Why Do People Care About Time Travelers?

[Maiana]

I'm still trying to figure out how non TTer's buying from TTer's is a bad thing, but that's just me.
Lowkey wanna jump in on the discussion since I'm trying to hoard bells* but...

 

[Zura]

If you are going to let the way other people play the game ruin your game experience that much where you barely trade with anyone then that's your choice. That doesn't give you the right to complain about it because you're CHOOSING this. It isn't being forced on you.

The only thing I'm complaining about is the lack of honesty. If you're selling TTd items/turnip prices then you should let people know

 

[axo]

I'm still trying to figure out how non TTer's buying from TTer's is a bad thing, but that's just me.
Lowkey wanna jump in on the discussion since I'm trying to hoard TBT but...

same, i've been getting in on all these controversial discussions trying to rack up TBT and get a username change, i think it's working

 

[Lellyna]

The only thing I'm complaining about is the lack of honesty. If you're selling TTd items/turnip prices then you should let people know

what about the people who buying items on eBay and don’t tell you about it

 

[Zura]

what about the people who buying items on eBay and don’t tell you about it

Same exact problem and I'm not going to support the dishonesty

 

[Larimar]

I'm still trying to figure out how non TTer's buying from TTer's is a bad thing, but that's just me.
Lowkey wanna jump in on the discussion since I'm trying to hoard bells* but...

As much as I wish we wouldnt have this conversation anymore, it's probably for the best to keep at least one thread on this active or pinned to avoid the same topic being made on a new thread, starting the discussion all over again x'D I swear we've all already said everything there is to be said like 3 Timetraveling threads ago. At least if theres one active then people wont feel like putting in their thoughts all over again.

 

[Maiana]

As much as I wish we wouldnt have this conversation anymore, it's probably for the best to keep at least one thread on this active or pinned to avoid the same topic being made on a new thread, starting the discussion all over again x'D I swear we've all already said everything there is to be said like 3 Timetraveling threads ago. At least if theres one active then people wont feel like putting in their thoughts all over again.

For sure. A few days ago I definitely saw a bunch, but they sometimes died overnight and the controversy would spring up again when someone creates another thread about it. I honestly thought it's good that we're having this conversation, but reading the replies can be draining loool - I think we all need to come together and realize that we all (should be) enjoying the game in our own way and let people play how they want to play. When you mind your own business, life is way less stressful.

 

[KnoxUK]

I'm not at all bothered by how others play their games, I'm bothered by the effect it has on the community they want to participate in.

It has effected the community in a odd way. It's strange that being against time traveling instantly labels a person as a gate keeper and that they a throwing a a tantrum. Which is not the case. People are just concerned for the spirit of the community and animal crossing series. You have players who like playing it long term and players who like to time travel and gain the maximum amount of resources in the least amount of time.

Personally I don't like time travelers who do this, but it's up to them how they want to play the game, i just find it sad how people who do this can't take ownership of the social stigma surrounding their actions without blaming something else or coming up with a petty justification. That's what disappoints me the most of the situation.

 

[thelonewanderer]

I respect that's your personal preference so I won't try to change your mind, but if you don't mind me asking... what difference does it make? :O If you're going out of your way to get an item from someone else that you can't get yourself, you're already at the step of doing so. Why does it matter if the item is from a TTer?

I 100% understand not wanting items that are hacked or otherwise, but items received sooner from TTing are nowhere on that level and put your game at no risk

Does everything have to do with risk, it about core principle.

 

[Larimar]

For sure. A few days ago I definitely saw a bunch, but they sometimes died overnight and the controversy would spring up again when someone creates another thread about it. I honestly thought it's good that we're having this conversation, but reading the replies can be draining loool - I think we all need to come together and realize that we all (should be) enjoying the game in our own way and let people play how they want to play. When you mind your own business, life is way less stressful.

Agreed!! :> I understand the passion and spirit people have for this game, and as dismissive as this sounds, it really is just a game. A decorative life-sim at that. And even if playing with other people is a big deal to the experience, It's plenty easy to find people online with common ground to play with if you dont want to interact with certain other people!! tI's so easy to simply curate your own experience, there's no need to attack others for how they play and experience the game with others. They literally cannot affect you or your game if you simply choose to not interact with them.

And even if it's the economy people are worried about, once again, theres plenty of groups popping up (or even start your own) that like to share with the community and each other with as little cost and hang-ups as possible.

 

[Corrie]

Instead of fighting with each other, we should be all teaming up against the real "hackers" and "cheaters": the people who hack the game and use duping. They're the real problem here. I think we're all getting side tracked.

 

[DinoTown]

My own largest problem is with those TTers who go "This game is terrible, I've finished everything already, there's nothing to do".
This game is not designed to be TT'd through. Nintendo is releasing content in patches, and to time travel you need to change the Switch settings, not the game settings.
I have absolutely no problem with people who want to time travel - it's their game, they can play it how they want, even if that way is not how the game was designed to be.
It becomes a problem when those people turn around and start trying to drag down the game for being "terrible" because they've hit a slow point, because they played the game in a way that isn't meant to happen.
Play how you want, just understand that the game doesn't cater to your playstyle. Don't try and drag the game down because of your choice to TT.
(Of course this doesn't apply to all TTers)

 

[axo]

My own largest problem is with those TTers who go "This game is terrible, I've finished everything already, there's nothing to do".
This game is not designed to be TT'd through. Nintendo is releasing content in patches, and to time travel you need to change the Switch settings, not the game settings.
I have absolutely no problem with people who want to time travel - it's their game, they can play it how they want, even if that way is not how the game was designed to be.
It becomes a problem when those people turn around and start trying to drag down the game for being "terrible" because they've hit a slow point, because they played the game in a way that isn't meant to happen.
Play how you want, just understand that the game doesn't cater to your playstyle. Don't try and drag the game down because of your choice to TT.
(Of course this doesn't apply to all TTers)

i think that's fair, but it's not like TTing isn't built right into the game. i think the game was designed to be played however you want to play it, as long as that way brings you enjoyment. I do agree that it's a little tiring to hear "this game is unfinished" or "this game is boring" from people who TTd through everything, but if that's the way they want to play, that's fine by me. (though it doesn't sound like TTing didn't bring them any joy)

 

[Marte]

The only reason why time traveling bugged me was at the very start when everyone had just gotten the game. I felt like I had to pretty much stay away from the forum and other ac related places because I would get spoilers right off the bat. But honestly I can’t be mad about that, because those who posted spoilers was probably just as hyped and happy about the game as I was, and probably didn’t think about what the posts contained.
So the only downside was that I wasn’t able to talk as much about the game on forums etc. and share my excitement as much unless I wanted spoilers like the upgraded shop, the museum as so on.

But now that we are one month into the game and the updates are happening regularly I don’t mind it anymore (unless I see a spoiler for may and june, pls don’t lol).

Long story short - play as you want, but please be considerate when posting stuff that can contain stuff that you know wont appear for many of us as fast (like the wedding event stuff).

But do understand thatI don’t look down on TTers (I tt-ed like crazy in NL). You are all awesome!

 

[thelonewanderer]

i think that's fair, but it's not like TTing isn't built right into the game. i think the game was designed to be played however you want to play it, as long as that way brings you enjoyment. I do agree that it's a little tiring to hear "this game is unfinished" or "this game is boring" from people who TTd through everything, but if that's the way they want to play, that's fine by me. (though it doesn't sound like TTing didn't bring them any joy)

TT isn't build into the game. You can't TT in game, you have to close the game and then TT. So please don't give false reason.

 

[axo]

TT isn't build into the game. You can't TT in game, you have to close the game and then TT. So please don't give false reason.

sorry, i should've been more clear. in previous games, it was built directly in. actually i'm curious, since you called yourself an animal crossing veteran earlier, did you have a problem with TT in previous games when it literally was built into the game?

 

[kemdi]

TT isn't build into the game. You can't TT in game, you have to close the game and then TT. So please don't give false reason.

In all previous entries, TT options were literally built into the game. Its been streamlined to only sync with the system clock in the Switch version, not because of anything to do with TTers, but because unlike all the other entries, the save data is now tied to the system hardware itself, rather than on a cartridge or memory card.

 

[Thyl]

Wow, the first pages of this thread were hard to read. No matter how you disagree with each other, going personal level and being overall immature is a yikes. What seems to be the problem in this thread is that some people take arguments against TT way too personally. Even if someone does disagree with your opinion, it does not mean personal vendetta against you as an individual, and expressing dislike is not harassment or bullying. It is just an opinion, even if it did disagree with you. If bad language is used then it is a different situation of course, but it rarely gets fixed by answering bad manners with bad manners.

My stance on time travellers is that as long as they do not spoil stuff I do not have problems with them. The individuals who do spoil earn my well deserved dislike.

 

[cheezu]

My only issue is that I see some items that players obtain via TT (like the things mom sends you in the mail) sold for ridiculous amounts of bells or NMT's.
Also, some people are a bit dishonest about TT'ing and it's quite evident. I've seen people post photos of their perfect islands and houses after just a few days of playing the game and that was quite fishy to me.

Personally, I don't TT, because it ruins the fun for me and I know that I'd get bored and burned out if I played through 10 days worth of in-game days in just one day.
I also DO think that Nintendo are trying to discourage TT through those updates as you can no longer TT to certain events, etc., and obviously, it's not really an in-built game feature anymore.

 

[anne17]

I'm all for "play the game how you want & have the most fun." My issue with TTing is something like what Ian Malcolm said in Jurassic Park, "...it didn’t require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn’t earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don’t take any responsibility for it." That's fine in a closed system of play; may not be my cup of tea, but you do you.

However... when you bring it out into the community, it's:

1) an obvious advantage in any sort of trade situation
2) an obvious advantage in any sort of "I'm showing off what I've built, collected and accomplished" situation

Which are both fundamental aspects of the community. TTers can and do take advantage of non-TTers in the community. I don't think it's malicious at all, and maybe no one on either side of the equation are upset, but that imbalance is inherent, and ethically, it's a little shaky.

Aside from that, it's an obvious exploitation of technicalities that are not even part of the game, and the designers have openly stated they are opposed to it.

I would disagree because this *is* an option open to everyone, you might not like it, but anyone could time travel to even the score, it's not like they truly have an unfair advantage considering others *could* put themselves in the same situation, they just don't want to.