not kidding, so I spent an hour explain what being an ace meant (because of course my parents know almost nothing about LGBT, but having friends who are part of it, I try to keep up with it otl) and in the end they said all aces are bi..... uh, hello, I said I might be a straight ace? so in the end I basically just had to keep my mouth shut and say 'ok I'm straight nvm' and ever since then I wonder if I'm actually possibly a straight ace or maybe if I'm straight? and ever since the Stephan incident I wondered if I was gay... then bi... and now ace. so for me, LGBT is basically associated with bad things which is why sometimes I'll say I'm homophobic/transphobic. in reality I have nothing against LGBT and I lowkey support it (when my parents aren't around lmao) but I'm more or less homophobic against myself because, I guess I just don't want to be gay/bi/trans? I mean I know I'm not now but I was and it still lingers with me so

and then the special snowflake tumblr LGBT people who identify as 'star/starself' also left a bad taste in my mouth; in the end I kinda support it, but because of questioning my identity and because of how I was raised, I also sorta hate it. I'm just conflicted.

Can you please tl;dr this
 
in my country transsexual is a diagnosis you can get from a doctor. in a lot of other countries it has been changed to "gender dysphoria". bc transsexual has been considered an illness and also has been a slur ppl dont really like it a lot. also it is kinda gross bc ppl think it means that someone has done "the surgery" when in reality no "the surgery" exists, to physically transition you need hrt and more than one surgery. and also other things if you wnt that but Yeah. no transsexual is not a good word to use pls do not use it

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Can you please tl;dr this

basically

they grew up in a homophobic family and didnt know what lgbtq+ was until they were 13 when a gay guy had a crush on them. then they questioned their sexuality, explained asexuality to their parents and then said "im straight nvm" but in their heart they're still unsure.
but they don't like star/starself bc tumblr is 4 Special Snowflakes
 
But len why wouldn't being a cis be the norm? That's how we biologically breed and majority of us are born that way. I'm sorry to break this to you but LGBT people are a minority.

im not saying it is weird that it is the norm lmao. but being lgbtq+ shouldnt be seen as abnormal. everyone should just understand that they cant know someone elses sexuality and gender identity w/o them telling them
 
basically

they grew up in a homophobic family and didnt know what lgbtq+ was until they were 13 when a gay guy had a crush on them. then they questioned their sexuality, explained asexuality to their parents and then said "im straight nvm" but in their heart they're still unsure.
but they don't like star/starself bc tumblr is 4 Special Snowflakes

thank you haha that pretty much sums it up, the whole topic of LGBT makes me uncomfortable about myself and I associate it with bad memories/discomfort so I went on a bit of a rant, sorry

but I guess I lowkey support LGBT.
 
basically

they grew up in a homophobic family and didnt know what lgbtq+ was until they were 13 when a gay guy had a crush on them. then they questioned their sexuality, explained asexuality to their parents and then said "im straight nvm" but in their heart they're still unsure.
but they don't like star/starself bc tumblr is 4 Special Snowflakes
Thx, I skimmed through it and saw the star/starself bit and assumed I wouldn't be interested

Dude, it's three whole paragraphs. Doesn't take long to read.
Except it does for some people and seeing that many words can be overwhelming for people with certain conditions so kindly buzz off and stop talking to me
 
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