Why Do People Care About Time Travelers?

I understand your passion about the game, and agree with your points somewhat, but still feel like I want to respond to some of it. For the record, I TT a little bit but about 60% of the time play the game in real-time, so take that with whatever you'd like.


This is probably an issue from before most people got terraforming or their Nook's Cranny upgrades. Now that we're a month into the game, the only thing that separates TTers from non-TTers in this aspect is how many hours they've put into this game. I think that social media is toxic, perfectionism is a plague upon this generation of society, but that's not limited to animal crossing. How many Instagrammers have "perfect lives", that super expensive designer purse, or a gorgeous house? They have those things because that's all they show to the world. Yet behind the scenes, they could be body-shaming themselves, think they're worthless, or be in debt because they failed to budget correctly and threw their money into their lifestyle. My point here is that perfectionism, and by the same extent, the "perfect animal crossing town" doesn't exist, and is toxic. Sure, their town looks better than yours. But who cares, as long as you like yours? My town isn't "perfect". I'm still at a 3-star rating. I have parts of it that I like, and parts of it that I don't. Others, however, only have compliments. So honestly, stop comparing yourselves to whatever you're seeing on social media, you're doing yourself a disservice.


What spoilers are even in Animal Crossing? Seasons? Nook's Cranny getting an upgrade? Okay, I guess... but if you've played previous installments, it's not particularly difficult to guess that yes, seasonal items exist and that there would probably be seasonal DIYs (if the sakura/bunny day ones weren't enough to give it away, I don't know what is). While the items themselves, perhaps being unobtainable right now, I guess that's an issue, but personally it gives me something to look forward to. This is kind of a valid point though, but I don't think it's correct to attack TTers as being self-interested for that.


Not really, though TTers bring supply to meet the demand. It's simple economics at that point. Dreamies are an issue, but it's never been easy to get your perfect dreamies or your perfect 10 villagers. People paying 1000 NMT for Raymond need to be stopped, probably. And the fact that he's so ridiculously rare and popular is another issue. Though honestly, if your 10 dreamies also happen to be the 10 most popular characters, than of course they're going to be expensive. There's a limited supply of villagers moving out, and high demand.

TTing gives you an advantage, but it's not particularly a massive one. Ever sold turnips at any price higher than 500-600? Some of those people got lucky, yes, but a lot of them got lucky because they were time travelling.



I don't really see TTers complain about the game being boring. If anything, they did it to themselves and should at least be self-aware enough to admit that.
Complaining about moving buildings again is a completely fair criticism of the system. It costs 50,000 bells (even if you don't care about 50k, sure, whatever) and you can only move one building a day. Have your village planned out but have to move your buildings one by one? Place your house down wrong by a pixel and have to wait a day to do it over again? It's understandably frustrating. You can't move bridges or inclines (you have to delete them and remake them). If you decide you don't like the design on one of them, well, you have to destroy it and rebuild it again. With how simple placing furniture outside, moving trees, laying paths, and changing your river layout has made the town customization, it's surprising that moving houses and buildings be so timegated.



It's a different interpretation of how they perceive their game. You also seem to be unfairly lumping all TTers together. I don't think you're a troll (that term gets incorrectly overused all the time anyways), just think that you're coming off a bit overaggressive here, and I'd like to have a discussion about your views because I think that many of them are fair.



I think that's a great quality to have, compassion is super hard to come across these days. I also feel for the people who can't afford to pay ridiculous market prices on some of their dreamies, so I plan to give some of my more popular villagers away for a relatively low price when they ping me to move out.

I just disagree with your blanket statements against TTers ruining the community and ruining the economy. Yes, some of them complain. I have no problem imagining that some TTers take advantage of others by charging outrageous amounts for some things (the fact that people are willing to pay that much contributes just as much to the problem).


I haven't read all the rest of this thread, but there's angry/mean people all over the internet, regardless of TTer/non-TTer/political affiliation/gender/etc.



This is more of a town-planner vs non-town-planner complaint lol. To accomodate more buildings, I have to tear down displays, move villager houses around (see above for why I think moving villager houses gets frustrating), and rearrange a large portion of my town. I planned my town around just two player houses, 10 villager houses, resident services, museum, able sisters, and nooks. Adding another building to that mix is a bit of a pain.

I love a civil discussion so thank you for that.

The 3 points I added don't apply to me, it apply to other people. Only the #4 point apply to me. I don't know if you read what I wrote prior to that or it was cut or something.

In general I don't have problem with folks on here (unless its on the trading board) even those who call me a troll (twice this week) since I don't take things to heart. But if you browse gamefaq, reddit, youtube, and other forums, you will see that TTers constantly make multiple thread a day complaining about literally everything! They will make thread asking why people think TT is cheating and will make every excuses in the book on why its not.

And you can't really avoid them, I mean even in the official Nintendo direct for the newest update, so many comments involve TTers complaining about everything. Let me put a real life example of an ex-friend I used to have. So basically we would be playing the same game, and then he would complain and cuss out loud why the game is hard to figure out. I ask him did he read the instruction manual that came with the game? He tell me "why would I do that, that just stupid, I learn on my own". So why on earth are you complaining them?

That guy drove me nuts for years until I finally had it lol. That what TTers who complain are akin to. Complain that the game lack content and is boring but its their own fault for time traveling. That the side-effect of time traveling.

Also I try not to lump all TTers together but I have explain multiple times on literally every TT thread on here that I do not have a problem with all TTers.

I don't know if I answer all your questions?
 
ive said plenty on these threads, so I'm gonna say one last thing: I dont understand when people say "Time Travelers are ruining the fun for themselves". Maybe they dont think it's fun to play one day at a time, and thus they find it MORE fun to Time Travel. Stop pushing these assumptions onto them.

As someone who TT'd in New Leaf but barely TT in New Horizons: Playing daily in NL was incredibly boring. I had hardly anyone to play with and I would very easily forget to play most days if I did play daily, killing my motivation to keep playing entirely. TTing in NL was more fun for me and I would not have gotten the full experience without it. But now that NH has a different set-up and I have plenty of people to interact with, I now find it more fun and manageable to play daily. But that doesnt mean I've "seen the light" and swore off TTing. If I ever pick up NL again, I will 100%, go back to my classic way of playing.

So yeah, no need for this "but they're robbing themselves of the TRUE experience!", it's, to be frank, condescending. You probably mean well, but it's still completely dismissing TTers experiences.

Edit: also now that I think I've finally said everything I could possibly say on this topic, I'm personally not gonna respond to topics like this anymore. Nothing against the OPs of these threads since the forums go fast, but this same conversation keeps happening and I'd like to see some other topics to talk about xD

Edit 2: people are finding this and reacting to this and are going to go to the latest pages to see i came back to this thread because I'm boo boo the fool. I wont be engaging in future separate threads tho
 
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Why'd you make another thread?

Because trolls on the forum derailed the topic and started debating about pineapple on pizza which caused mods to close the thread because people weren't on topic. I stated this in the original post
 
I personally am a time traveler myself, (I normally do it in small amounts )though I always get scared to let people know because of this exact reason. Why others think its cheating I am not sure. As long as TT are not spoiling anything for other players personality I think it's fine. Cheating to me is hacking items within the game somehow or generating millions of bells by other sources. Sometimes the day gets away from me and I don't like playing when it's nighttime in my town. (I know its a quirk of mine.) So sometimes I like to start the next day , do things and then just it back. =(
 
I said in general, not every TTers mistreat their animal like you for example. But going by all the replies on this post so far, a lot of TTers don't care. I mean one of the post even mention laughing at non-tters on twitter for attacking a TTers cause the TTers was abusing his villagers.

Just go on reddit, gamefaq, and youtube and see how nasty TTers are to their villager. Multiple people per day on various site post pictures of them digging hole, pitfall seed so that their villagers can't leave the house. Doing all sort of things to their "pixel".

I just don't see that with non-tters (I'm sure there are) but in general I just don't see it.

You're talking about JVGSJeff? The dude maintains 7 towns throughout the whole series. Could you do the same?
 
ive said plenty on these threads, so I'm gonna say one last thing: I dont understand when people say "Time Travelers are ruining the fun for themselves". Maybe they dont think it's fun to play one day at a time, and thus they find it MORE fun to Time Travel. Stop pushing these assumptions onto them.

As someone who TT'd in New Leaf but barely TT in New Horizons: Playing daily in NL was incredibly boring. I had hardly anyone to play with and I would very easily forget to play most days if I did play daily, killing my motivation to keep playing entirely. TTing in NL was more fun for me and I would not have gotten the full experience without it. But now that NH has a different set-up and I have plenty of people to interact with, I now find it more fun and manageable to play daily. But that doesnt mean I've "seen the light" and swore off TTing. If I ever pick up NL again, I will 100%, go back to my classic way of playing.

So yeah, no need for this "but they're robbing themselves of the TRUE experience!", it's, to be frank, condescending. You probably mean well, but you're still comparing your experience to other peoples' experiences. Your experience isn't universal.
ive said plenty on these threads, so I'm gonna say one last thing: I dont understand when people say "Time Travelers are ruining the fun for themselves". Maybe they dont think it's fun to play one day at a time, and thus they find it MORE fun to Time Travel. Stop pushing these assumptions onto them.

As someone who TT'd in New Leaf but barely TT in New Horizons: Playing daily in NL was incredibly boring. I had hardly anyone to play with and I would very easily forget to play most days if I did play daily, killing my motivation to keep playing entirely. TTing in NL was more fun for me and I would not have gotten the full experience without it. But now that NH has a different set-up and I have plenty of people to interact with, I now find it more fun and manageable to play daily. But that doesnt mean I've "seen the light" and swore off TTing. If I ever pick up NL again, I will 100%, go back to my classic way of playing.

So yeah, no need for this "but they're robbing themselves of the TRUE experience!", it's, to be frank, condescending. You probably mean well, but you're still comparing your experience to other peoples' experiences. Your experience isn't universal.

I kind of agree with you believe it or not. Even though I'm strict on TTing, that not something I do. That akin to guilt-triping and emotional manipulation. I see a lot of non-tters on other site who do that and I don't agree with them at all.
 
Because trolls on the forum derailed the topic and started debating about pineapple on pizza which caused mods to close the thread because people weren't on topic. I stated this in the original post
I know that, just feel like we've had these discussions a lot lately. They never seem to end well.
 
I personally don't like the idea of time travelling as for me it's the equivalent of using an extra unlock code to get things faster, but I don't like the idea of shaming people. Time travelers made that choice because they don't care about slowly unlocking stuff, that strays from why I love the game, but it's no reason for any of us to dislike them just because they don't have the same opinions as us.

I do feel kinda sad whenever I see people who have time traveled showcasing how amazing they are for collecting unobtainable items. It's like I've been training day by day only to see someone who took a shortcut standing in front of me.

I do want to reinforce that as much as I have a distaste for it, it was their choice and I will never tell someone that what they've done is wrong because it's not fair for me to say that.
 
I don't care at all if people TT, it's their game and totally up to them. I occasionally time travel in New Horizons (although rarely), and I time traveled a TON in New Leaf. That said, I'm not really a fan of TT anymore.

I've chosen to mostly stop time traveling in NH because I found it took some of the enjoyment away from the series for me personally. My New Leaf town was completed within a few months, and it lost its charm for me after that. My first game was Wild World and I never time traveled, so now playing the game "organically" feels nostalgic and right for me. It feels so good to work hard for something, and practicing patience makes me appreciate my town more.

I do understand why some people in the community are so against others time traveling, even though I don't share this opinion. To me it is similar to someone working hard for their money/house/life/etc. and another person being handed those things. When this happens in real life, people tend to resent the individual who had these things handed to them because they can't fully understand the difficulty and time it takes to earn something the hard way. I think a lot of players see time travelers this way (yes, I know they still have to work for their perfect town, but it comes much easier and quicker).

Animal Crossing is a "real life" game in a lot of ways. We move out, have a mortgage, live on our own, pay off debt, buy things, decorate our house - things that are seen as pretty mundane irl. When someone skips all these steps (or fast-forwards) in real life, it's easy to feel irritated about it. I would say most people are annoyed by that. The same thing applies within the game and community. The game mimics real life, so of course people are frustrated when they see others skipping through the hard parts.

But like someone else said, if you paid $60 for a video game then you should be able to play however you prefer lol
 
You're talking about JVGSJeff? The dude maintains 7 towns throughout the whole series. Could you do the same?
You're talking about JVGSJeff? The dude maintains 7 towns throughout the whole series. Could you do the same?

Who? I don't care for streamer or youtuber. I think you are confusing me with someone else.
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Also why some TTers are annoying

 
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I’m just kinda tired of people saying EVERY TTer is bad. It puts a bad rep on people who do TT for good reasons. Do you know how many people ran away from this thread because they saw a bit of hostile words, or are scared to speak their opinion (TTer or not) because they didn’t want to be in drama? I think it’s sad that some people can’t have a nice conversation (I am NOT pointing out anyone here, I’m talking about everything I’ve seen) and resort to insults or passive aggressive responses. As a TTer, I am upset that some people in the community are being rude on purpose, but that is every community. Games like Undertale, CSGO, and R6 are marked with bad fans because of the small percent of toxic people, and animal crossing is no different. TTing is not always bad, I have done it to give people their dreamies, help my cousin get more items from my shop, and help build my bridges so I don’t have to carry around the pole. Is some of the TTing I done selfish? Yes. Did I hurt anyone while doing this. No.
 
i think time travel and non time travel are just two different ways of play. (well, you can be hardcore without TTing if you're a purist, but...)
i don't feel like either one is cheating, really... if we were talking about MMORPGs, the time traveller would be the one who beats all the content on the first day, participates in world first races, and so on. there are pros and cons to both ways of play.
i do enjoy that i DON'T need to time travel to keep up with the other TTers ... unless, i guess, i want my town to be toured already or something... but again, comparing it to MMORPGs, i did NOT have to rush through the story just to play content with my friends who did. i can play with TTers no problem. we can trade, hang out, etc, like anyone else. this is why TT in animal crossing doesn't really bother me at all. especially with the officially timed events now that DO rely on real time

on another note, being able to TT makes the game more relaxed for me, ironically. i tried catching the stringfish in the 10 days we got to do it and didnt manage to get it, but on the last day i just thought to myself "no point in stressing out over this, i can just TT if i really want the fish." i don't feel pressured to plan out all my construction projects, "ohh noo if i want all of this built i need to build the bridge today and then the incline ..." i just build whenever i feel like it and can timeskip if i want to build a lot in one day. it gives control to the player, which DOES remove need for planning etc but it just makes it less stressful to me. i think if TT wasn't a thing the various ways this game timegates you would become quite problematic to a lot of people who can enjoy the game now. (not to talk about mmos again but...timegating is more toxic there because of subscription money but nintendo online is a subscription too! and SOOOO many people complain about it all the time and stop playing the game because of it)

TTing is not always bad, I have done it to give people their dreamies, help my cousin get more items from my shop, and help build my bridges so I don’t have to carry around the pole.

and dont forget all the goodies we get from tters lol

oh and one last edit, i personally barely TTd in new horizons, i constantly felt like i wanted to, especially in the tutorial, but then i had so many (non animal crossing) things to do during the day that i didn't even get time to do any more than what the game dripfeeds you, maybe its cos im an adult now lmao. but if it released during a "quieter" time for me i wouldve definitely ttd because i like to play hardcore
 
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I TT a bunch, but it is more of my own curiosity regarding fish/bugs, and general season stuff. And I usually sleep until ~3 or 4 p.m. (my physical...condition makes me sleep long, even if I go to bed early), so I kinda have to TT back to experience the game in the day.


Meanwhile, I try to avoid giving spoilers whenever possible, and I don’t get the point of using NMTs for ‘currency’. (PM me if you get it, to avoid the thread derailing)

I’m going to not jump into the debate above me, because I don’t care AT ALL whether or not they TT...
 
I TT a bunch, but it is more of my own curiosity regarding fish/bugs, and general season stuff. And I usually sleep until ~3 or 4 p.m. (my physical...condition makes me sleep long, even if I go to bed early), so I kinda have to TT back to experience the game in the day.


Meanwhile, I try to avoid giving spoilers whenever possible, and I don’t get the point of using NMTs for ‘currency’. (PM me if you get it, to avoid the thread derailing)

I’m going to not jump into the debate above me, because I don’t care AT ALL whether or not they TT...

I mean people who TT are not going to care if other TT.....that kind of defeat the point otherwise.
 
I mean to say, is that even if I don’t TT I wouldn’t care. This is the type of game that you can play as you want. No one else should be able to dictate that, for any reason.
 
It will be hard to convince people to change their minds, but there shouldn't be an issue, the economy here is bloated thanks to the dupe glitch, in my opinion TT had little to no effects.

And also thanks to TT, people are getting villagers and other items for their islands if they decide to trade.
 
I've been playing AC since 2002 and have played every game in the series (except HHD). i've done full play throughs of Gamecube AC and Wild World with 0 TT. I've done City Folk and New Leaf with TT, and had sooo much more fun. It's actually crazy how many new people who have never even played AC before feel they are entitled to an opinion that TT'ing is cheating. Play the game how you want. Most of the people complaining about others TT'ing are going to stop playing before summer anyway, and move back to fortnite, or league, or valorant, or any of the other popular games. "Spoilers" for people who have played the series since the beginning I can totally see, but in general I would say a lot of us already know what is likely to come. Seasonal events, and seasonal sets, as well as villagers that have been around forever. I feel the vast majority of people who hate TT'ers and claim it's because of spoilers, or whatever, are only going to experience 30% of the game anyway, before they move on to the next popular game.

Things that do bother me in this game though, are people who dupe glitched their way in the beginning, and now think they are special having 200 Royal Crowns, or such.

In short: Who cares?
 
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