ALERT! I'M SORRY BUT ALERT!

[jiojiop]

I don't know because I didn't look at how exactly the glitch works. I remember people saying the first duping glitch only worked with placeable items, but I'm not sure if it's still the case this time. As fish bait is a 1x1 item, and I don't have confirmation on how exactly the glitch works, I'm halting and avoiding trades.

Ahh, gotcha, that’s understandable, then! I’m not 100% sure either so I get wanting to be careful for now.

I just tried it and it didn't work with bait. In fact, it actually deleted 9 baits out of my 10 stack. I reset obviously. I know it also doesn't work with clothing, diys, nmt, material, fruits, etc.

I think it requires furniture - stuff you can't walk through.

 

[Tessie]

dang tbh i dupe but only to make the most out of my island so i can have more bells to build more infrastructure lol :< i dont do any trading whatsoever with anyone. i dont even care bout any villager except tutu who i already have.

 

[Sudsofsplash]

you know what earlier i was like "as long as ppl dont sell dupe items, its fine!" but now im just like, the new horizon economy is already in shambles, who cares, let it burn and fall! let those people get glitched rooms, it's their game! who cares! just don't buy items you know that could be duped! people have been talking about this for like a week, why do we even care? just warn player not to pay certain items that could be duped and warn ppl that the duping can glitch their rooms!
why is this a discussion that merits 10 pages of comments LOL like I feel like the point has been made, like why are we having moral discussions about animal crossing? at this point, it's just like....just avoid the dupers and warn people not to do it if they don't want a glitched room or possible save file corruption!

it's just i personally do not see why people continue talking about this. it's not the same as time travel which is a more grey area in the realm of cheating, duping is downright a form of cheating, so like....we know this, why are we still giving it a "moral" discussion? LOL

btw i am not trying to start an argument, i just am tired of seeing this thread appearing on the front page, ya know? like what more is there to be said LOLOL

 

[celesludenberg]

you know what earlier i was like "as long as ppl dont sell dupe items, its fine!" but now im just like, the new horizon economy is already in shambles, who cares, let it burn and fall! let those people get glitched rooms, it's their game! who cares! just don't buy items you know that could be duped! people have been talking about this for like a week, why do we even care? just warn player not to pay certain items that could be duped and warn ppl that the duping can glitch their rooms!
why is this a discussion that merits 10 pages of comments LOL like I feel like the point has been made, like why are we having moral discussions about animal crossing? at this point, it's just like....just avoid the dupers and warn people not to do it if they don't want a glitched room or possible save file corruption!

it's just i personally do not see why people continue talking about this. it's not the same as time travel which is a more grey area in the realm of cheating, duping is downright a form of cheating, so like....we know this, why are we still giving it a "moral" discussion? LOL

btw i am not trying to start an argument, i just am tired of seeing this thread appearing on the front page, ya know? like what more is there to be said LOLOL

I agree that now that everyone knows to avoid buying lucky cats, katanas etc now there isn’t really anything left to discuss. Everyone has different opinions so trying to convince everyone either way is pointless now. People are aware it’s a thing, most people know to not do it now and if someone continues to do it and mess up their game that’s on them.

 

[Raz]

you know what earlier i was like "as long as ppl dont sell dupe items, its fine!" but now im just like, the new horizon economy is already in shambles, who cares, let it burn and fall! let those people get glitched rooms, it's their game! who cares! just don't buy items you know that could be duped! people have been talking about this for like a week, why do we even care? just warn player not to pay certain items that could be duped and warn ppl that the duping can glitch their rooms!
why is this a discussion that merits 10 pages of comments LOL like I feel like the point has been made, like why are we having moral discussions about animal crossing? at this point, it's just like....just avoid the dupers and warn people not to do it if they don't want a glitched room or possible save file corruption!

it's just i personally do not see why people continue talking about this. it's not the same as time travel which is a more grey area in the realm of cheating, duping is downright a form of cheating, so like....we know this, why are we still giving it a "moral" discussion? LOL

btw i am not trying to start an argument, i just am tired of seeing this thread appearing on the front page, ya know? like what more is there to be said LOLOL

TTing is not a grey area in the realm of cheating. It is cheating by definition, just like duping. The fact that it became an accepted practice within the community doesn't change what it is.

One can argue it it's less harmful to the community than duping, and while I would agree that it is less harmful to the community than the current duping glitch (explicitly because said glitch can corrupt save data), both duping and TTing can harm the "economy" some people are so willing to protect; one by making items more available, decreasing their price as supply gets higher than the demand, and the other by making exclusive seasonal items available on the market way ahead of time, being sold for obscene amounts of money.

Notice that I don't care if you TT or dupe items, I just call both what they are: cheating, by definition of the word in gaming since the beginning.

 

[derg_tested]

We have dabbled into morals in this thread, lets look at the other side of the coin.

Some items are not just rare, they are region locked or hacked in. Said items go for 200+ or are sold on ebay. The only way to get them is to actually go strictly against the TOS by hacking your device. Even said dupers are purists when it comes to that.

I helped people by duping handmade crowns and selling them for a reasonable price. This helped people out and most even bought multiple - for family and friends.

I am strictly against exploitation. Overcharging for nobtainable is my definition of exploitation. Most people can't or won't hack their switch, so if a method that's ironically more moral than the alternatives makes it possible for everyone to get the item, I'm actually for it.

 

[Underneath The Stars]

i avoid trading aside from trading with my friends recently because it's hard to trust people, and in here, mostly DIY items or just turnips tbh.

while i think it's definitely bad that it's ruining the economy, i think it's a bit extreme that some of you are wishing people to have their saves corrupted by doing or trying this? i won't even wish that to my enemies. no matter how you spin it, it's nintendo's fault for overseeing this. anyone, literally ANYONE could have discovered this and would be surprised that they'll see a duplicated item in their house even when they are just redesigning furniture. do they deserve to suffer from nintendo's glitch? think about that.

the best we could do is just to warn people about this glitch, tell that it could potentially ruin their saved files, and avoid from trading potentially duped items. we are going nowhere talking about morals for PAGES about a game that is supposed to be relaxing and far from this conversation. "how do people even discover this?" it's actually fairly easy if you think about it. could happen just as when you're arranging furniture. from what was shared, it's actually scary to try this as things are floating around where it won't supposed to be.

of course people who are abusing this, sharing this on youtube for a wider audience, or selling their duped items should face some consequences, but that's a different topic. it should be reported for other reasons.

 

[AC-Kristin]

I'm personally not against TTing or Duping, I don't really care what others do with their games. I will say this though; I hope people don't end up with glitched rooms etc., and I hope people don't lose their saves because that would suck.

 

[DinoTown]

The problem with the "who cares as long as they don't bring it into the economy" is that the good portion of dupers are duping specifically to bring it into the economy. And as for wishing corruption onto those who attempt the glitch... for me, at least, it's less "wishing corruption on them" and more having an attitude of "here's what can happen if you do this, it's not fun, but you've been warned and I'm not exactly gonna stop you, if you get the bad stuff, it's your own fault, you knew what might happen before you did it".

 

[cheezu]

Well, if you watch until the end of his video you will see this Lucky Cat he's got that's kind of changing colors - it looks very heavily glitched to me. He said he'd make a separate video on just this cat.
I'm not sure if that's related to this specific glitch or something else.
To me spreading info about glitches that COULD potentially harm one's save files is still dangerous - especially since Abdallah has got a large following.
I think the "invisible" item thing could be game-breaking and, if not done properly, you could potentially be unable to decorate your rooms.
This actually bothers me more than the economy at this point.

 

[Misuzurin]

What's more concerning to me is that this post may have ten pages, but it also has 5 thousand views. What did you accomplish today has 50 pages and 10 thousand views. Let that sink in.

 

[Loreley]

and we still have no cloud saves
this is just getting ridiculous.

 

[Lisha]

Yikes, the guy who made that video is being so rude to people voicing their concerns about this glitch. I really do hope that this is fixed soon because I saw a few people say that they've managed to glitch sections of their house now with items they can't pick up. Surprised so many people are doing this, given how glitchy the game has been/despite the fact that we have no way to back up saves. Too risky, imo.

 

[thundershot]

Boy I’m glad my AC group doesn’t charge each other for anything. We all help each other out. “Hey, does anyone have a black sofa?” “Check your mail”. “Anyone have the blue phone box?” “Ordered. I’ll mail it to you tomorrow after I get it.” We don’t have concerns over money... we just help each other out. Hell, I keep a fossil warehouse with 300 fossils that people donate so we can help everyone get their museums done.

 

[Raz]

Well, if you watch until the end of his video you will see this Lucky Cat he's got that's kind of changing colors - it looks very heavily glitched to me. He said he'd make a separate video on just this cat.
I'm not sure if that's related to this specific glitch or something else.
To me spreading info about glitches that COULD potentially harm one's save files is still dangerous - especially since Abdallah has got a large following.
I think the "invisible" item thing could be game-breaking and, if not done properly, you could potentially be unable to decorate your rooms.
This actually bothers me more than the economy at this point.View attachment 256029

That's exactly my point. Look, I don't give a crap about the economy. I hate that people made it a thing in a game about sharing the common good within a community, and turned it into a capitalism simulator.

If people make desirable items more easily available (and consequentially, more accessible) either by TTing and/or duping, I don't see it as a bad thing at all, at least not until it can corrupt data and compromise other people's save files. This is the real problem with the duping cheat because there's no way of saying if an item was duped or not in most cases. People will buy or even receive these items as gifts without knowing they have a ticking time bomb in their hands.

 

[derg_tested]

That's exactly my point. Look, I don't give a crap about the economy. I hate that people made it a thing in a game about sharing the common good within a community, and turned it into a capitalism simulator.

If people make desirable items more easily available (and consequentially, more accessible) either by TTing and/or duping, I don't see it as a bad thing at all, at least not until it can corrupt data and compromise other people's save files. This is the real problem with the duping cheat because there's no way of saying if an item was duped or not in most cases. People will buy or even receive these items as gifts without knowing they have a ticking time bomb in their hands.

This whole post implies save files have been corrupted, with the direct cause being the recieving of a legitemate (i.e. not glitched, camo cat) item. If you are for the making rare items accessible, you should take a look at real documented cases of this happening.
There are none showing possesion of such item makes the data not writable or readable thereafter, let alone some dormant state. Said items aren't glitched eggs in pokemon, they maintain the stats of the original item, said item which doesn't have any identifier either.

 

[Tessie]

Yikes, the guy who made that video is being so rude to people voicing their concerns about this glitch. I really do hope that this is fixed soon because I saw a few people say that they've managed to glitch sections of their house now with items they can't pick up. Surprised so many people are doing this, given how glitchy the game has been/despite the fact that we have no way to back up saves. Too risky, imo.

nah..i can always fix up areas that seem broken from duping. it is true sometimes you cannot pick up items but if you just go into the furnishing mode (dunno how its called) and just put them in your storage and back out its good as new.
i personally havent really dealt with any complications from duping (yet?)....if you move tables around and then exit and re-enter the room that makes the invisible items re-appear too and your room is good as new.
(again im only doing this to do more infrastructure on my island and increase my house. no trading whatsoever!)

 

[Raz]

This whole post implies save files have been corrupted, with the direct cause being the recieving of a legitemate (i.e. not glitched, camo cat) item. If you are for the making rare items accessible, you should take a look at real documented cases of this happening.
There are none showing possesion of such item makes the data not writable or readable thereafter, let alone some dormant state. Said items aren't glitched eggs in pokemon, they maintain the stats of the original item, said item which doesn't have any identifier either.

If that were the case, people would end up with phantom items and void spots inside their houses.

There was a duping glitch in NL. It didn't have any harmful side effect to anyone's game. And although I didn't use the glitch (I don't even know how they do the trick), j also don't have a problem with it. If the duping glitch in NH was harmless like it was in NL, I wouldn't be against it.

 

[Mello]

I really couldn't care less if people dupe, TT, save edit to add items in or any other form of cheating. More items circulating in the game makes it easier for me to get what I want if I feel like it.

On another note...

People's save files aren't being damaged by receiving duped items; relax people. Receiving a duped item is registered no differently by the game than receiving a legitimate item. It's the same thing, same item identifier; nothing whatsoever is different in terms of the data.

Your save file can be damaged due to a number of things, but not duped or items put into the game by a save editor. Saves are being corrupted due to closing the game while loading/saving, multiplayer autosave issue desynchronization, and those who run CFW on their switches.

Lastly...

Nintendo won't ban you for duping or receiving duped items.

 

[Raz]

I really couldn't care less if people dupe, TT, save edit to add items in or any other form of cheating. More items circulating in the game makes it easier for me to get what I want if I feel like it.

On another note...

People's save files aren't being damaged by receiving duped items; relax people. Receiving a duped item is registered no differently by the game than receiving a legitimate item. It's the same thing, same item identifier; nothing whatsoever is different in terms of the data.

Your save file can be damaged due to a number of things, but not duped or items put into the game by a save editor. Saves are being corrupted due to closing the game while loading/saving, multiplayer autosave issue desynchronization, and those who run CFW on their switches.

As you already know by my previous posts, I completely agree with your first paragraph.

If the rest of your post is true, and this isn't different than what happened in NL, then the only people who need to worry about duping are those who are trying to "save" an economy that shouldn't even exist in the first place.