What gender are you?

[Leela]

It's a lack of sexual attraction. The scale doesn't apply to us, no, but it's important to remember asexuals exist.

This has reminded me of when I won your rainbow alpine set giveaway (the sexuality guessing one). I'm asexual too

Is there a place to talk about sexuality or anything? (I'm vaguely aware of a sexuality support group, I think?) because I don't want to derail the thread too much but sexuality is interesting to talk about... maturely. Unless sexuality is included as part of a person's gender. It might be, looking at the genderbread chart. I really don't know.

Also, thanks for defining the terms in the poll, Moddie.

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If you don't know what it "means" to feel like your assigned gender, then congratulations: you are cis! haha

Honestly, it's kind of a luxury (not the word I'm looking for but I just woke up, gimme a break here) to be 100% content with the gender other people assign you at birth. Feeling like it doesn't fit you, and trying to explain that to the people around you, is an incredible struggle. Being confused makes sense, because if you always feel like "you" and have no qualms with said assigned gender, it can totally throw you for a loop to hear other people say that they don't "feel" like [insert gender identity here] - so I'm happy y'all are asking questions instead of being rude arseholes and I just wanted to say that.

I'm really not in the right headspace to tackle any of these questions myself - it took me like twenty minutes to write that paragraph (I'm so tired, send help, ughhh) but yeah. Personally extending a big ol' fashioned "thank you!" to those of you who are trying to keep this civil.

It's nice to talk about it maturely I ran away from the other thread quickly because it descended it arguing. I don't think I consider gender all that much because I'm cisgender, so people just assume I identify as female and it causes no problems with me.

 

[Tao]

This.
And declaring that you "don't understand" something doesn't change the fact that it's real. It shows you'd rather be dismissive than informed.

No, declaring that you "don't understand something" just means that you "don't understand something".

It doesn't mean you're not willing to learn about it at all.

i wasn't saying that genderfluids don't exist or anything. But i was just saying what is feeling like a girl/boy supposed to even feel like?

Just, this.

I'm a man and I'm not even sure what that's supposed to feel like. I just am. How am I supposed to understand a genderfluid person swapping between genders all the time if I don't even know what the one gender that I am is supposed to feel like?


I just get up in the morning and feel 'like me', not like 'I need to bro out and open some pickle jars' or whatever it is as a man I'm supposed to feel like (I guess you're 'supposed' to feel something, otherwise how do you know you feel like that?)

 

[Aryxia]

This has reminded me of when I won your rainbow alpine set giveaway (the sexuality guessing one). I'm asexual too

Is there a place to talk about sexuality or anything? (I'm vaguely aware of a sexuality support group, I think?) because I don't want to derail the thread too much but sexuality is interesting to talk about... maturely. Unless sexuality is included as part of a person's gender. It might be, looking at the genderbread chart. I really don't know.

Also, thanks for defining the terms in the poll, Moddie.

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It's nice to talk about it maturely I ran away from the other thread quickly because it descended it arguing. I don't think I consider gender all that much because I'm cisgender, so people just assume I identify as female and it causes no problems with me.

There's an LGBTQA thread here, but it's kind of dead ^.^;;

 

[fup10k]

There's an LGBTQA thread here, but it's kind of dead ^.^;;

it's also not very supportive or open-minded
Tread carefully.

 

[Tap Dancer]

No, declaring that you "don't understand something" just means that you "don't understand something".

It doesn't mean you're not willing to learn about it at all.

Exactly. "I don't understand" and "Don't know; don't care" are two very different attitudes.

 

[Moddie]

This has reminded me of when I won your rainbow alpine set giveaway (the sexuality guessing one). I'm asexual too

Oh, I'd forgotten about that giveaway.
That was fun, I should really do another giveaway like that sometime.

Is there a place to talk about sexuality or anything? (I'm vaguely aware of a sexuality support group, I think?) because I don't want to derail the thread too much but sexuality is interesting to talk about... maturely. Unless sexuality is included as part of a person's gender. It might be, looking at the genderbread chart. I really don't know.

Oh, I agree sexuality is an interesting topic. Gender and sexuality are different, but they always come up when topics like this arise. I think the chart brings it up because a lot of people think they're strongly linked. Also there is a thread like you've mentioned but as other people have said it's sadly dead. Or at least it was when I last checked it out.

 

[Ghost Soda]

You know, kinda wish you could re vote...

it's also not very supportive or open-minded
Tread carefully.

I've been there plenty of times and they're very supportive. Don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Brackets]

No, declaring that you "don't understand something" just means that you "don't understand something".

It doesn't mean you're not willing to learn about it at all.

This - surely saying you don't understand and questioning it shows you're interested in learning?

No, I don't understand how some people can feel male/female/both. But I'm at least trying to understand. And I would never say someone's identity is invalid because I don't understand it.

the only thing that bothers me is when people go the whole way and say that biological sex is just a label assigned to you at birth. No, I'm sorry, but biological sex is a thing, and none of us would be here if it wasn't. There is HUGE differences between the sexes biologically, and as a medical student knowing the sex of a person is extremely important.

 

[Shimmer]

I'm a female!

 

[oath2order]

I've read a few comments here stating confusion with a few of the terms and such.
I'll try and explain as simply as possible and I thought I'd share one of my favourite charts. It think it's clear and it helps a lot of people. The main thing to remember is that gender is a spectrum. Not just male and female.
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Bigender - Identifying as two genders, normally male and female. You could identify as both at the same time and/or you can go back and forth between them.

Androgynous - Between male and female, or entirely genderless

Genderfluid - Switches between genders.

Non-binary - Umbrella term for those who's gender is neither male or female.

(I identify as non-binary. If I have gotten the definition of any of these wrong - please correct me.)
Most of these definitions overlap, but I wanted to include a lot as many labels as possible as many people will identify with a particular term as oppose to a general, less specific one.

Wait

By your definition of "bigender", you state that "you can go back and forth between them".

That's the very definition of genderfluid though??? It's confusing, it seems like you could easily condense some of these labels.

im sorry i still get confused there's like 50 million labels and I can't remember them all

 

[Moddie]

Wait

By your definition of "bigender", you state that "you can go back and forth between them".

That's the very definition of genderfluid though??? It's confusing, it seems like you could easily condense some of these labels.

Sorry to be confusing. The terms are very similar. Bigender comes from bi meaning two, as in someone who identifies as bigender could switch between two genders. Where as someone who is genderfluid could switch between more than that.

 

[Tao]

Sorry to be confusing. The terms are very similar. Bigender comes from bi meaning two, as in someone who identifies as bigender could switch between two genders. Where as someone who is genderfluid could switch between more than that.

More than that being? Like...A third gender aside from male and female?


Is this where all the people who identify as a cat or something come into it, or is that a different thing entirely?

 

[Aryxia]

More than that being? Like...A third gender aside from male and female?


Is this where all the people who identify as a cat or something come into it, or is that a different thing entirely?

That would be different. I think it's called otherkin. The main other gender I can think of is "non-binary," meaning neither male nor female, but I'm sure there are others that I'm unaware of :x

 

[Moddie]

More than that being? Like...A third gender aside from male and female?


Is this where all the people who identify as a cat or something come into it, or is that a different thing entirely?

Yes, I'm talking about genders aside from male and female. Third gender is actually the correct term for many people. It's a term many societies use for people who's gender is neither man nor woman. But many cultures believe there to be even more than three genders. It's a little complicated, but very interesting if you've the time to research further.

You're thinking of otherkin, which is not linked to gender. I'm not otherkin and I don't know much about it, but as I understand it, it's a spiritual identity.

 

[Yoshisaur]

I've read a few comments here stating confusion with a few of the terms and such.
I'll try and explain as simply as possible and I thought I'd share one of my favourite charts. It think it's clear and it helps a lot of people. The main thing to remember is that gender is a spectrum. Not just male and female.
View attachment 86539
[If image is difficult to see here's a link to a larger image.]

Bigender - Identifying as two genders, normally male and female. You could identify as both at the same time and/or you can go back and forth between them.

Androgynous - Between male and female, or entirely genderless

Genderfluid - Switches between genders.

Non-binary - Umbrella term for those who's gender is neither male or female.

(I identify as non-binary. If I have gotten the definition of any of these wrong - please correct me.)
Most of these definitions overlap, but I wanted to include a lot as many labels as possible as many people will identify with a particular term as oppose to a general, less specific one.

So if someone is both genders, as in they have the reproductive organs of both genders, are they still bi-gender? Are people who identify as both on a non-physical level also considered bi-gender? People who were both physically used to be called hermaphrodites but is that term offensive now, I notice it doesn't get used a lot, or does it simply have a different name for it?
I don't know a lot about this stuff and would like to learn.

 

[Mercedes]

I'm so ****ing confused.
What happend to male female shemale and Trans.
Omg so annoying can you just pick one of the 4 and get over it.
My gender is robot.
There are like 20 genders here. Why ;_; I'm sooo lost

 

[Zane]

So if someone is both genders, as in they have the reproductive organs of both genders, are they still bi-gender? Are people who identify as both on a non-physical level also considered bi-gender? People who were both physically used to be called hermaphrodites but is that term offensive now, I notice it doesn't get used a lot, or does it simply have a different name for it?
I don't know a lot about this stuff and would like to learn.

That might be intersex you're thinking of. A quick google definition gives me this since I'm too lazy to type my own stuff out:
"Intersex, in humans and other animals, is a variation in sex characteristics including chromosomes, gonads, or genitals that do not allow an individual to be distinctly identified as male or female."
but there's definitely more to the topic u can look up.

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I'm so ****ing confused.
What happend to male female shemale and Trans.
Omg so annoying can you just pick one of the 4 and get over it.
My gender is robot.
There are like 20 genders here. Why ;_; I'm sooo lost

"shemale" isn't a gender it's a transmisogynist slur

 

[Yoshisaur]

I'm so ****ing confused.
What happend to male female shemale and Trans.
Omg so annoying can you just pick one of the 4 and get over it.
My gender is robot.
There are like 20 genders here. Why ;_; I'm sooo lost

I'm pretty confused too. I am assuming (sorry if wrong) trans is just if you identify as the gender opposite of your sex. Which at that point people will often go through treatment to change if they can. So a trans person would be able to answer this question as male or female depending on what they identify as. The others are more complicated so they have a different classification. Shemale however, wouldn't that be the same as trans? idk

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That might be intersex you're thinking of. A quick google definition gives me this since I'm too lazy to type my own stuff out:
"Intersex, in humans and other animals, is a variation in sex characteristics including chromosomes, gonads, or genitals that do not allow an individual to be distinctly identified as male or female."
but there's definitely more to the topic u can look up.

Thanks! It all makes sense now, I think.

 

[Mercedes]

I'm pretty confused too. I am assuming (sorry if wrong) trans is just if you identify as the gender opposite of your sex. Which at that point people will often go through treatment to change if they can. So a trans person would be able to answer this question as male or female depending on what they identify as. The others are more complicated so they have a different classification. Shemale however, wouldn't that be the same as trans? idk

No because a shemale has boobies and boy parts.
Also only some Trans ppl go through treatment, but yeah that's mostly the case.

 

[lithiumlatte]

Props to all the people who have shown an interest in learning and have asked questions about what they don't yet understand <3
It's so great to see.

I'm so ****ing confused.
What happend to male female shemale and Trans.
Omg so annoying can you just pick one of the 4 and get over it.
My gender is robot.
There are like 20 genders here. Why ;_; I'm sooo lost

Can you please keep your transphobic comments out of this thread, it's mostly been going really well so far.