How dead is AC:CF?-NEW POLL POSTED

Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 07:48:28 PM]
[ said:
[][][],Nov 8 2009, 11:12:09 PM]
Paladin said:
#karma said:
Animal Crossing is getting old.

We need a whole new concept in the game or Tom Nook will be roadkill.
Well what does super smash brothers do to get its kicks? It started on the N64, then went to the NGC, now its on the Wii, and people love it.

AC started N GC, then DS, then Wii. WHy dont people love it still?
It actually started on the N64.
Somebody already said that and i admitted that i made a mistake but thats not the point...
The point is that alot of other games that are super repetetive get played way more than animal crossing... and i say why?
Because Animal Crossing tries to take chores like watering flowers and make them "fun".
Repetitive + chores ≠ fun.
 
nephewjack said:
Paladin said:
[ said:
[][][],Nov 8 2009, 11:12:09 PM]
Paladin said:
#karma said:
Animal Crossing is getting old.

We need a whole new concept in the game or Tom Nook will be roadkill.
Well what does super smash brothers do to get its kicks? It started on the N64, then went to the NGC, now its on the Wii, and people love it.

AC started N GC, then DS, then Wii. WHy dont people love it still?
It actually started on the N64.
Somebody already said that and i admitted that i made a mistake but thats not the point...
The point is that alot of other games that are super repetetive get played way more than animal crossing... and i say why?
Because Animal Crossing tries to take chores like watering flowers and make them "fun".
Repetitive + chores
 
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 09:38:54 PM]
nephewjack said:
Paladin said:
[ said:
[][][],Nov 8 2009, 11:12:09 PM]
Paladin said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
It actually started on the N64.
Somebody already said that and i admitted that i made a mistake but thats not the point...
The point is that alot of other games that are super repetetive get played way more than animal crossing... and i say why?
Because Animal Crossing tries to take chores like watering flowers and make them "fun".
Repetitive + chores
 
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 09:38:54 PM]
nephewjack said:
Paladin said:
[[[[[[[[ said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
Somebody already said that and i admitted that i made a mistake but thats not the point...
The point is that alot of other games that are super repetetive get played way more than animal crossing... and i say why?
Because Animal Crossing tries to take chores like watering flowers and make them "fun".
Repetitive + chores
 
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 09:52:40 PM]
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 09:38:54 PM]
nephewjack said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
CATCHING BUGS? constelations? designing patterns? Decorating your town? etc etc. Many more things that arnt chores
All of the tasks have little to no reward. That makes them all essentially chores.
but it takes only a few minutes and its art (aka constelations).

What benifitss do you have from making a sig

Yes, nintendo made this a learning game.
Learn about english (write letters)
Learn about fossils (museum)
Learn about bugs (museum)
Learn about fish AND their names (museum and catching them)
Learning where some bugs live (Catching bugs)
Learn about paintings (museum)
Lean about how to save money (house loan/ furnature etc)
Learn that some things have to be done over time with patience (3 fossils a day, and you cant make much money a day)

Im sure i can list at least 10 more... but you get the point...

But this is a family game

For instance:

Your bro/sister is supposed to go up and post something on the bulleton, such as a riddle
then you would go and post a responce

Or you could all contribute to the museum

Or you could all send letters with presents etc.

There are many things that you could do with family , more than this...

And there are many possibilities in ACCF that alot of people dont see
Its productive
So basically you're saying you can do chores with your family?
ALL RIGHT! SOUNDS LIKE FUN!
And almost none of your learning benefits really count whatsoever. You don't learn about the bugs/fish/whatever, because you have a small pixelized image of them, and if money were as easy to save up as it is in AC, there would be no poor people.
And waiting days to finish arbitrary tasks isn't my idea of a fun time.
as i said, it tries to TEACH YOU about common aspects of life without being one of those gay learning games. And if you havn't noticed, the fish are in high detail...
My point is:
THIS IS A SIMULATION of real life, except a place where you can make a difference. Its like sims except more of an 'ideal world'

Its facinating to watch seasons progress as it does in real life.

And these 'chores' are fun if you dont over use them

Quote from Algore (when he was a kid and worked on a farm)

"It was so... different back then. Back then, I hardley knew the differance between working and playing"

This is the aspect that is introduced in the game.

And also, if you like RPGs, or games you advance in, this is a great game for that.


So my absolute point is:
That this game is pretty much real life (in harmony), and if you dont enjoy life, then you might as well not play this game.
 
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 10:23:16 PM]
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 09:52:40 PM]
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 09:38:54 PM]
Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
All of the tasks have little to no reward. That makes them all essentially chores.
but it takes only a few minutes and its art (aka constelations).

What benifitss do you have from making a sig

Yes, nintendo made this a learning game.
Learn about english (write letters)
Learn about fossils (museum)
Learn about bugs (museum)
Learn about fish AND their names (museum and catching them)
Learning where some bugs live (Catching bugs)
Learn about paintings (museum)
Lean about how to save money (house loan/ furnature etc)
Learn that some things have to be done over time with patience (3 fossils a day, and you cant make much money a day)

Im sure i can list at least 10 more... but you get the point...

But this is a family game

For instance:

Your bro/sister is supposed to go up and post something on the bulleton, such as a riddle
then you would go and post a responce

Or you could all contribute to the museum

Or you could all send letters with presents etc.

There are many things that you could do with family , more than this...

And there are many possibilities in ACCF that alot of people dont see
Its productive
So basically you're saying you can do chores with your family?
ALL RIGHT! SOUNDS LIKE FUN!
And almost none of your learning benefits really count whatsoever. You don't learn about the bugs/fish/whatever, because you have a small pixelized image of them, and if money were as easy to save up as it is in AC, there would be no poor people.
And waiting days to finish arbitrary tasks isn't my idea of a fun time.
as i said, it tries to TEACH YOU about common aspects of life without being one of those gay learning games. And if you havn't noticed, the fish are in high detail...
My point is:
THIS IS A SIMULATION of real life, except a place where you can make a difference. Its like sims except more of an 'ideal world'

Its facinating to watch seasons progress as it does in real life.

And these 'chores' are fun if you dont over use them

Quote from Algore (when he was a kid and worked on a farm)

"It was so... different back then. Back then, I hardley knew the differance between working and playing"

This is the aspect that is introduced in the game.

And also, if you like RPGs, or games you advance in, this is a great game for that.


So my absolute point is:
That this game is pretty much real life (in harmony), and if you dont enjoy life, then you might as well not play this game.
I don't want to play a game where all you do is live. I do that already. It's called the real world. People are realizing that a video game's supposed to entertain you because it's an escape from real life, and playing a fake real life isn't all that it's made out to be.
At least in the Sims you can do stuff like light people's houses on fire to make it less mundane.
 
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 10:23:16 PM]
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 09:52:40 PM]
nephewjack said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
but it takes only a few minutes and its art (aka constelations).

What benifitss do you have from making a sig

Yes, nintendo made this a learning game.
Learn about english (write letters)
Learn about fossils (museum)
Learn about bugs (museum)
Learn about fish AND their names (museum and catching them)
Learning where some bugs live (Catching bugs)
Learn about paintings (museum)
Lean about how to save money (house loan/ furnature etc)
Learn that some things have to be done over time with patience (3 fossils a day, and you cant make much money a day)

Im sure i can list at least 10 more... but you get the point...

But this is a family game

For instance:

Your bro/sister is supposed to go up and post something on the bulleton, such as a riddle
then you would go and post a responce

Or you could all contribute to the museum

Or you could all send letters with presents etc.

There are many things that you could do with family , more than this...

And there are many possibilities in ACCF that alot of people dont see
Its productive
So basically you're saying you can do chores with your family?
ALL RIGHT! SOUNDS LIKE FUN!
And almost none of your learning benefits really count whatsoever. You don't learn about the bugs/fish/whatever, because you have a small pixelized image of them, and if money were as easy to save up as it is in AC, there would be no poor people.
And waiting days to finish arbitrary tasks isn't my idea of a fun time.
as i said, it tries to TEACH YOU about common aspects of life without being one of those gay learning games. And if you havn't noticed, the fish are in high detail...
My point is:
THIS IS A SIMULATION of real life, except a place where you can make a difference. Its like sims except more of an 'ideal world'

Its facinating to watch seasons progress as it does in real life.

And these 'chores' are fun if you dont over use them

Quote from Algore (when he was a kid and worked on a farm)

"It was so... different back then. Back then, I hardley knew the differance between working and playing"

This is the aspect that is introduced in the game.

And also, if you like RPGs, or games you advance in, this is a great game for that.


So my absolute point is:
That this game is pretty much real life (in harmony), and if you dont enjoy life, then you might as well not play this game.
I don't want to play a game where all you do is live. I do that already. It's called the real world. People are realizing that a video game's supposed to entertain you because it's an escape from real life, and playing a fake real life isn't all that it's made out to be.
At least in the Sims you can do stuff like light people's houses on fire to make it less mundane.
Well Animal Crossing is a fantasy world.
Ok?
Let me give you some examples about how its better/ different than the real world
Can you find fossils by just looking at cracks on the ground?
Can you fish and catch one within seconds
Do you ever cut trees down in real life?
Do you buy furnature yet and redecorate your room very so often?
Do you dontate things to the museum very often?
DO you craft your own design (LIKE Ables)
Do you catch bugs?
Do you buy stock (TURNips)?
I could keep on going.
But you get the point

Animal crossing is a MADE UP life
Life enhanced
Like vitamin water- enhanced water.
My point-
You cant REALLY compare this to the real world, but you can in a sence. It has the 'real life' feeling to it. But there are many things that you dont do/cant do in real life

Things that summarize events in real life.
Thats why its best not to play ACCF too much...
You should take 3 fossils every day.

Catch bugs.

Do things that you usually dont/cant do in real life.
If you call being superman a chore, then just get out of here...
 
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 10:44:18 PM]
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 10:23:16 PM]
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 09:52:40 PM]
Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
So basically you're saying you can do chores with your family?
ALL RIGHT! SOUNDS LIKE FUN!
And almost none of your learning benefits really count whatsoever. You don't learn about the bugs/fish/whatever, because you have a small pixelized image of them, and if money were as easy to save up as it is in AC, there would be no poor people.
And waiting days to finish arbitrary tasks isn't my idea of a fun time.
as i said, it tries to TEACH YOU about common aspects of life without being one of those gay learning games. And if you havn't noticed, the fish are in high detail...
My point is:
THIS IS A SIMULATION of real life, except a place where you can make a difference. Its like sims except more of an 'ideal world'

Its facinating to watch seasons progress as it does in real life.

And these 'chores' are fun if you dont over use them

Quote from Algore (when he was a kid and worked on a farm)

"It was so... different back then. Back then, I hardley knew the differance between working and playing"

This is the aspect that is introduced in the game.

And also, if you like RPGs, or games you advance in, this is a great game for that.


So my absolute point is:
That this game is pretty much real life (in harmony), and if you dont enjoy life, then you might as well not play this game.
I don't want to play a game where all you do is live. I do that already. It's called the real world. People are realizing that a video game's supposed to entertain you because it's an escape from real life, and playing a fake real life isn't all that it's made out to be.
At least in the Sims you can do stuff like light people's houses on fire to make it less mundane.
Well Animal Crossing is a fantasy world.
Ok?
Let me give you some examples about how its better/ different than the real world
Can you find fossils by just looking at cracks on the ground?
Can you fish and catch one within seconds
Do you ever cut trees down in real life?
Do you buy furnature yet and redecorate your room very so often?
Do you dontate things to the museum very often?
DO you craft your own design (LIKE Ables)
Do you catch bugs?
Do you buy stock (TURNips)?
I could keep on going.
But you get the point

Animal crossing is a MADE UP life
Life enhanced
Like vitamin water- enhanced water.
My point-
You cant REALLY compare this to the real world, but you can in a sence. It has the 'real life' feeling to it. But there are many things that you dont do/cant do in real life

Things that summarize events in real life.
Thats why its best not to play ACCF too much...
You should take 3 fossils every day.

Catch bugs.

Do things that you usually dont/cant do in real life.
If you call being superman a chore, then just get out of here...
You're saying that in AC, you're Superman?
BAHAHAHAHA.
Sure, it's different from the real world, and real life would be exciting if you could do those things, but in a game, they're not fun. Digging up fossils, for instance, in real life would be awesome, but when you press the B or A or whatever button and your character shoves a shovel into the ground to get a fossil, it loses the excitement factor.

Basically, my main point is:
AC is basically a video game that tries to simulate real life. It also tries to enhance real life by adding things you can't do in real life, but reduces them to arbitrary tasks because they can't feasibly pull them off in such a game.
 
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 10:44:18 PM]
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 10:23:16 PM]
nephewjack said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
as i said, it tries to TEACH YOU about common aspects of life without being one of those gay learning games. And if you havn't noticed, the fish are in high detail...
My point is:
THIS IS A SIMULATION of real life, except a place where you can make a difference. Its like sims except more of an 'ideal world'

Its facinating to watch seasons progress as it does in real life.

And these 'chores' are fun if you dont over use them

Quote from Algore (when he was a kid and worked on a farm)

"It was so... different back then. Back then, I hardley knew the differance between working and playing"

This is the aspect that is introduced in the game.

And also, if you like RPGs, or games you advance in, this is a great game for that.


So my absolute point is:
That this game is pretty much real life (in harmony), and if you dont enjoy life, then you might as well not play this game.
I don't want to play a game where all you do is live. I do that already. It's called the real world. People are realizing that a video game's supposed to entertain you because it's an escape from real life, and playing a fake real life isn't all that it's made out to be.
At least in the Sims you can do stuff like light people's houses on fire to make it less mundane.
Well Animal Crossing is a fantasy world.
Ok?
Let me give you some examples about how its better/ different than the real world
Can you find fossils by just looking at cracks on the ground?
Can you fish and catch one within seconds
Do you ever cut trees down in real life?
Do you buy furnature yet and redecorate your room very so often?
Do you dontate things to the museum very often?
DO you craft your own design (LIKE Ables)
Do you catch bugs?
Do you buy stock (TURNips)?
I could keep on going.
But you get the point

Animal crossing is a MADE UP life
Life enhanced
Like vitamin water- enhanced water.
My point-
You cant REALLY compare this to the real world, but you can in a sence. It has the 'real life' feeling to it. But there are many things that you dont do/cant do in real life

Things that summarize events in real life.
Thats why its best not to play ACCF too much...
You should take 3 fossils every day.

Catch bugs.

Do things that you usually dont/cant do in real life.
If you call being superman a chore, then just get out of here...
You're saying that in AC, you're Superman?
BAHAHAHAHA.
Sure, it's different from the real world, and real life would be exciting if you could do those things, but in a game, they're not fun. Digging up fossils, for instance, in real life would be awesome, but when you press the B or A or whatever button and your character shoves a shovel into the ground to get a fossil, it loses the excitement factor.

Basically, my main point is:
AC is basically a video game that tries to simulate real life. It also tries to enhance real life by adding things you can't do in real life, but reduces them to arbitrary tasks because they can't feasibly pull them off in such a game.
AC is supposed to be an adventure...

why do you play video games for anyways then? All videogames 'make you escape from life'
Its just the preferance of which games you like.
And it adds a feel to it because its 'simple' yet complex
the complex version is Sims...

and the target for this game is family
Like a 8 year old with a 11 year old sister, and two 40 year old parents
Just an example

But whatever,

You know what.
You're too stubborn.
You win
This game just isnt for you... so you can use every aspect of it against me.

NEVER FREAKING OWNED IT. Now stop PMing me.

So obviously you dont know how fun it is...

If someone just said SSBB was a platform fighting game, it probably wouldnt make you excited. wHAT WOULD make you excited is playing it.
 
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 10:55:59 PM]
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 10:44:18 PM]
nephewjack said:
Palad said:
[n,Nov 9 2009, 10:23:16 PM]
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepabsolute point is:
That this game is pretty much real life (in harmony), and if you dont enjoy life, then you might as well not play this game.
I don't want to play a game where all you do is live. I do that already. It's called the real world. People are realizing that a video game's supposed to entertain you because it's an escape from real life, and playing a fake real life isn't all that it's made out to be.
At least in the Sims you can do stuff like light people's houses on fire to make it less mundane.
Well Animal Crossing is a fantasy world.
Ok?
Let me give you some examples about how its better/ different than the real world
Can you find fossils by just looking at cracks on the ground?
Can you fish and catch one within seconds
Do you ever cut trees down in real life?
Do you buy furnature yet and redecorate your room very so often?
Do you dontate things to the museum very often?
DO you craft your own design (LIKE Ables)
Do you catch bugs?
Do you buy stock (TURNips)?
I could keep on going.
But you get the point

Animal crossing is a MADE UP life
Life enhanced
Like vitamin water- enhanced water.
My point-
You cant REALLY compare this to the real world, but you can in a sence. It has the 'real life' feeling to it. But there are many things that you dont do/cant do in real life

Things that summarize events in real life.
Thats why its best not to play ACCF too much...
You should take 3 fossils every day.

Catch bugs.

Do things that you usually dont/cant do in real life.
If you call being superman a chore, then just get out of here...
You're saying that in AC, you're Superman?
BAHAHAHAHA.
Sure, it's different from the real world, and real life would be exciting if you could do those things, but in a game, they're not fun. Digging up fossils, for instance, in real life would be awesome, but when you press the B or A or whatever button and your character shoves a shovel into the ground to get a fossil, it loses the excitement factor.

Basically, my main point is:
AC is basically a video game that tries to simulate real life. It also tries to enhance real life by adding things you can't do in real life, but reduces them to arbitrary tasks because they can't feasibly pull them off in such a game.
AC is supposed to be an adventure...

why do you play video games for anyways then? All videogames 'make you escape from life'
Its just the preferance of which games you like.
And it adds a feel to it because its 'simple' yet complex
the complex version is Sims...

and the target for this game is family
Like a 8 year old with a 11 year old sister, and two 40 year old parents
Just an example

But whatever,

You know what.
You're too stubborn.
You win
This game just isnt for you... so you can use every aspect of it against me.

NEVER FREAKING OWNED IT. Now stop PMing me.

So obviously you dont know how fun it is...

If someone just said SSBB was a platform fighting game, it probably wouldnt make you excited. wHAT WOULD make you excited is playing it.
I owned Wild World. CF is WW with a city slapped on it.

And God knows we need more "family friendly" games.
AC does not allow you to escape from life. It is essential another life where you do nothing but tasks with little reward.

Good night.
 
Watering flowers was a chore, but once you had the gold can it wasn't a big deal.

In the new games grass wear changes this, to keep the grass alive you need to water flowers EVERY DAY. It becomes boring and takes from the time I spend on it, if it wasn't such a big deal I would have more time to make money on it.
 
Wow this poll is actually going pretty well. I thought it would die off before we got to the second page >.>
 
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