ScaryGhosts
stump maker
Sorry for ruining the game you bought by playing the game i bought.
Why Do People Care About Time Travelers?
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Krissi2197
wolf pack fanatic
The saying is like a moth to a flame my man lol
thelonewanderer
Senior Member
For some reason moth to a fly sound right at the moment. Do moth eat fly?
AppleBitterCrumble
TBT Hoarder
I TT and I've been a fan of the game since I was 5
I don't do it to "exploit the market" I do it because it's what personally makes me happy
I don't think it's okay to put people down for choosing how they play the game, calling people who obviously care about the game "not fans" is very rude. I respect your choice not to TT but there are better ways to handle things then shaming people who want to play the game, which they paid for, how they want.
peachesandicecream
Senior Member
one thing i would like to mention is how those who don’t time travel still use this site. there are groups of people who don’t time travel and they buy/trade with people and that’s totally fine, but for those who are extremely defensive and or agressive about tting - going by the logic that time traveling is cheating, isn't also buying stuff from other players cheating? because if you’re supposed to go at the pace of the game you should only be getting items that are available to YOU or your friends during that same day. this coincides with villagers, different fruits, and even hybrids or unavailable flowers. that means you’re gaining access to things that wouldn’t be available to you or those you play with because it was achieved in means of time traveling. i just find it hypocritical if you’re here buying stuff from those who time travel and then criticize them for what they were able to provide for you. the whole point of this site is to be a generous and kind community that helps each other. i time travel, (i think that’s obvious from this post lol) but i don’t care if other people don’t! i actually have a lot of respect for those who don’t and i find myself not time traveling for days at time. however, i can respect that other people play and view things differently that me, but when you’re being agressive or malicious it just shows that you’re too immature to accept that people can think differently than you. animal crossing has been my escape from what’s going on similar to a lot of people here. just because we skip a few days doesn’t mean we don’t care about the game. just enjoy the game how you play it and let others enjoy it as well!
thelonewanderer
Senior Member
You are correct. I don't trade with others unless it things I get can't on my own island. Other non-tters feel differently from me and so I agree with you.
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People keep making threads, that why.
Vintage Viola
So-called Representative🌸
“Would Time Travelers still be interested in AC if TT didn't exist?” I use to TT all the time, and never once did it kill my interest in the series. So yes, plenty still would, I’ve seen that. Nice job throwing everyone into a box.
This is the biggest example of gatekeeping I’ve seen in a while, you’ve got one hell of a superiority complex. You aren’t special just because “Lol I don’t change my date and time uwu”. Next.
This game is not a cult, and no one is required to have an undying devotion to it. Other people don't have as much free time to do it, other people don't want a long term project, for some people having a time lock is inconvenient and stressful. Oh, to be as holy and pious as thou.
thelonewanderer
Senior Member
I suggest browsing gamefaq board if you think this is "gatekeeping".
Vintage Viola
So-called Representative🌸
It is, just because it isn’t as bad as what others say doesn’t mean it’s not gatekeeping. You made a bunch of bold assumptions based off of nothing but how you think people should be playing the game, and even said people aren’t true fans if they do it. Gatekeeping.
I'm all for "play the game how you want & have the most fun." My issue with TTing is something like what Ian Malcolm said in Jurassic Park, "...it didn’t require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn’t earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don’t take any responsibility for it." That's fine in a closed system of play; may not be my cup of tea, but you do you.
However... when you bring it out into the community, it's:
1) an obvious advantage in any sort of trade situation
2) an obvious advantage in any sort of "I'm showing off what I've built, collected and accomplished" situation
Which are both fundamental aspects of the community. TTers can and do take advantage of non-TTers in the community. I don't think it's malicious at all, and maybe no one on either side of the equation are upset, but that imbalance is inherent, and ethically, it's a little shaky.
Aside from that, it's an obvious exploitation of technicalities that are not even part of the game, and the designers have openly stated they are opposed to it.
However... when you bring it out into the community, it's:
1) an obvious advantage in any sort of trade situation
2) an obvious advantage in any sort of "I'm showing off what I've built, collected and accomplished" situation
Which are both fundamental aspects of the community. TTers can and do take advantage of non-TTers in the community. I don't think it's malicious at all, and maybe no one on either side of the equation are upset, but that imbalance is inherent, and ethically, it's a little shaky.
Aside from that, it's an obvious exploitation of technicalities that are not even part of the game, and the designers have openly stated they are opposed to it.
thelonewanderer
Senior Member
Definition of Gatekeeping - Gatekeeping is the process through which information is filtered for dissemination, whether for publication, broadcasting, the Internet, or some other mode of communication. The academic theory of gatekeeping is founded in multiple fields of study, including communication studies, journalism, political science, and sociology.[1] It was originally focused on the mass media with its few-to-many dynamic but now gatekeeping theory also addresses face-to-face communication and the many-to-many dynamic inherent in the Internet.
Umm...what exactly is it I'm gatekeeping?
Vintage Viola
So-called Representative🌸
Gatekeeping defined in the sense of gaming - Gatekeeping is the act of attempting to control, and usually limit, general access to something. More or less, discouraging people from calling themselves gamers or implying they haven't done enough to be a gamer is gatekeeping.
So with that, you can answer your own question.
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There's no arguing with these people. There's never a right answer and especially when more then half of TBT TTs nowadays. They'll make you out to be a monster and there's no amount of arguing/explaining that will change that.
Can you specify what situations that TTers are "taking advantage" of non-TTers? What is it EXACTLY that TTers are going to take advantage of, exploiting or otherwise with non-TTers?
As someone mentioned before non-TTers that trade and buy on forums like this can have just as much of an advantage when it comes to collecting more items and diys than they would feasibly have with their playtime. If anything, quite a few non-TTers rely on TTers help with getting access to certain items they want.
-Apples-
Apple Imperialist
I have to say, the fact that some people are bothered by how others play their games is very worrisome. Unless if they are causing problems for everybody else (like hacking, vandalizing, or bullying), nobody should be allowed to care about how others play their games. You are allowed to choose who can trade with you and who cannot, but you shouldn’t be bothered by how others play their game. It’s just as bad as (or even worse than) to be militant against it to exploit features for your personal gain.
A lot of people like myself don't realize the other is a TTer. Selling things or turnips prices that you TTd for should be marked with a big ol stamp saying so. That way we know if we're buying quality instead of (whatever the cool kids are calling TTers nowadays)
This is why I barely buy online anymore. Never know what item has been TTed to obtain
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Sure but it can be hard to know what is TTed and what's not. I think TT sellers should be open about their unnatural "habbits" before they sell to unexpected people. It should be mandatory that all TTed items are marked as so
Time.
Pretty straightforward. Time is the currency of Animal Crossing. Time-traveling is literally fabricating that currency.
surely you don't really think this is what gatekeeping means... unless you're a communications major, normal people are not talking about this when they say gatekeeping. quite simply, gatekeeping (in terms of a fandom, which is what this is) is when you try set rules or guidelines that limit or exclude others from participating. you are gatekeeping. you're saying that those who don't play the same way as you are not playing, they are cheating.
