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The Future

Um... Why would we want to prevent it? :/

There is no reason why. I was just saying that even if we try to prevent happenings of any kind (good or bad), it's still going to happen sometime. Let's say that you went back in time and helped the South win the civil war. Slavery would still become illegal even if the South won (i'm glad that it's illegal today). Also, can you stop the impending earthquake from hitting California? No, that's uncontrollable. Just saying, even if you don't believe in the prophecies, they may happen whether you take action of any sort.

that's kind of interesting because religion (and the arguments surrounding it) shaped most of european history, so I wonder what an age of non-religion will be like. What would people get into squabbles over then??

I agree that it's interesting that Europe is trying to get away with religion, despite an even larger history of religion than the United States (as well as two of their holy sites). It's kinda like America becoming communist/socialist even when we had a time when communists were being persecuted for their beliefs or New York becoming the most repressed state in the US when it used to be the center of freedom.

Religion certainly done harm in the past. The Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Expulsion from Portugal, the Israel Palestine Conflict, 9/11, the conflict in the Middle East, and the censorship of South Park all prove this point. But I don't believe in ditching my faith because of that. Nothing is perfect, whether if it's on the good side or the bad side. Radical Atheists are just as bad, and if they try to spread like how the Crusades and the early spread of Islam did, that adds another issue to religious conflict. The only way it won't cause conflict is if people can get along with different opinions. But trying to ban religion because of the history of conflict is like banning sports because of sports fans arguing over the best team or banning TV shows, movies, or video games because of the forum wars that are based on opinions. People will always fight over different opinions, no matter what. That's why I'm not converting to atheism.

One country that religion is more unlikely to fade away from is Israel. It was a major holy site for all three Abrahamic religions. Yes, America may go next, or it can be preserved in some areas while the others are gone.
 
I agree that it's interesting that Europe is trying to get away with religion, despite an even larger history of religion than the United States (as well as two of their holy sites). It's kinda like America becoming communist/socialist even when we had a time when communists were being persecuted for their beliefs or New York becoming the most repressed state in the US when it used to be the center of freedom.

Religion certainly done harm in the past. The Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Expulsion from Portugal, the Israel Palestine Conflict, 9/11, the conflict in the Middle East, and the censorship of South Park all prove this point. But I don't believe in ditching my faith because of that. Nothing is perfect, whether if it's on the good side or the bad side. Radical Atheists are just as bad, and if they try to spread like how the Crusades and the early spread of Islam did, that adds another issue to religious conflict. The only way it won't cause conflict is if people can get along with different opinions. But trying to ban religion because of the history of conflict is like banning sports because of sports fans arguing over the best team or banning TV shows, movies, or video games because of the forum wars that are based on opinions. People will always fight over different opinions, no matter what. That's why I'm not converting to atheism.

One country that religion is more unlikely to fade away from is Israel. It was a major holy site for all three Abrahamic religions. Yes, America may go next, or it can be preserved in some areas while the others are gone.

please.. I deleted my post OTL
 
People have been predicting the end since the beginning of time...
Change is happening just not as fast as anyone wants it to go. Technology is also advancing so... I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

Anyway, here's a list of dates predicted for apocalyptic events: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

So, maybe we'll somehow make it to a billion years later only to be destroyed by the Sun... or we get hit by a meteor in the next five minutes.
 
People have been predicting the end since the beginning of time...
Change is happening just not as fast as anyone wants it to go. Technology is also advancing so... I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

Anyway, here's a list of dates predicted for apocalyptic events: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

So, maybe we'll somehow make it to a billion years later only to be destroyed by the Sun... or we get hit by a meteor in the next five minutes.

global warming gonna get us 1st tho
 
Wonder how important a person has to be for an apocalypse prediction to be taken seriously??
 
I kinda hope the world ends sometime during my lifespan. Just so I could see it before I die.
 
But do we really want to prevent it?

My distaste for religion as a concept aside, if religion went away then so would a hell of a lot of other significant issues.

The bible also 'predicts' everything. It's written in such a way that it can 'predict' pretty much anything you want it to, yet not actually predict anything. The same thing as 'spiritual mediums' use to contact the dead. Yano, where they ask a bunch of really vague questions that could mean almost anything and let you fill in the blanks for them.

Although, the Bible is, if not the most, one of the most historical accurate primary sources we have of history. Obviously predictions of the future are sometimes broad (although not all of them are that broad in the case of the Bible), but the Bible had ancient civilizations in it that we didn't have evidence of until the 1900s. For example, the Hittites, which anti-theists used for the purpose of saying the Bible was historically inaccurate (because there was no evidence of them existing), suddenly were found and it further proves the historical accuracies of the Bible.
You can always argue that the Bible has contradictions, but a few years passed down through history obviously amounts to nothing but human error.
If you want a discussion on why I believe in the events of the Bible further, feel free to message me.
 
People have been predicting the end since the beginning of time...
Change is happening just not as fast as anyone wants it to go. Technology is also advancing so... I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

Anyway, here's a list of dates predicted for apocalyptic events: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

So, maybe we'll somehow make it to a billion years later only to be destroyed by the Sun... or we get hit by a meteor in the next five minutes.

I know this is all over, but I'm still hung onto the 2012 subject. It may not be the end of the world, but the world sure has gotten a lot worse since. Intensifying war in the Middle East, racial riots, deterioration of political correctness, and government overstepping their bounds (ie Michelle Obama school lunches) has happened since. But the world was equally bad the whole time since the 1st century (or even earlier). We may be more technologically advanced, more humane, and more sanitary, but we got a lot worse in a lot other ways.
 
I hate religion. The only one I can personally tolerate is Buddhism. I don't hate religious people, but I do hate religion. I know hate is a strong word, but I can't stand the harm it causes people.
 
I hate religion. The only one I can personally tolerate is Buddhism. I don't hate religious people, but I do hate religion. I know hate is a strong word, but I can't stand the harm it causes people.

Blaming religion for harming people is like blaming a gun for shooting someone. It's not the religion, it's the people.
 
Blaming religion for harming people is like blaming a gun for shooting someone. It's not the religion, it's the people.

No, I think religion is responsible. The way it is interpreted is a big part of it, of course, but if religion didn't exist, there wouldn't be as many gays committing suicide or as many innocent people getting beheaded in foreign countries. You can't compare stories to weapons. A story can't kill, you must remember.
 
No, I think religion is responsible. The way it is interpreted is a big part of it, of course, but if religion didn't exist, there wouldn't be as many gays committing suicide or as many innocent people getting beheaded in foreign countries. You can't compare stories to weapons. A story can't kill, you must remember.

I agree with Trundle here, but we need to get back on topic. I only brought up religion since there was a future prediction about it fading. I didn't want to start an argument.

Anyway, back to the autonomous cars. What do you think when you hear about the driverless cars? Do you think it's good, or scary? I would find it an advantage since it could prevent car accidents, but there are other problems related to it.
 
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I know this is all over, but I'm still hung onto the 2012 subject. It may not be the end of the world, but the world sure has gotten a lot worse since. Intensifying war in the Middle East, racial riots, deterioration of political correctness, and government overstepping their bounds (ie Michelle Obama school lunches) has happened since. But the world was equally bad the whole time since the 1st century (or even earlier). We may be more technologically advanced, more humane, and more sanitary, but we got a lot worse in a lot other ways.

pretty sure public schools are run by government entities, which means they have a say in whether they want to keep feeding kids really fatty unhealthy foods or not lol.

as for the rest of your post, uhh no. they have no correlation with each other. reasoning could be that as social media progresses so does the rate at which we are informed of what's going on around the world. bad things have happened in this world for as long as mankind has existed, there isn't really any substance behind saying we're "getting worse" as time progresses.
 
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I can see it now... Chrome! Chrome everywhere!

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This was it, this was why I made this thread.

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I like to watch those horrifying animatron videos, where it's all the robots people build for movies and stuff, just without their skin on, and I am pretty sure that's what we have to look forward too. I will sit silently when the robots overthrow, in a room with headphones on, listening to Regina Spektor's Machine on repeat...
 
No, I think religion is responsible. The way it is interpreted is a big part of it, of course, but if religion didn't exist, there wouldn't be as many gays committing suicide or as many innocent people getting beheaded in foreign countries. You can't compare stories to weapons. A story can't kill, you must remember.

I'm really sorry you don't have the capacity to understand logic in arguments but as far as it goes, a gun nor a story alone can not kill anyone. It's the way someone uses them that is really what can kill or harm. There will always be extremists to any kind of group, whether or not it is religion.
 
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