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What caused this re-ev?
Well I said before I believed it was either Punchy/Dad or Bianca/Dad, and right now my gut is telling me it's Bianca/Dad because
1. Punchy's role does make more sense for town, while I don't believe it's impossible for scum
2. Dad voting for Punchy day 1
3. Bianca voting for you over Dad plus her kinda weird behavior overall (barely posting, and she randomly came in at the end of N1 saying she found toads suspicious but not saying why? And her last post isn't great either)
tbh this is probably what's causing the most doubt in my mind towards Dad's alignment
Dad said:
See how he is defending Bianca here
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Also, for those doubting two town power roles (although it seems to mainly be the probable scumteam) it could be to balance out the scum flipper
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The only person that probably did that was the vote switcher, because everything else lines up.
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because having fun makes time go faster than usual ;3
Back, ended up having to train someone for six hours of work. I see an actual wall from Bianca.
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Votes as of this post:
Dad - Vanessa
Vanessa - Dad
Dolby - Bianca
1) One shot cop isn't common so I can understand this doubt because it's one of the reasons why I doubt it.
2) Explain why you see those team combinations.
3) Or you could believe both are town PR but here we are with one having actual power and host confirming it. I'm more willing to believe Punchy's power than Vanessa's atm.
4) Why are you saying you haven't read when you're making specific team guesses like this?
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Votes as of this post:
Dad - Vanessa
Vanessa - Dad
Dolby - Bianca
1) One shot cop isn't common so I can understand this doubt because it's one of the reasons why I doubt it.
2) Explain why you see those team combinations.
3) Or you could believe both are town PR but here we are with one having actual power and host confirming it. I'm more willing to believe Punchy's power than Vanessa's atm.
4) Why are you saying you haven't read when you're making specific team guesses like this?
Tbh I'd be willing to vote Bianca right now because I can actually envision a world where Vanessa is town. Bianca literally votes me when she believes the team is me/Dad and Dad already has a vote, has no claim. She throws out three teams that should frankly be considered impossible but that may be her just not reading. However, a big red flag is not believing Punchy
Tbh I don't understand why I've been a wagon and lesser target this whole game, prob attacks anything that moves mode
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Putting my vote on Bianca to keep the options open
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Also, ftr, the Vanessa!town world is really narrow
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In a semi-role madness like this I wouldn't be suprised with no GF
Tbh I don't understand why I've been a wagon and lesser target this whole game, prob attacks anything that moves mode
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Putting my vote on Bianca to keep the options open
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Also, ftr, the Vanessa!town world is really narrow
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In a semi-role madness like this I wouldn't be suprised with no GF
1) On the note of us being the only flipper potential I'm mostly saying it because I think we're both townies with no power and don't claim to have one and that's probably why one is flipper but we're at LYLO. I don't disagree with the thought you have here with Vanessa/Bianca partnership potential. Bianca townread was gut and before her small wall I just responded to. Admittedly I skimmed to catch up when I was at my rest stop.
2) I was saying that because I have townread you both and I'm concerned about how Punchy has been wacko in the past whenever he gets town PR, meaning other scum is either you or Bianca if I don't think both are town PRs - it's not that I think there can't be more than one considering fmpov this seems scumsided it's just that I don't buy her's, especially considering how she made her decision yesterday to vote Dedenne. Also Bianca didn't make that assumption and considered four options.
3) Not disagreeing with that being a fake dumbtell but I want you to expand on your thought here.
4) My only issue is with her partnering potential is the lack of consideration Bianca had about Vanessa saying Punchy might not be town despite how it's exactly the kind of thing a second claimer would do as well as what you mentioned here and idk if Bianca was ranking them but her first one was Punchy/Vanessa. The only partnery potential here is that Vanessa wanted Dedenne over Punchy at that end of day. I think Vanessa knew that if he was town with that power then being the one to vote and flip him -after- he made that claim is a bad look despite how dangerous he is for scum if he's town and left alive at that moment.
5) Even though you aren't following it I'm assuming your angle with the Bianca/GFDad combo is PoE?
6) I'm assuming Godfather is the negative utility role you're talking about here? In a world where Vanessa is town I don't think GF isn't plausible.
7) Not wanting to vote yet is a towny action here but I wanna see the fruits of those efforts, looking into those combos.
8) How so in regards to Toads?
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1 is agreeable conclusion, 2 is a quick abandonment of the hardbus angle but also because Punchy is at this moment a harder lynch to sell even if you do think he's scum. 3 is what I have an issue with - your world is objectively one where you have to convince Dolby that I'm scum because town you and town Punchy (which Dolby has put out there he believes) means you have to sell Dad/Bianca. This is why I'm getting the motive to pocket from this. You drop Punchy and find issue with Bianca voting for him over me - both things appeal to him.
Also it's this kind of in thread interaction that would be pretty complex for Vanessa/Dolby team to fake so good job if that's team.
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I was still in the headspace of Punchy being scum with that power and I hadn't read Bianca's wall yet but now that I've mulled over balance and how Punchy acts with game changing roles I've eliminated him, but Bianca was a lot more towny in the headspace that Punchy could still be mafia. And speaking of balance we already had judge and revealer if we're sold there so this cop claim is one use because you think it's more balanced in consideration of there already being two PRs out there.
Ftr, I've recently come to agree that we're the only ones with flipper potential, which def gives us a strong incentive to townside atm
Let's be real, for each of us the suspects are Vanessa, Bianca, and eachother. I 100% believe that Vanessa goes for the clear here, not because of anything inherent to her play, but because the alternative is believing that you condoned a hard bus on yourself at this time, or she's hard bussing without your consent(in the world where Vanessa is scum). I don't really believe these things are feasible
I don't hold the bianca thing against you for the record. However, Bianca voting for me rather than you definetely brings you/her into the picture, even though we don't know her vote for certain
Pretending to not know that scum night kills take place, like, that's the principle #2 of mafia and she just pretended that she didn't know it
Actually, the problem at the time for me was not accepting Punchy I think but I think that was legitimate non-reading on her part
Vanessa/Bianca is strongest in PoE by a long shot. You/Bianca is in PoE purely because I'm paranoid about it but imo you've been pretty town this whole time. The main thing that shocked me is why wouldn't Bianca say she's on Dad, rather she's on me, in this situation, and that's why I'm not 100% set on Vanessa/Bianca. Besides, a Bianca lynch frankly either makes or breaks Vanessa's claim
I was entertaining Vanessa/Dad for a bit but frankly I don't see Vanessa as the type of player who does that to her teammate, presumably wihtout your consent
Negative utility role was actually Punchy because there still seemed to be a sentiment that he could be lying
Yeah, I do agree that GF isn't implausible, but to believe Vanessa, frankly I have to believe that that awkward push on you was legit, but this is also why I want Bianca dead, since I can envision a Dad/Bianca team where Vanessa is legit. Lynching Bianca pretty much confirms it because I don't believe in insane cop no matter the situation
Toads was 100% in the PoE for me, because besides lashing out at me and that one reads post, he did literally nothing.
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How tf is Bianca's wall towny
Like, I get that you're considering the me/Vanessa world, but still
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She practically refuses to come up with any conclusions except the frankly mechanically nonsensical vote on me
How is not believing Punchy right away a big red flag though? I didn't, even -after- host confirmed the power itself. I'm wondering why you aren't going in on me for it but are calling it such a flag for her. Mostly inquiring this to rid myself of that Dolby hardbus Punchy fakeclaim tinfoil I have lingering in the corner of the brain. Given you wouldn't say this while voting Bianca and attacking Vanessa with it.
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Eh...Dolby was genuinely surprised when Dedenne flipped and had to ask Punchy if he was on Dedenne after all so that confirms it's not Dolby/Punchy for me actually.
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Vanessa is truly the only person Dolby could be paired with here and if so I don't see why he would use something against her (calling it a red flag) if he was teamed with her and against me given I didn't accept it either...and given that's his only combo potential he's town with a moment like this
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Actually **** I can see mafia bussing on this day if it's day 3 when they get flipper so looking into Dolby/Bianca
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If that's a really implausible combo then it's confirmed Vanessa/Bianca
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@Bianca please explain why you voted Dolby over all else given you weighed so many possibilities.
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Oh just noticed the response wall from Dolby was ninjad.
Lmao
Anything that you want me to respond to or make a case on why I should be voting Vanessa over Bianca? I feel that the fake townslip is really intuitive
At the point in time where she posted the wall i think town!Pumchy was widely established so that’s why I dislike it: it felt like broadening to create something beyond Dad/Dolby when Dad/Dolby wasn’t getting acceptance
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We just keep missing each other
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If you think Dolby/Vanessa is a possibility (this is for Punchy) why tf would I have Vanessa put forward a world where Vanessa presents three town that don’t include myself and have her townreading me despite that
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A big point for why I dislike Bianca is that you re-eved to strong town on Lunchy and I could see the timing of the posts since Bianca came in
Bianca didn’t, she was static and didn’t really read back
Also, she threw forward almost every single team without her on it
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I feel my logic circuits breaking down
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Dad, if you want me to stay, please say so. Oversee I’m turning in
Anything that you want me to respond to or make a case on why I should be voting Vanessa over Bianca? I feel that the fake townslip is really intuitive
At the point in time where she posted the wall i think town!Pumchy was widely established so that’s why I dislike it: it felt like broadening to create something beyond Dad/Dolby when Dad/Dolby wasn’t getting acceptance
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We just keep missing each other
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If you think Dolby/Vanessa is a possibility (this is for Punchy) why tf would I have Vanessa put forward a world where Vanessa presents three town that don’t include myself and have her townreading me despite that
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A big point for why I dislike Bianca is that you re-eved to strong town on Lunchy and I could see the timing of the posts since Bianca came in
Bianca didn’t, she was static and didn’t really read back
Also, she threw forward almost every single team without her on it
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I feel my logic circuits breaking down
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Dad, if you want me to stay, please say so. Oversee I’m turning in
I will get to your thoughts in your last two posts in bits and pieces but I'm saying I -don't- find her wall towny, just what came before it, and only in a world where Punchy is scum or a Vanessa/Dolby world and that neither of those two seem plausible at the moment. I'll get to your other thoughts in bits and pieces.
I'm going to switch to Bianca for the sake of plurality although I think this is day will lend itself to majority with 5.
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Walling on a cellphone at work is not as easy as I make it look, doing it every game.
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Despite doing*
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I think we're both paranoid about each other being with Bianca and she's pretty PoE scum for me so it feels weird to work with you towards a goal of living to see the day when we'll be against beach other
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Wait why are you saying it's weird for Bianca to not put a team with herself in it out there. Is it in her meta that she's the type to do that despite point of view making it unnecessary?
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What was the last game Bianca was scum in?
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The one where she was a stump (Zelda one)?
I'm going to switch to Bianca for the sake of plurality although I think this is day will lend itself to majority with 5.
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Walling on a cellphone at work is not as easy as I make it look, doing it every game.
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Despite doing*
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I think we're both paranoid about each other being with Bianca and she's pretty PoE scum for me so it feels weird to work with you towards a goal of living to see the day when we'll be against beach other
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Wait why are you saying it's weird for Bianca to not put a team with herself in it out there. Is it in her meta that she's the type to do that despite point of view making it unnecessary?
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What was the last game Bianca was scum in?
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The one where she was a stump (Zelda one)?
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