Do you approve of the job the President of the United States is doing?

Do approve of the job President Trump is currently doing?


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My pet apples really hate Trump. They hated his immigration ban, the "alternative facts" thing, and his plans to build a wall. Yes, they care a lot about what people do. And it appears that Trump got a 0% approval rating and 100% disapproval rating among all of my apples.

I'm constantly torn between "you need 2 more apples at top for 12 top and bottom" and "it's perfectly aligned with avatar, so 10 is fine"

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I'm not asking you to do anything. Twisting things?

You're basically saying nobody can oppose things he does or will do, which spoilers: yes they can

effectiveness of the opposition is another matter, but there's nothing saying people just have to take **** as it comes
 
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You're basically saying nobody can oppose things he does or will do, which spoilers: yes they can

effectiveness of the opposition is another matter, but there's nothing saying people just have to take **** as it comes

Right but there's also throwing a tantrum that the president won't care about and actively oppose vs understanding where he's coming from, respecting that, and appealing your point of view in a reasonable way.

*Edit : Peaceful protesting is fine. But when property is being destroyed, roads are being obstructed without sufficient notice - I get that people want to protest where they're going to be seen, but the average Joe should be able to avoid that and get where he needs to go - it really only hurts the protesters. Average Joe doesn't care about what the protester has to say - and usually won't be thinking "thank god I was late to work today so people I don't disagree with can yell at me".
 
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Right but there's also throwing a tantrum that the president won't care about and actively oppose vs understanding where he's coming from, respecting that, and appealing your point of view in a reasonable way.

he's coming from narcissistic hatred, I understand that completely. and no, that does not deserve any level of respect

and lmao "appealing in a reasonable way".... so like slide a couple trillion dollars under his desk? pray tell how you "appeal" to someone that clearly refuses to listen in the first place
 
he's coming from narcissistic hatred, I understand that completely. and no, that does not deserve any level of respect

and lmao "appealing in a reasonable way".... so like slide a couple trillion dollars under his desk? pray tell how you "appeal" to someone that clearly refuses to listen in the first place

I don't think that's true at all. I see a lot of attacks against him based on something like "he's sexist, he's homophobic, he's ectphobic" whatever. If you come to the table with "I think this is a bad idea because x, and then support x with your own research, people on both sides are much more open.

Seeing people as, what they are (again IMO), imperfect people who just want a little understanding, you can have a much larger effect.

Take the recent airport protest for example. Instead of protesting in a place that doesn't effect "normal" people/the Average Joe (I've seen both of sides to this; One says they need to be seen and another says they are only making normal people inconvenienced and so it doesn't matter) the message will be a lot more powerful. If you want me to clarify more I'd be happy to do so. But the Average Joe looks out for him/herself. Anyone who throws a wrench in that, even if it's "morally superior", is only hurting themselves, because the Average Joe can and should effect the election results, since as much as we'd like to think we're special, most if not all of us are the "average joe" looking out for their own interests.
 
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Right but there's also throwing a tantrum that the president won't care about and actively oppose vs understanding where he's coming from, respecting that, and appealing your point of view in a reasonable way.

*Edit : Peaceful protesting is fine. But when property is being destroyed, roads are being obstructed without sufficient notice - I get that people want to protest where they're going to be seen, but the average Joe should be able to avoid that and get where he needs to go - it really only hurts the protesters. Average Joe doesn't care about what the protester has to say - and usually won't be thinking "thank god I was late to work today so people I don't disagree with can yell at me".

Not to mention it's stupid when protesters cause disruption in major cities where about 90% of the population already hates Trump.
 
Not to mention it's stupid when protesters cause disruption in major cities where about 90% of the population already hates Trump.

Another thing they were doing wrong was that they were saying stuff like "Not my president" in their protests. It's okay to hate Trump. It's fine, because not only everyone has the right to have an opinion, but also Trump is a bully. Even if he does a good job (which many would say he wouldn't), he's still a bully. But to reject his presidency like saying "not my president" or censoring history to keep him out of the legacy, that is blatant immaturity. They can hate Trump, but they need to accept the fact that he is president and the fact that people voted him in. And like what some people say, they should not block highways, assault people, or vandalize property. All of that is against the law, and such aggressive behavior increases stress, which is bad for the heart.

Not once have I said that Obama isn't my president. Not once have I got into a fight with someone for simply liking Obama (in fact, I got along with a couple of people who were fans of him). Not once have I threatened to leave because Obama got elected. But the anti-Trump people are doing the opposite. And they're acting childish about it. They just couldn't accept his presidency. They rioted and protested. They threatened electors to not vote for him. Some government officials boycotted his presidency, saying that he wasn't legit. And more recently, some people think the presidential legacy was forever tainted. There's even petitions to not have Trump appear in Disney's Hall of Presidents. Like I said, it's okay to hate him, but you need to respect the office and the legacy no matter who gets the spot. And whether or not you want to censor history, you can't change history. That's what these anti-Trump people are failing to understand.
 
Another thing they were doing wrong was that they were saying stuff like "Not my president" in their protests. It's okay to hate Trump. It's fine, because not only everyone has the right to have an opinion, but also Trump is a bully. Even if he does a good job (which many would say he wouldn't), he's still a bully. But to reject his presidency like saying "not my president" or censoring history to keep him out of the legacy, that is blatant immaturity. They can hate Trump, but they need to accept the fact that he is president and the fact that people voted him in. And like what some people say, they should not block highways, assault people, or vandalize property. All of that is against the law, and such aggressive behavior increases stress, which is bad for the heart.

Not once have I said that Obama isn't my president. Not once have I got into a fight with someone for simply liking Obama (in fact, I got along with a couple of people who were fans of him). Not once have I threatened to leave because Obama got elected. But the anti-Trump people are doing the opposite. And they're acting childish about it. They just couldn't accept his presidency. They rioted and protested. They threatened electors to not vote for him. Some government officials boycotted his presidency, saying that he wasn't legit. And more recently, some people think the presidential legacy was forever tainted. There's even petitions to not have Trump appear in Disney's Hall of Presidents. Like I said, it's okay to hate him, but you need to respect the office and the legacy no matter who gets the spot. And whether or not you want to censor history, you can't change history. That's what these anti-Trump people are failing to understand.

Yeah, there's no changing the fact that Trump is the 45th president. People are going to have to work with that reality. We don't know how his presidency will turn out only 2 weeks in, so it's hard to speculate on what his legacy will be. I think most Americans would agree that he hasn't gotten off to a very good start. If Trump keeps going down the rabbit hole, then people will have to decide how he will be remembered. We won't be able to erase him or scrub him from the history books, but it's possible that he won't be honored like other presidents with portraits, statues, monuments, a library, etc. if he comes to represent a dark period in American history. There's nothing stopping Trump from coming to his senses and acting like a normal president, but I'd say it's a coin flip at this point and if it lands on tails, then Trump will be remembered as a massive mistake in American history and won't get much more than pages written about him in history textbooks.
 
He's keeping his campaign promises, folks!

Prepare for 8 years, not just 4!

#Trump2020
 
Yeah, there's no changing the fact that Trump is the 45th president. People are going to have to work with that reality. We don't know how his presidency will turn out only 2 weeks in, so it's hard to speculate on what his legacy will be. I think most Americans would agree that he hasn't gotten off to a very good start. If Trump keeps going down the rabbit hole, then people will have to decide how he will be remembered. We won't be able to erase him or scrub him from the history books, but it's possible that he won't be honored like other presidents with portraits, statues, monuments, a library, etc. if he comes to represent a dark period in American history. There's nothing stopping Trump from coming to his senses and acting like a normal president, but I'd say it's a coin flip at this point and if it lands on tails, then Trump will be remembered as a massive mistake in American history and won't get much more than pages written about him in history textbooks.

My friends IRL are trying to make it seem like Bernie Sanders is the president, but he's not.
 
My friends IRL are trying to make it seem like Bernie Sanders is the president, but he's not.

That's outrageous... if they're being serious.

Now... playing around, I can understand.
 
with the amount of resistance he's getting, I can't imagine there will be any joking around for 2020

"Fact-checkers", "analysts", "pollsters" have been proven wrong before.

The silent majority has spoke. I think if he does as he promised to do and keeps his aggression down, he will have a 2nd term.
 
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"Fact-checkers", "analysts", "pollsters" have been proven wrong before.

The silent majority has spoke. I think if he does as he promised to do and keeps his aggression down, he will have a 2nd term.

Unless someone like Bernie runs. I think if it was Donald Trump VS Bernie Trump would likely lose.
 
Unless someone like Bernie runs. I think if it was Donald Trump VS Bernie Trump would likely lose.

Bernie wouldn't do so well.

I believe he's older than Trump or around the same age. Age is always a factor.

No republican would vote for him basically. He has socialist aspects.

The democratic party screwed him over. What makes you think they won't again?

It's unlikely for a person that ran once, run a second time and win. Mitt Romney. Rick Perry. Hillary Clinton.
 
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