Entry Fees for Sahara/ Villager DIYs/ high turnip prices etc.
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sleepydreepy
legendary egg
Yeah it kinda sucks but makes sense. The game is still new so people don't have a stock pile of money or miles yet and must rely on other people to get them. I feel like in a few months hopefully this will die down (as people acquire all the items, money, and villagers they want) and people will just let you come for free (since they no longer need anything).
I don't have a problem with entry fees at all. If the main reason you're looking going to someone's town is transactional (selling turnips, getting DIYs, buying stuff from Sahara), then you shouldn't have a problem with their reason for letting you in being transactional (getting IGB or NMT). If you want people to let you in for free, then you should build relationships with others first and that means putting in the effort to do non-transactional things. Visit or invite someone else just to hang out and chat or tour people's islands, etc. People don't charge their buddies to come in. Once you put in the effort to make friends, they'll let you come for free, but the only catch is that you'll have to stick around and continue to build that relationship instead of just running back to the airport after selling those turnips. You also have to be willing to reciprocate and invite others in when you have good stuff in your town (or even when you don't have good stuff in your town).
Animal Crossing is a social game. Be social. This is coming from someone who is not very social. Take some time to get away from the trading threads and participate in other parts of the game and on these forums.
Animal Crossing is a social game. Be social. This is coming from someone who is not very social. Take some time to get away from the trading threads and participate in other parts of the game and on these forums.
Same here. People who are asking for an entry fee of any kind, especially specific items besides bells, should be posting on Nook’s Cranny.
They are looking to make a transaction.
RooftopsRevolution
Senior Member
[edit] Seliph hit basically what I feel. I don't have issues with entry fees as long as they're not excessive. People are taking time out to open their town, so to profit from that makes sense.
I think it's just common sense to give a tip in return if someone is going to take the time to open up for you and host. I do prefer to keep mine open and I do request that people consider tips (Or even small things like a note on my board) but I leave that up to them.
What I can't stand is when people ask for 99k bells for a turnip visit. I spend enough bells on turnips on Sunday to get well over a 99k profit. Overall, politeness is important and how people want to treat their towns is also important. I don't have an issue with entry fees but I think if you are visiting a town for your own gain it is polite to leave tips without being asked.
I think it's just common sense to give a tip in return if someone is going to take the time to open up for you and host. I do prefer to keep mine open and I do request that people consider tips (Or even small things like a note on my board) but I leave that up to them.
What I can't stand is when people ask for 99k bells for a turnip visit. I spend enough bells on turnips on Sunday to get well over a 99k profit. Overall, politeness is important and how people want to treat their towns is also important. I don't have an issue with entry fees but I think if you are visiting a town for your own gain it is polite to leave tips without being asked.
I do think it's kind of unfriendly to charge people simply to visit your island for basic necessities like fruit, shopping, or speaking to an npc. I also don't agree with the excuses of "oh but it's soooo much trouble and time consuming to allow people to visit." I would just say if that's how you feel about visitors, then don't open your gates for people. It's no fun for anyone if you feel like it's a chore to have visitors. That being said, it's their island and if they want to charge an entry fee, we can't stop them. I personally would feel guilty to do such a thing. I delight in having visitors to my island.
I know this was an aside, but going by the game itself, NMTs are only worth about 12k so it actually is.
*This is not an opinion in any way of the fees people are asking for and such as I heavily disagree with them and have been purposely sniping people demanding fees by doing tasks for free for people lmao.
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
If you don't have time to open up your gates for people to come over.... then don't? Or stop it after a certain time
People aren't doing this out of the kindness of their heart. they are doing it because they know they can make bank off of it. The back and forth of multiple trips for turnips ok, yeah hence why i think a culture of a tip is important. But paying 1 NMT for me to come in for 2 minutes is dumb imo. I said this seems unsavory and agree that it takes away from the spirit of this game. I never said I think its ruining the community, but I do think it would better the community to not have a bunch of stuff like that
When you open your gates whether its for a trade, free roam, or whatever always exercise caution. If someone screws up your town, that measly nook mile ticket isn't gonna outweigh the damage. Etiquette shouldn't be free or attached to payment.
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1-2 99k bags is the usual turnip fee in nh as well, it's also generally accepted as the reasonable one.
past games may have been more risky but there's still risk. i've already seen instances in nh where users have picked flowers (which isn't damaging sure, but it is disrespectful) without asking or taken turnips/items off the ground or bought limited items at nooks, so the fact that there's still a risk factor is enough to warrant wanting compensation imo. new leaf also pretty much only had turnip prices to offer, where new horizons has celeste, sahara, and crafting villagers.
there's also plenty of people who offer trips for free. if you don't wanna pay someone you don't have to - you don't need that celeste diy or sahara wallpaper right away, they're around so often you're bound to get 'em at some point.
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they don't know if you're going to shake their trees or not, leaving you a bad rating isn't gonna get their stuff back. a fee at least lets them seek out what they lost if anything goes wrong.
another thing to keep in mind is these people are usually spending hours letting people in, they're not quick onestops like what usually happens in our discord.
yes because one bag of 99k is going to make up for stolen furniture/ DIY/ picked flowers etc.
usually the damage done and the feeling of being stolen from doesn't feel better if someone gave you a NMT or any other payment upon entry. So I stand by that etiquette shouldn't be free or attached to a payment. Again, there is a rating system for this too to hopefully stop that person or warn others from letting them in, which i understand also can't stop someone from doing anything in the future.
thegunpowderincident
net light side shift
I think it's acceptable to ask for something in return for letting people visit your island for things like turnip prices/special characters, since it can take a lot of time to let people into your island, especially if you get a good amount of responses. but the "entry fees" people ask for lately are exorbitant. Honestly, even just 1 NMT is too much to ask for simply letting people on your island. Whenever I do something like this I just ask for a piece of furniture/clothing, some bait, or a small amount of bells.
I also dont think some people realize that most of the people who "take" from the community with fees are also almost always giving it back in some way. I'm already very generous with giving optional tips, and have even gifted someone a lighthouse I bought with my own nook miles that they lost to an incident of someone stealing their stuff while they offered people to sell their turnips at their town (and btw they were taking OPTIONAL tips, multiple people willingly gave them entire lighthouses)
If I made a decent amount from putting up a cheap fee for a bunch of people to come to sell their turnips for a couple of hours, I would be more inclined to dump a lot of the earnings into helping others for free, tipping higher, etc. that can be just as much as a community thing. Like I said, i agree that outrageous fees aren't good for the community, but I dont see why people seem so opposed to even a dirt-cheap fee.
(Also I know saying "optional tip" is redundant, but a lot of people have had the wrong definition lately so I just wanna be clear xD)
Edit: also whether you think a fee of even just 1 nmt is too much is entirely valid and up to you! I wont argue that you have to accept that. I've personally been stocking up on an absurd amount of miles so they're usually not an issue for me when I already sometimes tip 2-3 nmts for someone letting me in to sell turnips. But i understand with the current economy and certain playstyles couldnt work with it.
If I made a decent amount from putting up a cheap fee for a bunch of people to come to sell their turnips for a couple of hours, I would be more inclined to dump a lot of the earnings into helping others for free, tipping higher, etc. that can be just as much as a community thing. Like I said, i agree that outrageous fees aren't good for the community, but I dont see why people seem so opposed to even a dirt-cheap fee.
(Also I know saying "optional tip" is redundant, but a lot of people have had the wrong definition lately so I just wanna be clear xD)
Edit: also whether you think a fee of even just 1 nmt is too much is entirely valid and up to you! I wont argue that you have to accept that. I've personally been stocking up on an absurd amount of miles so they're usually not an issue for me when I already sometimes tip 2-3 nmts for someone letting me in to sell turnips. But i understand with the current economy and certain playstyles couldnt work with it.
People can't steal placed furniture. Your plucked flowers will grow back, it's not going to ruin your whole career, and you shouldn't be placing DIYs around your town if you don't want people potentially taking them. Fence them in, no one can pick up your fences.
And if you're so incredibly sure that every single person that comes will steal from you, fence a route straight from the airport to the shop and that's it, they won't be able to go anywhere else.
starlightsong
♡ static's biggest fan ♡
ehhh i think a fee of like 1 NMT is understandable tbh?? in the game you pay 1 NMT to go to a mystery island so i think that’s a fair price to let strangers come by your island and take up your time. but people asking for like 3+ NMT, or saying they’ll only take DIYs they don’t have, is ridiculous i agree.
Krissi2197
wolf pack fanatic
I think entry fees are okay if you dont charge outrageous prices... when my turnip prices were high I asked for tips but it wasnt a requirement to get in. I made almost 3mil bells just from optional tips alone.
People asking for tips as a requirement isnt considered a tip anymore... it honestly makes me less inclined to tip lol
People asking for tips as a requirement isnt considered a tip anymore... it honestly makes me less inclined to tip lol
Feet?
Nobody should be forced to open up their gates if they don't want to. People constantly going in and out of your island takes up a lot of people's times, and nobody owes that to a stranger. If someone wants to offer their services for free - great! But nobody is entitled to someone else's time or island in general. Having a reasonable fee discourages thieves and scammers, blind trust doesn't protect you.
unfortunately the value for NMT is so inflated at this point, I've seen people pay 200k for just one (most people do 99k for one). Same with hybrid flowers, they're worth practically nothing in game but people will pay an arm and a leg for one.
"People aren't doing this out of the kindness of their heart. they are doing it because they know they can make bank off of it." is that really a fair assumption?
every time i've gone to someone for turnips they take at LEAST 2-3 people at a time, it's never a 2 minute session. it's them watching several strangers at a time, and usually repeating the process for several groups. they're often repeating this for a matter of hours, not minutes, trying to help as many people out as they can. asking for a charge that's near nothing compared to what's being made by selling turnips doesn't mean they're just after money lol.
it... will though? you can use that to buy at least some of what was lost back lol, it's better than being left with nothing. 1 nmt is selling for like 200k or something so hell that'd be even better.
Another point: the economy is still pretty unstable. In New Leaf people used to give really valuable items to the town owner as an insurance while they were visiting their down for business reasons. If the visitor steals something, the person is reimbursed. If the owner wants to steal the valuable item, the visitor can just close the game. And if the trade runs smoothly, nobody has to pay anything.
The thing is, we just need to give New Horizons more time. Everybody is so worried about things being too slow and missing out on stuff.
The thing is, we just need to give New Horizons more time. Everybody is so worried about things being too slow and missing out on stuff.
