Debate: Vaccines

[oath2order]

Because apparently this is a debate we need to have. In 2015.

Alrighty. So in the U.S. we're apparently having this debate about whether or not vaccines should be mandated, after a breakout of measles in Disneyland, California because of some anti-vaccination people who contracted measles and spread it.

So what's everybody's thoughts on immunization? The U.S. federally does not mandate it, it's done by a state-by-state basis. Exemptions are allowed on religious basis in all states but West Viriginia and Mississippi, and personal beliefs are allowed in 20 states.

 

[Brackets]

It should be compulsory tbh. It's incredibly selfish (and stupid) of the parents to put their child, and also other people's children, at risk because they believe propaganda. I'm so glad this idiocy is less common in England.

If you don't believe vaccines are beneficial then you shouldn't believe any science at all (although it wouldn't surprise me if people didn't)

 

[Alienfish]

It should be compulsory tbh. It's incredibly selfish (and stupid) of the parents to put their child, and also other people's children, at risk because they believe propaganda. I'm so glad this idiocy is less common in England.

If you don't believe vaccines are beneficial then you shouldn't believe any science at all (although it wouldn't surprise me if people didn't)

Amen doctor friends. I really don't get those people who abstain the most important ones because of whatever reasons/social media propaganda. There is one thing if it's an untested flu one but abstaining deadly child diseases.. no.

 

[Stevey Queen]

I haven't looked into why people think vaccines are bad but I think it's incredibly stupid to not get them for your children. Why would you want them get diseases and suffer?

 

[Shimmer]

after a breakout of measles in Disneyland, California because of some anti-vaccination people who contracted measles and spread it.

This is exactly why it needs to be mandatory.

 

[muromame]

Really unfortunate that this misconception is so wide spread in the US currently. Even Obama recently said that parents should vaccinate their children. I think it should be mandatory in every state or doctors should really educate parents.

A few days ago i even heard from a doctor that doesn't vaccinate his children! He said he doesn't care about the health of other children. Only about his. But the point is that he endangers his and every other child. So outrageous.

 

[gnoixaim]

I haven't looked into why people think vaccines are bad but I think it's incredibly stupid to not get them for your children. Why would you want them get diseases and suffer?

Because apparently vaccinating your kids will cause Autism.

 

[Alienfish]

Because apparently vaccinating your kids will cause Autism.

And it's against our belief!!111shift

 

[Brackets]

There's actually quite a few reasons why people don't vaccinate (all rubbish of course). It's not just the autism scare, there was also the controversy about the pertussis vaccine causing brain death. And then there's just the hippies moaning on about how they contain mercury and formaldehyde

 

[Alienfish]

There's actually quite a few reasons why people don't vaccinate (all rubbish of course). It's not just the autism scare, there was also the controversy about the pertussis vaccine causing brain death. And then there's just the hippies moaning on about how they contain mercury and formaldehyde

Well I'd rather be a fake hippie than getting diseases...

 

[lazuli]

people who dont vaccine are so dumb
like
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thats your kids life???????? not yours?????????/
why put them in danger bc of your strange ways of thinking

also this is funny (its from an episode of house)

[House walks away. Cut to the clinic and House is in an exam room with a young mother and her baby.]

Young Mother: No formula, just mommy’s healthy natural breast milk.

House: Yummy.

Young Mother: Her whole face just got swollen like this overnight.

House: Mmhmm. No fever, glands normal, missing her vaccination dates.

Young Mother: We’re not vaccinating.


Young Mother: [Takes a toy frog and starts to make frog sounds] Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit. [Giggles]

[Baby smiles and giggles too]

House: Think they don’t work?

Young Mother: I think some multinational pharmaceutical company wants me to think they work. Pad their bottom line.

House: Mmmm. May I? [He takes the frog and starts to do the gribbit noise with the baby]

Young Mother: [Whispered] Sure.

House: Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit. [The baby laughs] All natural no dyes. That’s a good business: all-natural children’s toys. Those toy companies, they don’t arbitrarily mark up their frogs. They don’t lie about how much they spend in research and development. The worst a toy company can be accused of is making a really boring frog.

[Young Mother laughs and so does House. The baby giggles again]

House: Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit. You know another really good business? Teeny tiny baby coffins. You can get them in frog green or fire engine red. Really. The antibodies in yummy mummy only protect the kid for 6 months, which is why these companies think they can gouge you. They think that you’ll spend whatever they ask to keep your kid alive. Want to change things? Prove them wrong. A few hundred parents like you decide they’d rather let their kid die then cough up 40 bucks for a vaccination, believe me, prices will drop REALLY fast. Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit, gribbit, gribbit.

Young Mother: Tell me what she has.

House: A cold.

[Cut to House leaving the clinic.]​

 

[Colour Bandit]

I think that parents should definitely make sure their kids have all the right vaccinations, my parents suffered a lot of backlash from friends and family as they made sure my brother and I had the MMR vaccine when there was all the fuss about it causing autism (load of rubbish) I'm glad my parents made sure we had the MMR vaccine as one of my mum's friends had a baby born a month after me, didn't have the vaccine and got measles, he passed away a few days later due to complications caused by it (he developed pneumonia which his parents didn't recognise)

But annoyed though as I have to have another MMR booster tomorrow, even though I was told last year I didn't need another one :/ Though I'm having a tetanus booster tomorrow as well since I help my mum with her horse. I'd rather go through feeling nervous about having a needle jabbed in me than actually catching a disease.

 

[Pietro:)100]

I honestly do not understand why (some) selfish people are against vaccines! When I was small i really didn't like them and screamed and screamed, but now I'm glad that my mum made me! If I didn't have a vaccine (even for small viruses) I could have still got Ill.
I think it's pretty selfish to not give your children vaccines, because they could pass the bug on to other children (that are too young for vaccines) and that wouldn't be very nice for the child or his/her parents.

 

[-Apples-]

Because apparently vaccinating your kids will cause Autism.

I don't see what's wrong with autism. I have ASD.

Giving vaccines will not always cause autism. That's to some cases. Some people say that it's occuring more often because they are being born too early.

In my opinion, I support vaccination because they did a good job on preventing deadly diseases.

 

[Alienfish]

I don't see what's wrong with autism. I have ASD.

Giving vaccines will not always cause autism. That's to some cases. Some people say that it's occuring more often because they are being born too early.

In my opinion, I support vaccination because they did a good job on preventing deadly diseases.

Nothing is wrong with having it, it's just stupid people who reads propaganda that are.

 

[Jeremy]

Vaccines are good and have generally improved society, but forcing people to get them would be immoral.

 

[Stalfos]

Haha! Seems pretty one-sided, huh? But in all fairness, we have to agnolish that all vaccines aren't perfect. Some have been known to have terrible side-effects. I'm not saying that vaccines are bad, quite the opposite. There are alot of vaccines tht need to be mandatory. Vaccination has saved countless of lives and will continue to do so.

Just don't discard the facts. Get educated.

 

[Brackets]

Giving vaccines will not always cause autism. That's to some cases.

Actually there's no evidence anywhere to suggest that vaccines EVER causes autism. The original paper was found to be full of holes and irresponsible research and was discredited from the Lancet.

 

[Cory]

If you don't have a vaccine for something dangerous in your area you are retarted, vaccines are one of the best things in medical research history

- - - Post Merge - - -

and everyone should be forced to get them. I don't another thing like the bubonic plague to happen

- - - Post Merge - - -

but hey another thing christians messed up, medical science

 

[Pietro:)100]

I think they should be compulsory, unless the person has any special (religious ext.) reasons to not have the vaccine. It would be bad to force them. In fact maybe not compulsory at all! Just really highly recommended?