Your Beliefs!

[Danielkang2]

Are you aware the dinosaurs coming before us is the kind youre talking about? There has been COUNTLESS new fish found. You're quoting the bible in an argument that has been proven by scientists.

First off science CANNOT prove anything. There are no absolutes in science. So everyone that says whatever they're talking about was made PROVEN FACT by science is wrong. Please tell me which statement you're dinosaur argument is about.

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I feel very bad for all the horrible things that had happened to your family and I understand why you are hardened on the topic of religion... You feel that religion has done you no good but harm... But the ill giving fact is this world is corrupted and we don't see the whole picture. God does. Your mother and grandmother are very honorable people and from what I see I think that they are devoted christians. God is righteous. I've seen many missionaries who have died to spread the faith and help people in need... But if there was a god who was righteous and true which I believe I am sure that your grandmothers are in eternal paradise with god himself but if there is no god there would have been no meaning to the acts that your grandmothers and the millions of people have done. It would have been for nothing.
Accepting god is a choice, and your grandmothers have accepted and went to the point of death to serve our loving god. Know that your grandmothers dieing of cancer was not because god did not love them.

"The wonderful thing is that, even though in this life on the cursed earth we are subject to diseases like cancer, we have hope. Psalm 103 has a wonderful passage that gives us a confident assurance that there will be an end to the ills of this world. Psalm 103:1–4 says, “Praise the LORD, O my soul; all my inmost being, praise his holy name. Praise the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits—who forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases, who redeems your life from the pit and crowns you with love and compassion.”

Does this passage mean that we are guaranteed that God will heal us of cancer or other diseases in this life? No, that is not the meaning of this passage. Rather, the same God who forgives us our sin will one day bring us to a place He has prepared for us (Matthew 25:34). His redemption preserves us from destruction, and then there will be no more curse and no more disease and no more death, and we will be forever crowned with His goodness and grace. The final victory over the curse of sin is already ours in Christ."
http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-cancer.html#ixzz3JkwZVKOd
This is another very good source. http://www.gotquestions.org/God-allow-sickness.html
Your mothers knew there was a worthwhile cause that was worth the blood, toil, tears and sweat they have gone through and saw what was after death. I respect them very much...

 

[unravel]

I expect for war about religion again

 

[#1 Senpai]

First off science CANNOT prove anything. There are no absolutes in science. So everyone that says whatever they're talking about was made PROVEN FACT by science is wrong. Please tell me which statement you're dinosaur argument is about.

Uhh, I don't think so..
"3. There is no question that moon rotates around the earth and earth around the sun. "
"9. Whereas certain diseases are caused by viruses, some others are caused by
bacteria."
Science can prove things. lol

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I expect for war about religion again

me 2.

 

[Danielkang2]

Uhh, I don't think so..
"3. There is no question that moon rotates around the earth and earth around the sun. "
"9. Whereas certain diseases are caused by viruses, some others are caused by
bacteria."
Science can prove things. lol

Number 3 people believed for sure that it was a geocentric model
There are no absolutes in science.
http://tech.mit.edu/V113/N6/king.06o.html

 

[Lio Fotia]

I think at this point, Daniel is just grasping at straws and it's best to ignore him at this point because such blind faith to the point of ignoring the basics of life are, at this point, hilarity. I mean, if dinosaurs didn't exist, then how do we have petrol? I mean, the proof is all around us and if someone will ignore facts for a book older than all of us, and then only follow just a small portion of said book, then they are beyond help, and will refuse reason and science. What he fails to seem to understand is the his reasons and words are the reason a lot of people have turned their back on the faith and on the people who follow it. It's almost a cult like adoration, and it's beyond help.

God works in mysterious ways, what Daniel has yet to consider, which I did back when I was christian, is that maybe science is how God works things and that the people who wrote the bible described everything as best as they could, with their limited understanding of what they saw and what they were shown. I dunno, but I do know at this point arguing with such blindness is like throwing a pie at a wall and expecting a hole to appear. It won't happen.

This is the last post I will post here, but I need to say-- continuing to engage a zealot will do nothing but cause needless strife and a religion war no one wants here.

EDIT: Besides someone who has to copy/paste their arguments from other websites has no real argument, especially when they use advanced physics in their arguments that goes against their religion from an article posted in 2012. Needless to say, he's arming himself blindly and not really understanding his arguments himself. Besides. he's 12. What he says now and what he'll say in ten years when he starts to experience the real world for a change very well might change. Pay him no heed.

 

[Danielkang2]

I never said dinosaurs didn't exist...

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If none of what I say is any influence to anyone then there is no reason for me to post anymore thanks.

 

[NikkiNikki]

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I have try my best not to post on here, but Daniel please, just stop and get an understanding of science and the word of God before you start posting. Just stop.

Also Callaway, You have an amazing mother and grandmother God bless their souls; they have my respect. <3

 

[Bowie]

I never said dinosaurs didn't exist...

Well, of course they don't exist. Science can't prove anything, right?

 

[Danielkang2]

Well, of course they don't exist. Science can't prove anything, right?

I said there are no absolutes as scientific theorys will always change and the things we are sure of this day and age will change when time goes on.

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You should say Dinosaurs "may" exist.

 

[Bowie]

You should say Dinosaurs "may" exist.

There are skeletons, honey. The existence of dinosaurs isn't a theory.

 

[Danielkang2]

There are skeletons, honey. The existence of dinosaurs isn't a theory.

Anything that we take to be true is revisable
All truths are a matter of opinion
Truth is relative
There is nothing more to truth than what we are willing to assert as true

 

[Bowie]

Anything that we take to be true is revisable
All truths are a matter of opinion
Truth is relative
There is nothing more to truth than what we are willing to assert as true

You're right. I'm going to go to a graveyard and dig everyone up and call the skeletons a matter of opinion.

 

[Danielkang2]

Ok

 

[M O L K O]

You're right. I'm going to go to a graveyard and dig everyone up and call the skeletons a matter of opinion.

tbt has no chill tonight and I ****in love it.

OT: I dunno how the thread got derail to dinos but my belief is that the land after time was v sad.

 

[#1 Senpai]

Ok

I thought you have no reason to post, yet here you are. lol

 

[JellyDitto]

Atheist, but I believe that people should believe what they want to believe and no one should tell them otherwise.

 

[RayOfHope]

God works in mysterious ways, what Daniel has yet to consider, which I did back when I was christian, is that maybe science is how God works things and that the people who wrote the bible described everything as best as they could, with their limited understanding of what they saw and what they were shown. I dunno, but I do know at this point arguing with such blindness is like throwing a pie at a wall and expecting a hole to appear. It won't happen.

Not going to add to the debate/argument/whatever all of that was, but I really like this paragraph.

 

[Cold~]

I believe in myself.

 

[Brackets]

Atheist, but I believe that people should believe what they want to believe and no one should tell them otherwise.

I agree with this up to a point, but letting everyone have their beliefs and views could be damaging, especially if they're hurtful to others e.g. being strongly opposed against gay marriage. Sometimes you've just got to be like 'no, society's moved on now'.

And make sure people realise religion should stay in church or religious studies classes - we can let creationists believe in that stuff but no way should we teach it in schools as science or as fact, just to be 'politically correct' and not offend them.

 

[Gnome]

simple

ball is life