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We're doomed.

I hate them both with a fiery passion, but at least Hillary isn't constantly making fun of others and at least she has basic morals.

Also please nobody aggressively fight me over this I'm to exhausted thank
 
I'm pretty middle ground on everything when it comes to politics. I tend to lean more Democratically, but there are oftentimes a lot of things I disagree with within that party. I don't like any candidate, not even Evan McMullin, whom everyone in my state loves. I think Gary Johnson is sketchy and that Jill Stein is kind of crazy. Clinton isn't completely trustworthy, but at least she treats human beings with respect. I will never vote for Donald Trump. He makes me ashamed of being American as well as just a human being in general. While he and McMullin have a better chance at winning my state's electoral votes, I'm voting my conscience and voting for Hillary. This is my first election, and while I wish I could be a dreamer and vote for McMullin because he's "better" than the main party candidates, I don't think he has a chance. That said, I think Hillary is a fundamentally better person than Donald, even if she's made a lot of mistakes.
 
donald trump biography
DONALD J. TRUMP
Chairman and President, The Trump Organization

Donald J. Trump is the very definition of the American success story, continually setting the standards of excellence while expanding his interests in real estate, sports, and entertainment. He is the archetypal businessman –– a deal maker without peer.

Mr. Trump started his business career in an office he shared with his father in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn, New York. He worked with his father for five years, where they were busy making deals together. Mr. Trump has been quoted as saying, “"My father was my mentor, and I learned a tremendous amount about every aspect of the construction industry from him.”" Likewise, Fred C. Trump often stated that “"some of my best deals were made by my son, Donald...everything he touches seems to turn to gold.”" Mr. Trump then entered the very different world of Manhattan real estate.

In New York City and around the world, the Trump signature is synonymous with the most prestigious of addresses. Among them are the world-renowned Fifth Avenue skyscraper, Trump Tower, and the luxury residential buildings, Trump Parc, Trump Palace, Trump Plaza, 610 Park Avenue, The Trump World Tower (the tallest building on the East Side of Manhattan), and Trump Park Avenue. Mr. Trump was also responsible for the designation and construction of the Jacob Javits Convention Center on land controlled by him, known as the West 34th Street Railroad Yards, and the total exterior restoration of the Grand Central Terminal as part of his conversion of the neighboring Commodore Hotel into the Grand Hyatt Hotel. The development is considered one of the most successful restorations in the City and earned Mr. Trump an award from Manhattan’'s Community Board Five for the "“tasteful and creative recycling of a distinguished hotel."” Over the years, Mr. Trump has owned and sold many great buildings in New York including the Plaza Hotel (which he renovated and brought back to its original grandeur, as heralded by the New York Times Magazine), the St. Moritz Hotel (three times and now called the Ritz Carlton on Central Park South) and until 2002, the land under the Empire State Building (which allowed the land and lease to be merged together for the first time in over 50 years).

Additionally, the NikeTown store is owned by Mr. Trump, on East 57th Street and adjacent to Tiffany's. In early 2008, Gucci opened their largest store in the world in Trump Tower.

In 1997, the Trump International Hotel & Tower opened its doors to the world. This 52 story mixed–use super luxury hotel and residential building is located on the crossroads of Manhattan's West Side, on Central Park West at Columbus Circle. It was designed by the world-famous architect, Philip Johnson, and has achieved some of the highest sales prices and rentals in the United States. As one of only three hotels in the nation to have received a double Forbes Five-Star rating for both the hotel and its restaurant, Jean-Georges, it has also received the Five Star Diamond Award from the American Academy of Hospitality Sciences, and was voted the number one business hotel in New York City by Travel + Leisure Magazine. Conde Nast Traveler Magazine has named it the number one hotel in the US, and its innovative concept has been copied worldwide. It has won the Forbes Five-Star Hotel Award each year from 2009 to 2015 and ranked in the Conde Nast Traveler "Readers' Choice" awards every year since 2010. This year marks the eighteenth anniversary of this Trump Hotel Collection gem.

Mr. Trump was also the developer of the largest parcel of land in New York City, the former West Side Rail Yards which is now Trump Place. On this 100 acre property, fronting along the Hudson River from 59th Street to 72nd Street, is the largest development ever approved by the New York City Planning Commission. There are a total of 16 buildings on the site, with Mr. Trump building the first nine buildings and the other portion of land being sold for a substantial amount. Mr. Trump also donated a 25 acre waterfront park on Trump Place and a 700 foot sculptured pier to the city of New York.

Other acquisitions in New York City include The Trump Building at 40 Wall Street, the landmark 1.3 million square foot, 72-story building located in Manhattan's Financial District, directly across from the New York Stock Exchange and the tallest building in downtown Manhattan. This purchase, which took place at the depths of the New York City real estate market, is said to be one of the best real estate deals made in the last twenty-five years and is considered to have one of the most beautiful "Tops" of any building in the country. In addition, Mr. Trump built 610 Park Avenue (at 64th Street), formerly known as the Mayfair Regent Hotel, which was very successfully converted into super-luxury condominium apartments achieving, at that time, the highest prices on Park Avenue. Further east, adjacent to the United Nations, sits the spectacular Trump World Tower, a 90-story luxury residential building and one of the tallest residential towers in the world. The Trump World Tower has received rave reviews from the architectural critics, with Herbert Muschamp of the New York Times calling it "a handsome hunk of a glass tower." Likewise, Trump World Tower is considered one of the most successful condominium towers ever built in the United States.

In 2001, Mr. Trump announced plans for his first foray into Chicago, where he planned to build the Trump International Hotel & Tower/Chicago. The 2.7 million square foot, 92-story mixed-use tower is located on the banks of the Chicago River, directly west of Michigan Avenue (the most prominent site in Chicago), and is one of the tallest residences in the world and the ninth tallest building in the world. The architect is Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, Chicago, and the tower also includes four levels of retail shops. The hotel opened in January of 2008 to great acclaim, and in 2010 received Travel + Leisure Magazine's award as the #1 Hotel in the US and Canada as well as their "World's Best Business Hotel" Award in 2014. Conde Nast Traveler ranked the hotel in its "Readers' Choice Awards" every year since 2011. The hotel has earned Five-Star ratings for hotel and restaurant in the Forbes Travel Guide Awards in 2014 and 2015, and has been a AAA Five Diamond Hotel award winner since 2011.
 
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What ever happened to Colonel Sanders? He was a pretty decent candidate. Also what about all of those 3rd parties out there? Maybe not the Libertarian one this time... But still. We aren't stuck with just two awful people. If voters were more knowledgeable about voting, we wouldn't have to have EITHER evils as our candidate. It isn't just "either-or".
 
What ever happened to Colonel Sanders? He was a pretty decent candidate. Also what about all of those 3rd parties out there? Maybe not the Libertarian one this time... But still. We aren't stuck with just two awful people. If voters were more knowledgeable about voting, we wouldn't have to have EITHER evils as our candidate. It isn't just "either-or".

Jill Stein isn't great though IMO.
 
I'm not pleased with either of them. I really wish we could start the election cycle over.
 
I can't say my opinion? Does anyone remember a free country?

I don't know if you haven't noticed but America isn't the land of the free anymore, there has also NEVER been liberty and justice for all. America is 11 in economic freedom, 31 in personal freedom, and 20 in human freedom.

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The U.S. isn't doomed. Calm down.

Yes it is.
 
I can't say my opinion? Does anyone remember a free country?

America has never been a free place to state opinions in a rude or offensive manner, at least without a backlash. That's exactly what you're doing. You still have freedom, but immaturity is always frowned upon.

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I don't know if you haven't noticed but America isn't the land of the free anymore, there has also NEVER been liberty and justice for all. America is 11 in economic freedom, 31 in personal freedom, and 20 in human freedom.

Let's not get too cynical about it. Most of our freedoms may have gone away, but whatever is taking away our freedoms is gonna fail. Obamacare is imploding, people are already rebelling against political correctness, people no longer have respect in our government because of corrupt bureaucracies, and people have lost respect in the media over their lies. We're already at the start of this phase.

Yes it is.

I am more prepared for a third term of George Bush's presidency than either of these two winning.
 
Your country was doomed a long time ago.
Your country will never be great, in fact no country has ever been great and will never great.

Its sad really.
 
Be aware that your feeble government is controlled by a newborn baby and a frail elderly lady.

Anyways, I'm not voting for Trump nor Hilary, I'm voting for the meteor that decimates our planet.

2016: Just end it already...

Be aware that that Queen Elizabeth II and Princess Charlotte have little power over the country.

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But the thing is Trump didn't serve as a secretary of state and was the congresswoman of a state she was she's been deep in this corruption for year which affects America
Trump being rude and overall a asshat won't affect your life like it haven't been for years

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How can you please explain?

I don't think that you can think about things well, or you're just ignoring what's going on in the world.

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:rolleyes: lol ok



Yeah hon good luck with Brexit lmao



I don't think you get how global politics works.



I think you get how global politics works.



Calm down.



You get it :)



Bill be lookin' for all the new interns.



I think that says something a LOT about the modern Republican party being BAT**** CRAZY.



like who

I think that guy in Finland might be fine, it's very peaceful there, and since when do American politics talk about Finland, pretty much never.
 
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What ever happened to Colonel Sanders? He was a pretty decent candidate. Also what about all of those 3rd parties out there? Maybe not the Libertarian one this time... But still. We aren't stuck with just two awful people. If voters were more knowledgeable about voting, we wouldn't have to have EITHER evils as our candidate. It isn't just "either-or".

Know what happened to Sanders? Hillary rigged the election against him, that's what happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv_a24sF84Q&ab_channel=Itzmoe'NStuff (video on it)
http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-email-leak-exposes-bias/ (sources)
http://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-dnc-emails-wikileaks-2016-7#
 
I think that guy in Finland might be fine, it's very peaceful there, and since when do American politics talk about Finland, pretty much never.
The election result will have an effect on us but I wouldn't go as far as to say that we're doomed just because a bad candidate will get elected in the US. That doesn't equal WW3 or a worldwide recession or anything else that would inevitably make us 'doomed'. Sure, the new elect could potentially mess things up but we don't know that yet and I don't think that exaggerating their future effect will bring any good at this point.
 
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We've had worse. We elected Bush. Twice.

Actually Bush didn't even get the most votes.

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Sounds like the U.S. Government.

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...That's insane, you actually would support George fricking Bush? (jr not sr)

Yes, I support George Bush over both Trump and Clinton. I even support him over FDR (but not over Truman). The thing here is that Obama ruined our nation much more than Buchanan (he didn't even start the war) and Hoover (it was the attitudes of Americans in the 20's that lead to the depression). We are more divided than we were during the Civil War. Obamacare was a socialist principle, and most forms of socialism (including socialized medicine) is bad for America. Of course I would support the presidents hated by liberals more than socialists like Obama. Of course I would support the current Republicans in power over the liberal commoners in America (except for a couple of TBT liberals and those who were my good friends). But even Bush wasn't a good president. So I wouldn't support Bush more than half the presidents, but I do support him over FDR and LBJ, whom I have more respect for than all of the post-Nixon Democrats and the two people running for president this year.
 
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