How has your view of the LGBT community changed over time?

[Reindeer]

cishets who get uncomfy bc someone isnt pretending to be cishet all the time :^)

You haven't been paying attention. I don't care if someone isn't cisgendered or not heterosexual or both. What annoys me is them constantly mentioning it. It's not their sexuality or gender identity, it's the way they act about it.
In the same sense, I knew a guy once that mentioned he played bass guitar at every chance he got. He pissed me off in the same way. There's seriously nothing about it that makes you special.

 

[piichinu]

not saying this in a rude way (dunno how to word it better) but hmm len could this be upsetting to you because you mention you're trans a lot? like i hope ur not taking it as a personal attack or anything

 

[Cudon]

cishets who get uncomfy bc someone isnt pretending to be cishet all the time :^)

You're generalizing again you know.

Anyway, the point ppl were making is that while sexuality is a part of us it's not our whole personality. Making it seem like it's 90% of your personality is just kinda sad imo cuz you're shallowing yourself down to one thing and often making yourself a stereotype.

Also 99% of the people in this thread are 100% LBGT positive so what are you getting at?? This isn't a LGBT hate thread or anything. People just criticize bad things about it, which is smth people do about everything so..

 

[visibleghost]

nobody is uncomfortable? it's just annoying when people talk about their sexuality constantly 24/7. applies to cishets too.

but it's way more ok for cishets to talk about being cishet than ti is for lgbtq+ ppl to talk about being lgbtq+. like everything can be cishet. but if something is lgbtq+ it's "forced" or ppl think that "the gays are taking over !!!"

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You're generalizing again you know.

Anyway, the point ppl were making is that while sexuality is a part of us it's not our whole personality. Making it seem like it's 90% of your personality is just kinda sad imo cuz you're shallowing yourself down to one thing and often making yourself a stereotype.

Also 99% of the people in this thread are 100% LBGT positive so what are you getting at?? This isn't a LGBT hate thread or anything. People just criticize bad things about it, which is smth people do about everything so..

ppl think theyre lgbtq+ positive but they get upset about ppl being too lgbtq+
lmao

 

[Gregriii]

Yasss cisphobia!!

Anyway, I do accept the gay community, mostly because I dont care about what they do in bed

The problem is that people make it seem like a big deal and like, it's only a sexual orientation, no need to worry about, lol.

Yeaaaah gays have suffered ages of discrimination and all but come on people I think it's time to just leave them do what they want, its nothing you should care :/

I do dislike ppl who make being homosexual a super big thing, when it really isnt

 

[visibleghost]

not saying this in a rude way (dunno how to word it better) but hmm len could this be upsetting to you because you mention you're trans a lot? like i hope ur not taking it as a personal attack or anything

yah u r right lmao

but really it's not lgbtq+ ppl who make it int oa big deal in the first place.

 

[Cudon]

ppl think theyre lgbtq+ positive but they get upset about ppl being too lgbtq+
lmao

But nobodys upset? I don't get it. Honestly it sounds like you're the one being a bit upset (?)

Also anyone talking about anything too much is annoying to everyone. Whether it's being cis, gay, liking pink, collecting bugs or playing piano.

 

[visibleghost]

and ik that a lot of ppl are like "Um i love trans ppl?" but when someone asks them to use any other pronoun than he/him or she/her they are like "UGH They're taking it to far!!! just be male or female !!! tumblr people -.- "

like ppl are ok w others being "different" to a certain degree. then they get uncomfortable and homophobic and transphobic.

 

[Gregriii]

yah u r right lmao

but really it's not lgbtq+ ppl who make it int oa big deal in the first place.

Gay pride??

 

[Cudon]

and ik that a lot of ppl are like "Um i love trans ppl?" but when someone asks them to use any other pronoun than he/him or she/her they are like "UGH They're taking it to far!!! just be male or female !!! tumblr people -.- "

like ppl are ok w others being "different" to a certain degree. then they get uncomfortable and homophobic and transphobic.

But again that's some individuals. Doesn't mean all cis people do that. As far as I'm aware people get annoyed at pronouns only when someone excepts everyone to know them from the get-go.

 

[Celestefey]

but it's way more ok for cishets to talk about being cishet than ti is for lgbtq+ ppl to talk about being lgbtq+. like everything can be cishet. but if something is lgbtq+ it's "forced" or ppl think that "the gays are taking over !!!"

Here's what equality would be.

Someone who is heterosexual is treated the same as someone who is homosexual/bisexual/asexual/etc.

I honestly don't think people always make such a big deal about being heterosexual though? Like, people don't go around shouting "I'm straight!" because it's considered to be the "norm" (kinda stupid but whatever I guess). So if someone says "I'm gay", that's great, but it's almost like, if you're constantly shouting out about how you're gay or whatever, you're kind of expecting some sorta special treatment (or rather implying it, you may not actually want that, but that's how it comes across). Surely the ideal would be: someone is gay and that's okay because people are accepting of it so we don't need to make a big deal about other peoples sexualities because it's NORMAL. Constantly shouting about how you're gay or whatever kind of makes it seem like it's something abnormal and strange. I don't like shouting about how I'm bisexual because I don't want people to start treating me as if I'm different because of it? Our sexualities are just a part of who we are, it doesn't change our identities or personalities which are considerably more important, so in an ideal world people should just accept someone no matter who they're sexually attracted to. Sorry, I can't express my point eloquently so some things haven't come out the way I wanted to but I hope you get my gist.

 

[visibleghost]

But nobodys upset? I don't get it. Honestly it sounds like you're the one being a bit upset (?)

Also anyone talking about anything too much is annoying to everyone. Whether it's being cis, gay, liking pink, collecting bugs or playing piano.

but ok so here's the thing
talking too much about it for a trans person is saying it a few times. like correcting someone when they misgender them, speaking about it in discussions relating to gender etc.
talking too much about it for a cis person would be saying "hey im a cis male" after every sentence.

 

[piichinu]

but it's way more ok for cishets to talk about being cishet than ti is for lgbtq+ ppl to talk about being lgbtq+. like everything can be cishet. but if something is lgbtq+ it's "forced" or ppl think that "the gays are taking over !!!"

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ppl think theyre lgbtq+ positive but they get upset about ppl being too lgbtq+
lmao

i mean, people who say "no homo" unironically and emphasize their cis-ness are like the laughing stock of the world, (for a good reason too, it's p dumb) whereas when members of the lgtb+ community do it waaay too much (not generalizing, only some of them have done it) it just seems obnoxious, exactly like when cishets do it? like the way you talk about it is fine :) but some people just go over the top to emphasize their sexuality in totally random situations. idk. i can see why some ppl behave like that (validation, etc.), doesn't mean they should do it all the time around people who have no interest in it at all/people they barely know.

guess what im saying is it's not more ""ok"" for one side to do it over the other. this thread is just about the lgbt+ community so that's probs why it was mentioned in the first place, and not cishets specifically.

again im not referring to activism. that's fine and it's rly good. it's just when every other word is im ______ is a bit tacky. correcting someone who misidentifies you? also fine. does that make sense? im having trouble explaining it bc I feel like im referring to extremists of the lgbt+ community but u aren't.

 

[Cudon]

but ok so here's the thing
talking too much about it for a trans person is saying it a few times. like correcting someone when they misgender them, speaking about it in discussions relating to gender etc.
talking too much about it for a cis person would be saying "hey im a cis male" after every sentence.

Not really? I'm p sure most people in this thread think of too much as the latter example in both cases whether the person is cis or not.

 

[Gregriii]

By the way why is being trans considered a sexuality? YES it's called transexual but like you don't change your sexual orientation?

 

[piichinu]

By the way why is being trans considered a sexuality? YES it's called transexual but like you don't change your sexual orientation?

it's not, at least i don't think. im just lumping everything together so my sentences flow nicely and I'm kinda lazy when typing on mobile.

 

[seliph]

By the way why is being trans considered a sexuality? YES it's called transexual but like you don't change your sexual orientation?

Hardly anyone uses the term "transsexual" anymore and only uses "transgender" but I'm pretty sure the former only refers to people who have changed their sex characteristics

 

[visibleghost]

Here's what equality would be.

Someone who is heterosexual is treated the same as someone who is homosexual/bisexual/asexual/etc.

I honestly don't think people always make such a big deal about being heterosexual though? Like, people don't go around shouting "I'm straight!" because it's considered to be the "norm" (kinda stupid but whatever I guess). So if someone says "I'm gay", that's great, but it's almost like, if you're constantly shouting out about how you're gay or whatever, you're kind of expecting some sorta special treatment (or rather implying it, you may not actually want that, but that's how it comes across). Surely the ideal would be: someone is gay and that's okay because people are accepting of it so we don't need to make a big deal about other peoples sexualities because it's NORMAL. Constantly shouting about how you're gay or whatever kind of makes it seem like it's something abnormal and strange. I don't like shouting about how I'm bisexual because I don't want people to start treating me as if I'm different because of it? Our sexualities are just a part of who we are, it doesn't change our identities or personalities which are considerably more important, so in an ideal world people should just accept someone no matter who they're sexually attracted to. Sorry, I can't express my point eloquently so some things haven't come out the way I wanted to but I hope you get my gist.

i get what you mean but the reason to why cishets dont have to tell everyone theyre cishet is that that's the norm. you know the thing about coming out ?? and how people have been making fun of it?? and coming out as straight n crap? (which is really awful but whatever it's kinda unrelated) ppl think that ppl who arent cishet are making a big deal, but really it is the norm that forces us to come out.
now everyone is considered cishet until they tell everyone otherwise. if that wasn't the case being lgbtq+ wouldnt be such a big deal.

and ppl think that cishets dont talk about beign cishet all the time but believe me They Do. we're just so used to it .

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By the way why is being trans considered a sexuality? YES it's called transexual but like you don't change your sexual orientation?

it's not called transexuality anymore
it's not a sexuality
ppl are uninformed

 

[EpicGamer12]

Yo, it kinda makes me mad when y'all argue that we shouldn't build our entire personalities around the fact that we're queer. Maybe we focus on it so much because in the media, we're pretty much invisible. We shouldn't have to demand representation. We exist, and the media should acknowledge that, and introduce well-written, developed characters who are also a part of the LGBT+ community into their TV shows, films and comics.

Maybe if we didn't have your sexuality or gender identity s**t all over from the minute we came out then we wouldn't be so angry, but until you have faced the same experiences with negative stereotypes, tired tropes, harassment from strangers, probing questions, erasure of your identity to name a few things, then I don't really think you have a say on our community. Queer people are out here getting killed because of who we are and you think it's harmless for you to say you don't 'agree with our lifestyle'? There's nothing to agree with. And if there is something to disagree over, then I damn well disagree with the straight lifestyle, which apparently hinges on y'all being mad when we make out in public, get married, or.. uh... dare to exist.

Actually, LGBT issues is one of the most prominent concerns in the media right now. Also, since when does representation have to come to a person based on who they are attracted to? Writers of television, film, and books are free to write about whoever they want. It's the point of writing. It isn't to cater to your angst-filled needs. From your post, I can see a serious lack of perspective of how the world works.

 

[seliph]

and ppl think that cishets dont talk about beign cishet all the time but believe me They Do. we're just so used to it .

This is actually pretty true like the amount of times I hear "Now I'm straight, but" is unreal like lord no one cares just say the celebrity is cute it's fine!!!

On the other side the people who brag about "how comfortable they are with their sexuality" and therefore can say people of the same gender are hot without adding "no homo" at the end like... okay cool you aren't special

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ofc people are fighting

No one's fighting, people are having a discussion and there are some minor disagreements. Maybe don't post controversial topics if you don't want people to disagree.